Hillary's State Department Refused to Brand Boko Haram as Terrorists

[Acebb]

Smartest woman in the room:

The State Department under Hillary Clinton fought hard against placing the al Qaeda-linked militant group Boko Haram on its official list of foreign terrorist organizations for two years. And now, lawmakers and former U.S. officials are saying that the decision may have hampered the American government’s ability to confront the Nigerian group that shocked the world by abducting hundreds of innocent girls.

In the past week, Clinton, who made protecting women and girls a key pillar of her tenure at the State Department, has been a vocal advocate for the 200 Nigerian girls kidnapped by Boko Haram, the loosely organized group of militants terrorizing northern Nigeria. Her May 4 tweet about the girls, using the hashtag #BringBackOurGirls, was cited across the media and widely credited for raising awareness of their plight.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...efused-to-brand-boko-haram-as-terrorists.html

The fact that this woman, Mrs. Clinton, is reduced to sending out Tweets about this is pathetic.

 

[Acebb]

How about this gem:

Bill Clinton insists poverty behind Boko Haram


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/...erty-behind-boko-haram-ansaru-insurgency.html

You can't get a more warped world view than these people have.

This sums it up:

What, in hindsight, can be only described as an obtuse and extremely wrong statement, former President Bill Clinton stated in 2013 that the terrorist organization Boko Haram acts out of poverty, not because of religious fervor.

 

[Willie99]

How about this gem:

Bill Clinton insists poverty behind Boko Haram


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/...erty-behind-boko-haram-ansaru-insurgency.html

You can't get a more warped world view than these people have.

This sums it up:

What, in hindsight, can be only described as an obtuse and extremely wrong statement, former President Bill Clinton stated in 2013 that the terrorist organization Boko Haram acts out of poverty, not because of religious fervor.

well, there is some truth to that, poverty is behind most of the world's problems

I think terrorism is the byproduct of poverty and despair and the lack of education

in some cases however, it's the byproduct of greed




but this does not absolve Hillary for not calling a spade a spade

 

[russ1945]

As usual Hillary is not pro-active. We all pay the price for things she sees in hind sight. Benghazi is the most obvious example. Why not up security in an area where other nations had pulled out completely. Makes no sense it all except for the fact that for her just like Obama everything has to do with politics. Politics trumps everything else. So in this case just like with Benghazi Hillary continues to demonstrate her detachment as she continues to put important issues on the back burner and call a spade a spade like Willie says. Same goes for Holder, it is all about politics for this administratiion and Hillary fit right in. She has zero accomplishment to fall back on but numerous failures on almost every level.

 

[SheriffJoe]

well, there is some truth to that, poverty is behind most of the world's problems

I think terrorism is the byproduct of poverty and despair and the lack of education

in some cases however, it's the byproduct of greed

but this does not absolve Hillary for not calling a spade a spade

I think terrorism is the byproduct of people who think like this:

 

[Acebb]

[h=2]POVERTY DOES NOT CAUSE TERRORISM[/h]
http://spectator.org/articles/40295/poverty-does-not-cause-terrorism

 

[Acebb]

Now you can argue that the people most susceptible to radical Islam are poor and uneducated, but I would not believe poverty causes terrorism.

Just as I wouldn't believe poverty causes crime.

 

[Acebb]

 

[Willie99]

Now you can argue that the people most susceptible to radical Islam are poor and uneducated, but I would not believe poverty causes terrorism.

Just as I wouldn't believe poverty causes crime.

I disagree. Poverty and despair are often hand in hand, you're unlikely to suffer from despair if not impoverished. When a person's life is hopeless, if he has nothing, if he's uneducated mostly because education is not an option, if there's violence all around him, it's very easy to make that person hate, easy to make that person blame others, that type of soul has no where to look except religion.

Those are the people who's minds are molded to hate the great Satan, to hate western civilization, to become terrorists. They do so for god, they do so to win something for their families, they have NOTHING to lose. Those are the people they mold into terrorists, with exceptions of course. I'm talking more about suicide bombers, or people who give their lives for the cause. The masterminds don't give their lives. Some men who have a lot to lose have given their lives, but they're the minority.

I don't believe anyone who lives in the states lives in those conditions, so the analogy with crime misses the boat IMO.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

I disagree. Poverty and despair are often hand in hand, you're unlikely to suffer from despair if not impoverished. When a person's life is hopeless, if he has nothing, if he's uneducated mostly because education is not an option, if there's violence all around him, it's very easy to make that person hate, easy to make that person blame others, that type of soul has no where to look except religion.

Those are the people who's minds are molded to hate the great Satan, to hate western civilization, to become terrorists. They do so for god, they do so to win something for their families, they have NOTHING to lose. Those are the people they mold into terrorists, with exceptions of course. I'm talking more about suicide bombers, or people who give their lives for the cause. The masterminds don't give their lives. Some men who have a lot to lose have given their lives, but they're the minority.

