How About a Vote...Editing or No Editing?

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How About a Vote...Editing or No Editing?

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JOH

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For those in the V-Wager Hockey Contest..Should editing be allowed?
 

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Originally, I think it was allowed so as to eliminate double or triple posting. Then the grader would only have to look at one post for each contestant instead of one post at 7, one at 7:30 and one at 10.

Anyone caught changing picks after the conclusion of games should be expelled from the contest immediately. I'm sure there are people that notice. I mean, Hell, even I'm starting to notice patterns of wagering with certain posters as are others.
 

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My problem wtih allowing editting is that it is too easy to cheat by waiting til the last minute to post, watching first 5 minutes of game to see if any goals are scored, then editting pick. Since it doesn't show a pick as editted in this 5 to 8 minute window, it is much too easy to cheat.
 

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You can't ask the friendly bookie to hand back that $110 you just placed on San Jose and you are prompted with a password on-line. You wouldn't make a mistake there, so why here.

I vote No.
 

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Of course I agree with you boys about the editing and changing your picks. But did you guys know that anyone can post their picks at 7:05 pm, and they literally have till 7:12 pm to change their picks without the edit thing showing, as they have a little over 7 minutes here at rx before the edit shows. So anyone here can wait till the score is 3-0,3 minutes in, and change it to the team that is up, and the over.. But then again, it's not like you are stealing money here, it's only a damn contest, and if you are going to pull this over a contest and take a chance at getting caught, then you are nuts.

Either we have someone watching the plays all the time to make sure no one changes them.. OR

We just have a new rule that your plays must be put in by 7pm, and not 7:05. This way, we are safe. And for 9:05 games, 9pm latest, or that game don't count, and so forth for 10:35 pm games, being in at 10pm..

I don't care what we do, but lets just have a fixed rule..
 

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If the words: This message was edited by... show up at the bottom of a post, the plays should be 'no action.' You're talking about 8 minutes or so. IMO
 

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It's too bad we have to resort to a no edit rule or a cutoff time to account for any edits. Is there no way to have ANY edit show up and a time stamp on it? Otherwise the 5 minute cutoff is the only way to go.
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Gamblor,

You should word it better when you say NO EDITING.. People can still pull a fast one. The rule should state that if you edit your picks before any of your games have started, it will be graded as NO ACTION..

BUT...

What stops someone from editing their games at 9 pm when all their games are taking a beating? This way, if they edit them, they lose nothing, rather than 3 or more units. The other part of that NO EDITING rule should be, if it is edited before 7pm, NO ACTION.. If they edit after any of their games begin, you get penalized 5 units, ok?

I am sure no one will do this, but just in case, at least now they can't say that you said it's only NO ACTION if you edit it.
 

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SG, you have a point there.

Can I get some more input from the rest of the players? I just want a way to deal with edited posts that we can all agree on.

On Tues. Oct 28 there are two posts that were edited before game time. How do I grade them? I think I should grade them normally until we come up with hard and fast rules. Then I will start a new topic clarifying the rules and we can go from there. Help!
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I have to agree with sick g. If the edit message shows for any post made before the first game of the day or night, all plays should be 'no action'. If the post was made AFTER the first game of the day and THEN is edited, the poster should be penalized... 5 units might be a little harsh though... supposing, in the extreme cases where he may have only made one dog play for the day or then again may have played 3 huge favorites, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and go with a happy medium - say 3 units or 330 points. As far as last night's posts, I would stay consistent... however way you treated previous edits going into last night would be the fairest course of action in my view.
 

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Thanks Jack, I think that is the way to go. I'll post a "Rules" thread shortly.
 

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Personally, I don't see what the problem is with editting a post as long as NO GAMES have started. Why is this a problem? I would suggest editting is permitted as long as the editted post is timestamped before the first game of the night begins.

As far as punishment for editting after this time, I would lean toward a harsher punishment. Someone who is losing with 3 heavy favorites would have nothing to lose by editting his post then. I'd stick with at LEAST a 5 unit penalty.
 

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Thank you MD, I was just pressing the reply button to say what you said, which I said earlier too. 3 unit penalty is no good boys. If I have tonight col -280, dal -300 and det -300 and it is midnight, and all have lost, why not just go edit the picks, and instead of 8.8 units i lose, I ONLY lose 3 units. Wouldn't it be silly for everyone not to do this? The player would save 5.8 units. Just leave the standard 5 unit penalty. And if he does it more than once, he is taking shots and should be banned from the contest.
 

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Heres a better idea - the penalty should be for the amount of the worst 3 possible choices for the night in question. For example, if the results from the previous night had only two favorites losing that were both at -220 and a -140 under losing, then the past post editter would get a penalty of -580. That way there would never be an advantage to editting after the first game faceoff, and the penalty would fit the "crime".

The only other problem is the editter that tries to take a shot by editting in the 5 to 8 minute window. My suggestion here is to make the deadline 5 minutes before gametime or else they are NO ACTION. I really don't see another way to prevent this type of shot taking from happening.
 

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