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Homeless Iraq vets showing up at shelters
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By Mark Benjamin
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
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Washington, DC, Dec. 7 (UPI) -- U.S. veterans from the war in Iraq are beginning to show up at homeless shelters around the country, and advocates fear they are the leading edge of a new generation of homeless vets not seen since the Vietnam era. "When we already have people from Iraq on the streets, my God," said Linda Boone, executive director of the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans. "I have talked to enough (shelters) to know we are getting them. It is happening and this nation is not prepared for that."

"I drove off in my truck. I packed my stuff. I lived out of my truck for a while," Seabees Petty Officer Luis Arellano, 34, said in a telephone interview from a homeless shelter near March Air Force Base in California run by U.S.VETS, the largest organization in the country dedicated to helping homeless veterans.

Arellano said he lived out of his truck on and off for three months after returning from Iraq in September 2003. "One day you have a home and the next day you are on the streets," he said.

In Iraq, shrapnel nearly severed his left thumb. He still has trouble moving it and shrapnel "still comes out once in a while," Arellano said. He is left handed.

Arellano said he felt pushed out of the military too quickly after getting back from Iraq without medical attention he needed for his hand -- and as he would later learn, his mind.

"It was more of a rush. They put us in a warehouse for a while. They treated us like cattle," Arellano said about how the military treated him on his return to the United States.

"It is all about numbers. Instead of getting quality care, they were trying to get everybody demobilized during a certain time frame. If you had a problem, they said, 'Let the (Department of Veterans Affairs) take care of it.'"

The Pentagon has acknowledged some early problems and delays in treating soldiers returning from Iraq but says the situation has been fixed.

A gunner's mate for 16 years, Arellano said he adjusted after serving in the first Gulf War. But after returning from Iraq, depression drove him to leave his job at the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. He got divorced.

He said that after being quickly pushed out of the military, he could not get help from the VA because of long delays.

"I felt, as well as others (that the military said) 'We can't take care of you on active duty.' We had to sign an agreement that we would follow up with the VA," said Arellano.

"When we got there, the VA was totally full. They said, 'We'll call you.' But I developed depression."

He left his job and wandered for three months, sometimes living in his truck.

Nearly 300,000 veterans are homeless on any given night, and almost half served during the Vietnam era, according to the Homeless Veterans coalition, a consortium of community-based homeless-veteran service providers. While some experts have questioned the degree to which mental trauma from combat causes homelessness, a large number of veterans live with the long-term effects of post-traumatic stress disorder and substance abuse, according to the coalition.

Some homeless-veteran advocates fear that similar combat experiences in Vietnam and Iraq mean that these first few homeless veterans from Iraq are the crest of a wave.

"This is what happened with the Vietnam vets. I went to Vietnam," said John Keaveney, chief operating officer of New Directions, a shelter and drug-and-alcohol treatment program for veterans in Los Angeles. That city has an estimated 27,000 homeless veterans, the largest such population in the nation. "It is like watching history being repeated," Keaveney said.

Data from the Department of Veterans Affairs shows that as of last July, nearly 28,000 veterans from Iraq sought health care from the VA. One out of every five was diagnosed with a mental disorder, according to the VA. An Army study in the New England Journal of Medicine in July showed that 17 percent of service members returning from Iraq met screening criteria for major depression, generalized anxiety disorder or PTSD.

Asked whether he might have PTSD, Arrellano, the Seabees petty officer who lived out of his truck, said: "I think I do, because I get nightmares. I still remember one of the guys who was killed." He said he gets $100 a month from the government for the wound to his hand.

Lance Cpl. James Claybon Brown Jr., 23, is staying at a shelter run by U.S.VETS in Los Angeles. He fought in Iraq for 6 months with Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 2nd Marines and later in Afghanistan with another unit. He said the fighting in Iraq was sometimes intense.

"We were pretty much all over the place," Brown said. "It was really heavy gunfire, supported by mortar and tanks, the whole nine (yards)."

Brown acknowledged the mental stress of war, particularly after Marines inadvertently killed civilians at road blocks. He thinks his belief in God helped him come home with a sound mind.