I don't believe anyone who lives in the states lives in those conditions, so the analogy with crime misses the boat IMO.

Willie, by your assessment these people would be killing everything in sight. Yet…

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=6865077

Islam and it’s evil beliefs are at the core. Not poverty.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Willie, by your assessment these people would be killing everything in sight. Yet…

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=6865077

Islam and it’s evil beliefs are at the core. Not poverty.

Al-Qaeda is middle-upper class.

"Poverty causes terrorism" is best left to the David Corn losers of the world.

 

[ScottL]

Actually to carry out a terrorist plot you need money. Most of these organizations have a hierarchy -- The financiers, the handlers and the brainwashed cannon fodder who come from both rich and poor families. But when you run out of money you lose your ability to carry out mayhem. And are more likely to be discovered by those who hunt you. The Yemenese gov't is kicking AQAPs ass right now.

 

[russ1945]

One common problem that Ameicans have always had is looking at things through American eyes. We have a tendency to think that everyone thinks like us and if not they should. Remember the Ugly American, he is still alive and well. That old saying walk a mile in my shoes is now walk a mile in the sand in my sandals. Religion drives Islam, they do not and will never think like Americans. Over here the almighty dollar rules. Over there it is following a way of life centered on a common religion. Religion is their common bond not the almighty dollar. As America has become less religious and even more inclined toward atheism the disparity in the way we see the world and they see the world is night and day. We don't think like them and we never will. But...we have our money and our possessions, they don't. It far exceeds being poor monetarily. Their religion is to them what money and possessions are to us. They hate us, they always have and they always will. Until we accept the fact that we are infidels in their eyes we are simply ignoring the facts. Muslims are united in their hatred against us and yet this administration continues to give them respect that they have never earned much less deserve. They have no tolerance for us yet we are supposed to tolerate them. Makes no sense at all.

 

[Willie99]

Willie, by your assessment these people would be killing everything in sight. Yet…

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=6865077

Islam and it’s evil beliefs are at the core. Not poverty.

guys, poverty and despair and ignorance make it easy for the money to recruit suicide members into their organization. And people in despair tend to turn to religion first because they have nothing else

I'm not saying it's a catchall, but it is most definitely part of the equation. It can't be ignored

If we can eliminate the poverty and despair and provide education, we start to change the balance of power in those regions

 

[Willie99]

at the end of the day, people want to provide for their families. It's the primary motivation for mankind, food, shelter and family. There will always be exceptions, as there are in all walks of life, but opportunity cures many ills. Despair is a heavy burden to bear

 

[Dave007inVegas]

guys, poverty and despair and ignorance make it easy for the money to recruit suicide members into their organization. And people in despair tend to turn to religion first because they have nothing else

I'm not saying it's a catchall, but it is most definitely part of the equation. It can't be ignored

If we can eliminate the poverty and despair and provide education, we start to change the balance of power in those regions

The problem is we can’t. Exhibit A is Iraq. With the exception of Saddams wealth, the population was a poor.

We try to help them rebuild and educate and when we leave it’s goes back to square one.

If we keep thinking we can lead people out poverty, especially 3rd world countries, we’re kidding ourselves or we’re suffering from delusions of grandeur.

When it came to donating money my father used to say, charity begins at home. I’m beginning to believe he was right.

 

[Willie99]

I simply don't share your assessment of Iraq. They believe they are better off today than under Saddam, and the rebuilding process takes a long time

our own democracy had lots of turmoil for an extended period of time, we still do

so I'm giving that process more time, and I do believe the desire for freedoms will permeate throughout the region



I know we can't sit here and hope for something better, that wasn't working

 

[Dave007inVegas]

I simply don't share your assessment of Iraq. They believe they are better off today than under Saddam, and the rebuilding process takes a long time

our own democracy had lots of turmoil for an extended period of time, we still do

so I'm giving that process more time, and I do believe the desire for freedoms will permeate throughout the region



I know we can't sit here and hope for something better, that wasn't working

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/officials-attacks-iraq-kill-people-23640796

I could give you 20 more examples. The Iraq government is simply not capable of dealing with the insurgents.

Only time will tell but if I had to put my money where my mouth is I’d bet on the Iranian backed terrorists.

 

[SheriffJoe]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/officials-attacks-iraq-kill-people-23640796

I could give you 20 more examples. The Iraq government is simply not capable of dealing with the insurgents.

Only time will tell but if I had to put my money where my mouth is I’d bet on the Iranian backed terrorists.

Nothing a hot chick and a few cold ones can't fix.

There ya go, "Smart Power"

 

[Acebb]

Why Did Hillary Defend Boko Harem?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/05/why-did-hillary-clinton-defend-boko-haram.php