[h=1]Even Stormfront Thinks Hillary Clinton Won The Debate[/h]
Ashley Feinberg
Today 12:45amFiled to: the nazis
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Since being founded by a former Ku Klux Klan leader in 1996, Stormfront has been the internet’s premier destination for white nationalist and neo-Nazi keyboard warriors everywhere. And even they think Hillary Clinton won the debate tonight.
Of course, not everyone on the site is in agreement, but a bizarre number of them (which is to say, more than one) think ol’ Hil-LIE-ry had it in the bag:
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Ashley Feinberg
Today 12:45amFiled to: the nazis
737http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/even-stormfront-thinks-hillary-clinton-won-the-debate-1787121521#
Since being founded by a former Ku Klux Klan leader in 1996, Stormfront has been the internet’s premier destination for white nationalist and neo-Nazi keyboard warriors everywhere. And even they think Hillary Clinton won the debate tonight.
Of course, not everyone on the site is in agreement, but a bizarre number of them (which is to say, more than one) think ol’ Hil-LIE-ry had it in the bag:
:bigfinger:bigfinger:bigfinger:bigfinger:bigfinger^^
^^^^^^^^@)
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Trump 1 Hillary 0
Viewers who hate Trump will say Clinton won by being more presidential.
Maybe. But she also displayed all the faults of liberalism that has lost it so much working-class support down the decades.
She addressed not Americans in general but special interests in particular – women, Hispanics, African-Americans. She claimed to back business while backing more regulations.
She broadly supported globalisation.
Her positions on foreign policy were undistinguishable from Bush or Obama.
He economic solutions were wonky, such as investing in solar panels.
Her central argument was she has practical ideas to change people’s lives rather than wild rhetoric.
That's essentially a negative pitch: it's me, or him, and he's a lunatic. From day one of this campaign, she’s gambled on the public giving her the White House by default.[/FONT]
Trump 1 Hillary 0
Viewers who hate Trump will say Clinton won by being more presidential.
Maybe. But she also displayed all the faults of liberalism that has lost it so much working-class support down the decades.
She addressed not Americans in general but special interests in particular – women, Hispanics, African-Americans. She claimed to back business while backing more regulations.
She broadly supported globalisation.
Her positions on foreign policy were undistinguishable from Bush or Obama.
He economic solutions were wonky, such as investing in solar panels.
Her central argument was she has practical ideas to change people’s lives rather than wild rhetoric.
That's essentially a negative pitch: it's me, or him, and he's a lunatic. From day one of this campaign, she’s gambled on the public giving her the White House by default.[/FONT]
Trump 1 Hillary 0
Trump, by contrast, said everything that anyone who hates Clinton – and that’s a lot of people – have been waiting thirty years to say (including the fact that they’ve been waiting so long to say it, for this lady has been around since Jefferson). In the terms of reality TV, he did well. He harassed, he shouted, he taunted, he talked over. And Clinton let him do it.
Trump, by contrast, said everything that anyone who hates Clinton – and that’s a lot of people – have been waiting thirty years to say (including the fact that they’ve been waiting so long to say it, for this lady has been around since Jefferson). In the terms of reality TV, he did well. He harassed, he shouted, he taunted, he talked over. And Clinton let him do it.
Trump 1 Hillary 0
Her plan, obviously, was to let him talk himself out. Let the craziness out itself.
At various points, that worked: Trump did not need to ramble about the birth certificate in the way he did.
But at other points, her decision to stand back was mistaken.
She stood there smiling, as if she was above it all. His charges went unanswered.
And they’re good charges.
She was part of the administration under which the Middle East spun out of control, jobs continued to flood to China, thousands crossed the border, and – most importantly – law and order was seen to break down in the cities.
When that issue was raised, Clinton made a critical mistake.
She talked about the importance of good race relations, about tackling the apparently prejudicial shootings of black men by police.
For some voters, that’s what the issue is about.
But the vast majority are far more concerned about threats to their lives and their property by rioters.
[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]Trump won the reality TV debate. He has won politics in 2016. [/FONT]
Her plan, obviously, was to let him talk himself out. Let the craziness out itself.
At various points, that worked: Trump did not need to ramble about the birth certificate in the way he did.
But at other points, her decision to stand back was mistaken.
She stood there smiling, as if she was above it all. His charges went unanswered.
And they’re good charges.
She was part of the administration under which the Middle East spun out of control, jobs continued to flood to China, thousands crossed the border, and – most importantly – law and order was seen to break down in the cities.
When that issue was raised, Clinton made a critical mistake.
She talked about the importance of good race relations, about tackling the apparently prejudicial shootings of black men by police.
For some voters, that’s what the issue is about.
But the vast majority are far more concerned about threats to their lives and their property by rioters.