"We had a few situations where, I guess, people were trying to get out of the country. They would come right at us and they would not stop," Brown said. "We had to open fire on them. It was really tough. A lot of soldiers, like me, had trouble with that."

"That was the hardest part," Brown said. "Not only were there men, but there were women and children -- really little children. There would be babies with arms blown off. It was something hard to live with."

Brown said he got an honorable discharge with a good conduct medal from the Marines in July and went home to Dayton, Ohio. But he soon drifted west to California "pretty much to start over," he said.

Brown said his experience with the VA was positive, but he has struggled to find work and is staying with U.S.VETS to save money. He said he might go back to school.

Advocates said seeing homeless veterans from Iraq should cause alarm. Around one-fourth of all homeless Americans are veterans, and more than 75 percent of them have some sort of mental or substance abuse problem, often PTSD, according to the Homeless Veterans coalition.

More troubling, experts said, is that mental problems are emerging as a major casualty cluster, particularly from the war in Iraq where the enemy is basically everywhere and blends in with the civilian population, and death can come from any direction at any time.

Interviews and visits to homeless shelters around the Unites States show the number of homeless veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan so far is limited. Of the last 7,500 homeless veterans served by the VA, 50 had served in Iraq. Keaveney, from New Directions in West Los Angeles, said he is treating two homeless veterans from the Army's elite Ranger battalion at his location. U.S.VETS, the largest organization in the country dedicated to helping homeless veterans, found nine veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan in a quick survey of nine shelters. Others, like the Maryland Center for Veterans Education and Training in Baltimore, said they do not currently have any veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan in their 170 beds set aside for emergency or transitional housing.

Peter Dougherty, director of Homeless Veterans Programs at the VA, said services for veterans at risk of becoming homeless have improved exponentially since the Vietnam era. Over the past 30 years, the VA has expanded from 170 hospitals, adding 850 clinics and 206 veteran centers with an increasing emphasis on mental health. The VA also supports around 300 homeless veteran centers like the ones run by U.S.VETS, a partially non-profit organization.

"You probably have close to 10 times the access points for service than you did 30 years ago," Dougherty said. "We may be catching a lot of these folks who are coming back with mental illness or substance abuse" before they become homeless in the first place. Dougherty said the VA serves around 100,000 homeless veterans each year.

But Boone's group says that nearly 500,000 veterans are homeless at some point in any given year, so the VA is only serving 20 percent of them.

Roslyn Hannibal-Booker, director of development at the Maryland veterans center in Baltimore, said her organization has begun to get inquiries from veterans from Iraq and their worried families. "We are preparing for Iraq," Hannibal-Booker said.

 

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This is just another underhanded, mealymouthed tactic to heap discredit on the troops. Heap disgrace the troops and you disparage the war.

The left used this same ploy on the Vietnam troops, and to this day, Vietnam Vets are still looked at as social misfits, drug addicts and alcoholics.

The facts are that a lot of the left wing loonies make a living on the "Homeless". These homeless are mentally unstable people, drug addicts and alcoholics - many of whom claim to be vets because they've learned that people feel compassion for vets and will give freely, just as they do for children. A lot of the left wing elitists make good livings from the "homeless". They regularly inflate statisics and tell outright lies about their "clients", so that they can feed at the government trough.

Many attorneys also make a good living off of these bums by acting as a conduit for monthly SSI doisability checks - after all, drug addiction and alcoholism are diseases! The bums and addicts get free money and the attorneys get 20% of their monthly benefits. Of course, the money the bums get goes to drugs and booze.

The facts are that the vast majority of the homeless are bums who'd be better off in jail where they could get proper care.

Homelessness is big industry for the left, and you can expect a lot more articles like this one to keep the government money and civilian donations flowing into their coffers.

Hey Doc, is this how you make your living? Another leftist pig at the government trough - sucking up your daily bread on the reputations of the soldiers whose job it is to protect you!

Why don't you stick to slinging mud at Bush and Cheney and leave the soldiers alone? Are you so caustic toward Bush that you'd do anyone harm to stoke the flames of your hate?
 
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bblight:

You are one classless piece of crap ...

