Homegrown Hatred CNN Video

[ScottL]

I think a lot of you guys are missing the point of this segment on CNN.

Roadreeler, as usual with his single issue tunnelvision sees everything from his immigration POV. I give up on the guy. He probably thinks Barman's crush Carrie Prejean illegally smuggled her new across the border.

Now for the guys who are comparing fundamentalist Christianity to radical Islam, I think you are too wrapped up in what each sect does to the individual's mind, rather than the actions that result from this programming.

Additionally you are equating present-day Christianity with radical actions of the past. Believe me, your pal SL is no fan of 1930-40s Germany or Poland, or the Spanish Inquisition.

What we are talking about here, and what is the point of this video, is that right now there are people in the street, US and non US citizens alike, screaming for the murder of not only American soldiers, but the random mass killing of American citizens. Their hero is OBL. All of these people are fanatics. None of them are Christians.

Some of you may feel, and correctly so, that fundamentalist Christians infringe on some of your rights as American citizens. You disagree with these people because they want to force their church rules onto the State. So your disagreement with fundamental Christians is HOW America should exist. Your disagreement with fundamental/radical Islam is THAT America should exist!

 

[manunitedfan23]

im from aus but im still sickened by this

 

[manunitedfan23]

gives their whole race a bad name

 

[barman]

Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs...

Having had plenty of exposure to hardcore fundy christianists here in the Bible Belt area of the USA over the past 30+ years, I can't disagree. They're pretty fucking wacky.

Thankfully, much like the third world mindset of radical Islamics, the 21st century is methodically eroding their superstitious and mind-twisting attitudes.

 

[sumday]

If taken literally no abrahamic religion is a religion of peace. For the most part Christianity and Judaism have been liberalized so you aren't stoning your daughters or killing your sons any more.

I've told him the same exact thing in a discussion quite awhile ago, he just can't comprehend it though.

For the last time..ISLAM is a religion of peace! Get that through your head and stop pretending you know what you are talking about Zit just because you read some book by some white dude who thinks he is informed too.

 

[kingbill]

I've told him the same exact thing in a discussion quite awhile ago, he just can't comprehend it though.

For the last time..ISLAM is a religion of peace! Get that through your head and stop pretending you know what you are talking about Zit just because you read some book by some white dude who thinks he is informed too.

I won't agree with that until its followers become liberalized like the followers of Judaism or Christianity.

 

[JudgeWapner]

Um... name one statement of Christ or New Testament writing that
advocates any form of violence whatsoever?

hno:

None that I know of Zit, which is why I only abide by the NT. However there are still many so called Christians who give a lot of weight to the OT. Some believing that the entire bible is the direct word of God.

 

[barman]

I won't agree with that until its followers become liberalized like the followers of Judaism or Christianity.

The radical aspects of Islam certainly do carry seeming undue weight in the year 2010.

But with each passing hour and day, that influence wanes, just as do all superstitious belief systems.

 

[ScottL]

Actually Bar the video disputes this. It shows people born here as moderate Muslims becoming hardline radical nutjobs, and others converting to Islamic fundamentalism from other religions.

But I do agree with you and you are channeling GWB here -- It is normal for people to want to be free. Hopefully the forces of freedom defeat the forces of oppression. But there are many countries living under this brutal oppression and slavery.

I don't care how or if someone worships God as long as they don't murder everyone else into their belief system. Radical Islam is a mental illness embraced by way too many people at this time. Modernity may not have time to take over if so many are willing to die for a murderous ideology.

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

" It is normal for people to want to be free. '

It is? How do these people know what "free" is? By looking at us????? Are u kidding???????
When Sadaam was overthrown EVERY person in IRAQ under the age of 38 or so had never known any other Govt in their lives but his dictatorship...Did they all convert to Democracy overnight? NO they ran back to the protection of their religious leaders and the many various forms it takes meaning even further division among the people NOT togetherness or "freedom". All these people know is a controlled life and have no concept of anything else..

1 example. i know a vietnamese immigrant whos been here for years, i asked him who he was voting for. he said he would never vote. Why? Because he is still afraid that like in his old country if he votes for someone and they lose he will be killed by the opposition Party....He believes this to this very day despite seeing no evidence of it. Its ingrained in his culture and has been for generations, no amount of "instant freedom" can change a lifetime or generations of beliefs....

 

[punter]

Animals! If poor glen reads this he will cry.

 

[barman]

Actually Bar the video disputes this. It shows people born here as moderate Muslims becoming hardline radical nutjobs, and others converting to Islamic fundamentalism from other religions.

But I do agree with you and you are channeling GWB here -- It is normal for people to want to be free. Hopefully the forces of freedom defeat the forces of oppression. But there are many countries living under this brutal oppression and slavery.

I don't care how or if someone worships God as long as they don't murder everyone else into their belief system. Radical Islam is a mental illness embraced by way too many people at this time. Modernity may not have time to take over if so many are willing to die for a murderous ideology.

Respectfully, the video does not particularly dispute my previous assertion.

Rather, it does show a portion of the still-healthy portion of the radical Islamic movement. But that doesn't belie the reality that for every conversion to the "dark side", there's two moving towards the light.

Our (Good Guys Inc) best response is to continue to accurately educate and attract more to the Light. At the end of the day, the shallow, vengance driven evil of the Dark just can't hold up in comparison.

 

[barman]

PPP's single anecdotatal account of a Viet-American immigrant is supplemented by the hundreds of thousands of other Viet-Americans who have immigrated into the USA since the 1970s who today are active in the U.S. civic and voting process.

The same dichotomy exists with Islamic people both here and abroad. If one wishes to focus on the diehards who remain intent on staying Dark, it's perhaps understandable why you might be tacitly unaware of the many others who are moving to the Light.

 

[ScottL]

There's no way to count how many are moving from darkness to light. The reason this video was shown on CNN is because of what happened at Fort Hood. The point of the video was to show that CONVERTS TO RADICAL ISLAM, people who went from light into darkness are using our freedom of speech to battle against our way of life.

A child was born here in the US, raised a moderate Muslim, joined the US Army and became a PTSD therapist. At some point he became an Islamic Fundamentalist and went on a jihadist shooting spree, murdering and maiming his fellow soldiers. In other words he committed a terrorist act. He didn't as you wrote, "remain intent on staying dark." He was born into light and embraced darkness. And it is his "brothers" are who depicted in the video.

What are really trying to say Bar? That radical Islam is no threat to us?