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House Leaders Pull Bet on Internet Gambling Vote
By Roy Mark

WASHINGTON -- For the time being, proponents of a bill to prohibit U.S.-based banks and credit card companies from making payments to Internet gambling sites have folded their hand in a parliamentary attempt to trump amendments to the legislation that have slowed the movement to curb online gambling.

As originally introduced by Rep. Jim Leach (R.-Iowa), the Unlawful Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Act (H.R. 21), creates a new crime of accepting financial instruments, such as credit cards or electronic fund transfers, for debts incurred in Internet gambling.

The legislation also created notable exemptions for state-run lotteries and horse and dog track operators. Leach's bill is strongly supported by the White House, family groups, sports leagues and law enforcement agencies.

On May 15, however, the bill was amended, 16-15, by the House Judiciary Committee to remove those exemptions from the bill. Rep. Chris Cannon (R.-Utah) said he offered the amendment because he feared the exemptions could lead to legalized gambling in his home state and the fact he didn't want to get in the business of regulating credit card companies.

By almost all accounts, the amendment doomed the bill from House passage. Undeterred, Rep. Spencer Bachus (R.-Ala.) introduced the Unlawful Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Act (H.R. 2143), which restored Leach's exemptions to state lotteries and racing venues.

By not including any criminal or civil penalties for violators of the act, the Bachus bill puts the legislation outside the jurisdiction of the House Judiciary Committee. On May 21, the Financial Services Committee approved the bill on a voice vote.

"The (Bachus) bill does the same thing as our legislation," a Leach spokesperson said Monday.

House leaders then chose to put the Bachus bill before the House instead of the amended Leach legislation. They then fast tracked the Bachus bill by scheduling it for a Tuesday vote under a suspension of the rules, which is normally reserved for non controversial legislation. When a bill is considered under the suspended rules, it can't be amended but requires a two-thirds majority to pass.

House sources told Internetnews.com that while the Bachus bill created no criminal or civil penalties for violators, House leaders hoped to get the toothless legislation through the House and then add penalties after the Senate passes it own version of the bill.

"It's remarkable that the exemptions are more important to the proponents than enforceable criminal penalties for violators," one source told Internetnews.com.

When word began to spread of the Tuesday vote, opposition quickly built within both the Republican and Democratic ranks. By late Monday, it became obvious to House leaders that the two-thirds vote required under the suspended rules wasn't there, and they scratched the vote.

It is estimated that more than $2 billion will be wagered through online sites this year alone.
 

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sportingbet sites alone processed over a billion last year so as usual the government are absolutely clueless.
 

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Well it's far from over...

Washington Post: "House staffers said they would try to work out their differences and bring the bill back for a vote, possibly as soon as Thursday."

Washington Post: "The bill was scheduled for a vote under a special process that prohibits any changes, but requires a two-thirds vote for approval. But it appeared unlikely to pass without the support of Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, who wants tougher criminal penalties, and House Democrats who oppose an outright ban on online gambling, House staffers said."

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We ALL need to keep the PRESSURE on these politicians ALL YEAR LONG that YOU oppose any ban on Online Gambling!

***If you state in your letter you DO NOT AGREE and OPPOSE the views of Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner and House Democrats who oppose an outright ban on online gambling.*** it might be the right kind of PRESSURE

Here is the site you need to go to to Tell your Representative and Senators to oppose H.R. 21 and S. 627, the so-called Unlawful Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Acts! Or any NEW bill that tries to ban Online Gambling. Fill out the form on this page to take action on this important issue (your privacy will be protected) http://www.profreedom.com/
 

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As far as most of the credit card companies are concerned, they have long ago stopped processing payments.

What few credit cards for US citizens work now?

I have 4 which will not!
 

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So many agendas...

Such good news for now...

The fact that Buzzsaw said that the bill passing was a lock, also has once again helped...

Fading Buzzsaw is like money in the bank!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oldmantime:
As far as most of the credit card companies are concerned, they have long ago stopped processing payments.

What few credit cards for US citizens work now?

I have 4 which will not!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bank One debit visa still going strong. I assume any real credit card issued by them would would work too.

I even got a call from their security department last week asking me if I was the one making all these purchases to "overseas gambling merchants". I said, "Yea", and that was it. No problem whatsoever. I proceeded to make a suicide $465 NETeller deposit.
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Obviously they must not care.
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House Cancels Vote on Internet Gambling

By Andy Sullivan
Reuters
Tuesday, June 3, 2003; 1:16 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers abruptly canceled a vote to block Internet gambling on Tuesday after it became clear the bill did not have enough support to pass the House of Representatives.

House leaders pulled the bill from consideration after two Republican committee chairmen and several prominent Democrats said they would vote against it for a variety of reasons.

The move underscores the difficulties lawmakers face as they try to shut down the offshore Web sites that are expected to take in roughly $2 billion from U.S. residents this year, while not interfering with legal gambling businesses such as lotteries and casinos regulated by the states.

Despite widespread support, attempts to outlaw Internet gambling have stumbled in Congress for years due to infighting among casinos, dog tracks, horse tracks and those who oppose gambling in general.

The bill pulled from consideration Tuesday would block credit-card payments to gambling Web sites, an approach that has found widespread support in Congress and been taken up voluntarily by many credit-card providers.

But squabbles between the House Judiciary and Financial Services committees resulted in three competing versions of the bill. After the Judiciary Committee took out language that would have exempted lawful casinos and state lotteries last month, the Financial Services committee passed another version that removed criminal penalties, a move which enabled the new bill to bypass Judiciary.

The bill was scheduled for a vote under a special process that prohibits any changes, but requires a two-thirds vote for approval. But it appeared unlikely to pass without the support of Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, who wants tougher criminal penalties, and House Democrats who oppose an outright ban on online gambling, House staffers said.

"There were a lot of people who had problems with it," said Judiciary Committee spokesman Jeff Lungren.

House Resources Committee Chairman Richard Pombo said in a letter on Monday that he could not support the bill because he was worried about the impact it could have on American Indian gambling operations.

House staffers said they would try to work out their differences and bring the bill back for a vote, possibly as soon as Thursday.
 

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