What does this have to do with slamming the troops?? We treated the Vets like crap when they came back from Vietnam and the pattern of them returning from Vietnam II is playing out in cities all over the country ...

The Bushies dont give a crap about our kids or vets ... Bush does not have the decency to attend ONE single funeral and has the balls to cut their benefits while over 1200 of them have died in a major military blunder by this SO CALLED Commander in Chief

I understand why this article upsets your phony ass .. you are just like Bush in so many ways ... anything negative coming out of this war is considered Anti-American ...

Go sell your bs viewpts elsewhere ... your concern for the kids who fought a BS war and died is so classless it is not even funny
 

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Its kinda funny but I just knew that BB would be here when I read the title.
 
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BB:

He sums up exactly what is going on ...

Anything "negative" is considered ANTI-AMERICAN ...

The Bushies had a hard-on to launch and destroy .. and how dare anyone show concern over kids dying in a hellhole? kids dying in a war based on lies? kids whose caskets were ordered not to be covered by the media when they arrive back home?

bblight, shove your disgrace comments .. the only thing disgraceful is this war and the SUPPOSSED Commander in Chief who took his phony ass on that Carrier and said "Mission Accomplished" ...

Bush is disgraceful and so is this country in the way we treat our brave kids who fight, are killed and maimed in BS wars like Vietnam I and now Vietnam II
 

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Doc - The point here is that you'll use any tool you can to discredit the Bush administration and the war. Painting the troops with a broad Brush as mental defectives and derilicts is one of the tools that the left has used thoughout the years.

One can always recognize the draft dodging bottom feeders by the tone of their posts toward soldiers - the more vehemently anti-soldier one is, the more likely that person was a draft dodging anti-Vietnam war piece of crap.

If you want to spit on the Bush administartion, then do so - but don't dosparage the soldiers or you'll have a battle on every front!

Doc - why don't I see you posting something positive about our soldiers - you know who they are - the guys who protect your right to treat them like schit! I understand that you lost your hack job when Ann Richards lost to George Bush, but please don't take it out on the troops.
 
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bblight:

You are just like Bush ... YOU DONT GIVE A RATS ASS how many of our kids die in a war that anyone with intelligence (which rules out the Bushies) knows was a major military blunder ...
 

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Doc - don't spin the subject! I'm talking about YOU trying to make vets look like derelicts; I'm not talking about Bush starting this war!

If you had talked about Bush and not about the vets, I wouldn't be posting!

Why don't you post your crap about Bush and leave the vets alone. The vets are just a few men who volunteered for service; most of them are trying to live up to their commitments - they are neither deserters or homeless - they're just soldiers trying to do their best!
 
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Who is giving the soldiers ****? I posted an article on the other side of this war ... you have a problem with that? Hey, dont blame me

I give a damn about what is going on and hate to see the ineptness of this administration having dragged our kids into Vietnam II ..

bblight, You really a 100% dipshit ... the kind of guy who love to see Bush nuke Tehran to kill millions ... I have no understanding why your life is so screwed up that you actually get off on seeing American kids and innocent Iraqi kids die daily

You are sick ... go crawl back into your hole with Cheney
 

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Doc,

Why do you engage this assclown. I can't believe he acuses you of spinning, when everytime you post an article that is pro troops the drooling halfwit spins it in his mind that you are anti troops.

He is just another wingnut trying get a rise out of you by twisting what you post. Don't lower yourself to his level.
 

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jinn - why don't you crawl back into the hole you came out of! I bet you never served! You're just like a lot of the left wing elitists who consider service beneath themselves and besmirch the troops every time they get a chance.

Your type are revisionists, changing history to suit your ideal without any thought to the harm they cause to others.

For decades, Vietnam Vets have been portrayed as social misfits; homeless derelicts who are caught up in drug and alcohol induced stupors. The anti-war crowd, in their guilt, feel much better about themselves if the Vietnam Vet is portrayed this way, rather than being portrayed as the productive citizens that they really are.