[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]Trump won the reality TV debate. He has won politics in 2016. [/FONT]
.@DRUDGE_REPORT's First Presidential Debate Poll:Trump: 80%Clinton: 20%Join the MOVEMENT today & lets #MAGA! http://www.DonaldJTrump.com 
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Thank you! CNBC #DebateNight
poll with over 400,000 votes. Trump 61%Clinton 39%#AmericaFirst #ImWithYou https://instagram.com/p/BK2RrsHjTDR/ 
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TIME #DebateNight
poll - over 800,000 votes. Thank you! #AmericaFirst #MAGA
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Even Michael Moore think Trump kicked the witch's ass!
Michael Moore @MMFlint 9h9 hours ago
Pro-Hillary gloaters doing end-zone dance again when still on 50-yd line. U MUST get it in your head TRUMP IS GONNA WIN and act accordingly!
Michael Moore @MMFlint 9h9 hours ago
Pro-Hillary gloaters doing end-zone dance again when still on 50-yd line. U MUST get it in your head TRUMP IS GONNA WIN and act accordingly!
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The real loser of the night was Lester Dolt. We were told the debate was going to be about taxes, the economy and foreign policy. Instead, it became about birtherism, Trumps tax returns, oh and his sexism and racism or something.
LESTER HOLT: THE THIRD DEBATER...
Asked Trump 6 follow-up questions, did not ask ANY of Clinton...
Interrupted Trump 41 times, Clinton 7...
'Fact-checking' becomes opinion journalism...
As you would say, not a good look for America's Crooked Party.
How Trump won over a bar full of undecideds and Democrats
By Salena Zito
September 26, 2016 | 11:53pm
YOUNGSTOWN, Pa. — Ken Reed sat down at the main bar of the Tin Lizzy tavern with two things in mind: to dig into the tavern’s oversize cheese steak, and watch the presidential debate.
“I am hungry and undecided, in that order,” he said, digging into the savory dish in a bar that dates back to 1746.
Kady Letoksy, a paralegal by day, a waitress and bartender at night at the Tin Lizzy, sat beside him. At 28, she has never voted before, and she is now thinking it might be a good idea to start.
Letosky entered the evening undecided in a town that is heavily Democratic in registration. Her sister and father are on opposite sides of the political aisle. Donald “Trump had the upper hand this evening,” she said, citing his command of the back-and-forth between him and Hillary Clinton.
Reed, 35, is a registered Democrat and small businessman. “By the end of the debate, Clinton never said a thing to persuade me that she had anything to offer me or my family or my community,” he said, sitting at the same bar that has boasted local icons as regulars, such as the late Fred Rogers, and Arnold Palmer, who had his own stash of PM Whiskey hidden behind newer bottles of whiskey for his regular visits.
“Have to say Trump had the edge this evening, he came out swinging but also talked about specifics on jobs and the economy,” Reed said.
Reed said Clinton came across as either smug or as though she was reading her résumé, adding there was nothing on her résumé that touched on his life. “I am a small businessman, a farmer, come from a long line of farmers and coal miners. The policies she talked about tonight ultimately either hurt me or ignore me,” he said.
How apropos for this presidential election that these patrons chose the Tin Lizzy — a 270-year-old tavern in this small Westmoreland County town — as the place to watch the historic debate between Clinton and Trump.
The tavern’s namesake is the Model T, the first affordable automobile available to America’s working class, which eventually became slang for something quite different.
If someone said you were “going the way of the Tin Lizzy,” it meant your job or industry was in decline, no longer useful.
That is how today’s cosmopolitan and political classes view Main Street voters — as people whose values, traditions, skills, jobs and lives are being replaced by something new.
“I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the way he was, her policies would not bring back jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.
It burns Nemick when Clinton references her husband, like she did in the debate on trade and jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of the Democrat he admired in his youth.
Pennsylvania is a high-stakes state for both candidates, but particularly Clinton, and Westmoreland is a high-stakes county, particularly for Trump.
She needs to win this state, and he needs not just to win this county but to do so by 2,000 more votes than Mitt Romney did in 2012.
Westmoreland is one of about 10 formerly or traditionally Democrat-blue counties across the state where Trump must drive up a higher-than-normal turnout, or even flip them to Republican red, in order to offset an anticipated high turnout for Clinton in Philadelphia.
The other counties are Cambria, Greene, Fayette and Washington in the southwest corner of the state and Bucks, Lackawanna, Lancaster, Luzerne and York in the east.
Between 1960 and 2000, Westmoreland County Democrats handily won presidential races with one exception: Ronald Reagan’s 1980 victory.
By 1984, voters here were back to their Democratic allegiances, giving their votes to Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis and Bill Clinton.
When Al Gore turned the party toward its progressive wing in 2000, however, he left behind Westmoreland County Democrats.
Democrats here are more traditional in their values — they are pro-gun, pro-life, pro-coal, something today’s Democratic Party has left no room for.
Trump probably connects better with such voters than did Romney in 2012, or John McCain in 2008; a large part of the reason is his outside-the-box style. Yet for him to win the state, such voters need to turn out in force — here and elsewhere — to offset Philly’s overwhelming numbers.