This article is more of the same crap - portraying the returning vet as "depressed" and unable to adjust to and cope with civilian life. Hey, I feel sorry for this guy - there are a lot of people in the world who are having a hard time coping - so why this article about this particular guy - maybe because he's a vet and his story gives the left wingers an opportunity to smear vets.

I wouldn't have my ire up if this article just went after the Pentagon - hell, those bastards are all politicians anyway - I'm angry because the article is taking the story of one returning vet and attempting to make that vet appear to be the norm rather than the exception.

This is a trick that Doc and the left wing media love to use to smear vets - and as I stated before, I won't back off as long as Doc insists on posting such horrific trash.

Politics have nothing to do with this as far as I'm concerned - every one of these men in uniform is a hero and should be lauded for protecting our rights!

Doc is a hateful old man who, for some reason, dislikes soldiers (maybe because he was a draft dodger in the 60's?). He is full of venom and loathing.
 
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Jinn: You are correct ....

First off, I was in high school in the mid 70's so missed the draft ... know a bunch of guys who served and were screwed up and pissed on when they came back .. Yeah, like they wanted to go to the jungles and fight ?

I respect soldiers ... enough that I would never scream, "bring it on!" like Bush did ... or stand in front of a National TV audience and do the ol "Mission Accomplished" BS

What I disrespect is the way Bush handled this whole Iraq mess ... he blew off all advice and told the entire world to stick it .. invaded a country with no exit strategy ... cut benefits for our kids while they are in combat ... told the media not to cover caskets coming home .. will not attend funerals but has the balls to fly over to Iraq for a chickencrap PR shoot with American soldiers

Jinn .. you are correct ... bblight Coulter seems to like to do the name calling and I'm done with that .. he aint worth it as he stands for what has taken this country into some very dangerous waters
 

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Doc - enough with the sob story excuses - those soldiers you mention - they "served" they went to Vietnam and did their duty! You don't mention any that deserted or went to Canada to avoid the draft - so these men did their duty!

How many of those men are in homeless shelters?
How many are social misfits?
How amny are solid, tax paying citizens?

A lot of people protested the war back then - and I also protested in my own way - but most of the people didn't turn their backs on the soldiers who served or tried to smear them with ugly labels; only the Jane Fonda brigade and the media did those things.

I don't know why you hate our soldiers, but please back off

Hey Jinn - I'd have to see your dd214 before I'd believe you - I think you're a liar and a left wing flea bag!
 

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Just like your bufoon of a president your good at calling others service and patriotism into question. I have NOTHING to prove to a ditto head like you. I feel dumber for even responding to a POS like you. Save your BS I won't respond again.
 
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Classic!

The Coulters - sorry, meant bblight - of the world like to use the word "Liar" on a continous basis ...

and funny how they voted for a man who lies more than probably any President in the history of this country .. a man whose life built on lies and deception .. from the AWOL service to this country to his Insider Trading @ Harken Energy to spreading of lies about McCain in 2000 to save his Presidential ambitions to the lies about the Iraq war ... and it goes on and on

Coulter - sorry, meant bblight again - you are a man who touts one thing and then turns right around and go against what you preach ....
 

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Doc, To tell the truth, Bush wasn't my favorite choice, but he was the only choice.

You can call him all of the names you want, but he had it heads and tails above Hanoi John Kerry.

By the way, the way the DNC is acting right now, the Republicans will have a good shot at gaining more seats in both houses for the upcoming mid-term election.

After listening to you and all of your left wing cronies crying and moaning about Bush - and seeing him already hard at work pushing his agenda, I decided to invest in Maalox, so I bought 100 shares of NVS. Please keep up the acid hate!
 

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JinnRikki said:
Just like your bufoon of a president your good at calling others service and patriotism into question. I have NOTHING to prove to a ditto head like you. I feel dumber for even responding to a POS like you. Save your BS I won't respond again.
Jinn - don't go away mad, just go away!

By the way, Canada is looking for a few upstanding citizens.
 

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Gotta be careful doc, with all this posting about homeless vets and civies getting mowed down....You're spoiling thier dream world where wars are fought without spilling blood and all the vets come back home to the neighborhood where Ward Cleaver lives....

Cars don't rust in the world these posters live in.
 

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