Before the debate, the latest CNN poll showed a virtual tie in the Keystone State.
Outside the bar, a lone sign lit up the quiet corner of the old Lincoln Highway: “RIP Mr. Palmer, Forever in our hearts,” honoring Arnold Palmer, who died Sunday.
“He was just a regular guy, just a working-class guy at heart like everyone else around here,” said Jim Sciabica, the unofficial bar manager and small businessman who kept “Mr. Palmer’s” PM Whiskey tucked in a corner away from patrons and workers.
By Salena Zito
September 26, 2016 | 11:53pm
YOUNGSTOWN, Pa. — Ken Reed sat down at the main bar of the Tin Lizzy tavern with two things in mind: to dig into the tavern’s oversize cheese steak, and watch the presidential debate.
“I am hungry and undecided, in that order,” he said, digging into the savory dish in a bar that dates back to 1746.
Kady Letoksy, a paralegal by day, a waitress and bartender at night at the Tin Lizzy, sat beside him. At 28, she has never voted before, and she is now thinking it might be a good idea to start.
Letosky entered the evening undecided in a town that is heavily Democratic in registration. Her sister and father are on opposite sides of the political aisle. Donald “Trump had the upper hand this evening,” she said, citing his command of the back-and-forth between him and Hillary Clinton.
Reed, 35, is a registered Democrat and small businessman. “By the end of the debate, Clinton never said a thing to persuade me that she had anything to offer me or my family or my community,” he said, sitting at the same bar that has boasted local icons as regulars, such as the late Fred Rogers, and Arnold Palmer, who had his own stash of PM Whiskey hidden behind newer bottles of whiskey for his regular visits.
“Have to say Trump had the edge this evening, he came out swinging but also talked about specifics on jobs and the economy,” Reed said.
Reed said Clinton came across as either smug or as though she was reading her résumé, adding there was nothing on her résumé that touched on his life. “I am a small businessman, a farmer, come from a long line of farmers and coal miners. The policies she talked about tonight ultimately either hurt me or ignore me,” he said.
How apropos for this presidential election that these patrons chose the Tin Lizzy — a 270-year-old tavern in this small Westmoreland County town — as the place to watch the historic debate between Clinton and Trump.
The tavern’s namesake is the Model T, the first affordable automobile available to America’s working class, which eventually became slang for something quite different.
If someone said you were “going the way of the Tin Lizzy,” it meant your job or industry was in decline, no longer useful.
That is how today’s cosmopolitan and political classes view Main Street voters — as people whose values, traditions, skills, jobs and lives are being replaced by something new.
“I’ve been a Democrat all of my life, but when Clinton mentions her husband and the jobs he brought to the country in the ’90s, it’s not a fair assessment. She is no moderate Democrat the way he was, her policies would not bring back jobs,” said Nathan Nemick.
It burns Nemick when Clinton references her husband, like she did in the debate on trade and jobs. “She is nothing like him,” he said of the Democrat he admired in his youth.
Pennsylvania is a high-stakes state for both candidates, but particularly Clinton, and Westmoreland is a high-stakes county, particularly for Trump.
She needs to win this state, and he needs not just to win this county but to do so by 2,000 more votes than Mitt Romney did in 2012.
Westmoreland is one of about 10 formerly or traditionally Democrat-blue counties across the state where Trump must drive up a higher-than-normal turnout, or even flip them to Republican red, in order to offset an anticipated high turnout for Clinton in Philadelphia.
The other counties are Cambria, Greene, Fayette and Washington in the southwest corner of the state and Bucks, Lackawanna, Lancaster, Luzerne and York in the east.
Between 1960 and 2000, Westmoreland County Democrats handily won presidential races with one exception: Ronald Reagan’s 1980 victory.
By 1984, voters here were back to their Democratic allegiances, giving their votes to Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis and Bill Clinton.
When Al Gore turned the party toward its progressive wing in 2000, however, he left behind Westmoreland County Democrats.
Democrats here are more traditional in their values — they are pro-gun, pro-life, pro-coal, something today’s Democratic Party has left no room for.
Trump probably connects better with such voters than did Romney in 2012, or John McCain in 2008; a large part of the reason is his outside-the-box style. Yet for him to win the state, such voters need to turn out in force — here and elsewhere — to offset Philly’s overwhelming numbers.
Before the debate, the latest CNN poll showed a virtual tie in the Keystone State.
Outside the bar, a lone sign lit up the quiet corner of the old Lincoln Highway: “RIP Mr. Palmer, Forever in our hearts,” honoring Arnold Palmer, who died Sunday.
“He was just a regular guy, just a working-class guy at heart like everyone else around here,” said Jim Sciabica, the unofficial bar manager and small businessman who kept “Mr. Palmer’s” PM Whiskey tucked in a corner away from patrons and workers.
