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I just wonder, when they blame it on the economy, are they really able to keep a straight face???



Army Headed to Recruiting Shortfall

By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer 39 minutes ago

The Army appears likely to fall short of its full-year recruiting goal for the first time since 1999, raising longer-term questions about a military embroiled in its first protracted wars since switching from the draft to a volunteer force 32 years ago.

Many young people and their parents have grown more wary of Army service because of the likelihood of being dispatched on combat tours to Iraq or Afghanistan, opinion polls show. U.S. troops are dying at a rate of two a day in Iraq, more than two years after President Bush declared that major combat operations had ended.

The Army says today's economy offers attractive alternatives to many high school and college graduates.

The recruiting statistics appear to bear that out. Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the target was lowered by 1,350.

The Army said it lowered the May target to "adjust for changing market conditions," knowing that the difference will have to be made up in the months ahead.

The Army also missed its monthly targets in April, March and February — each month worse than the one before. In February it fell 27 percent short; in March the gap was 31 percent, and in April it was 42 percent.

"It's like having a persistent drought," said Daniel Goure, a military analyst at the private Lexington Institute. "At some point when you have drought conditions you have to institute water rationing, and that's what you potentially face in the military if it goes on long enough. You would get to a stage where you don't have enough people to staff your organizations."

Prior to February, the last time the Army had missed a monthly recruiting goal was May 2000.

The Army National Guard and Army Reserve are even farther behind in recruiting this year.

The shortfalls have led to speculation that the government might be forced to reinstitute the draft. There is little support for that in Congress, and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has ruled it out, saying the all-volunteer force has proven the wisdom of discontinuing the draft in 1973.

Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty, spokesman for the Army's chief of personnel, said in an interview that despite the recent setbacks the Army remains cautiously optimistic that it will make up the lost ground this summer — traditionally the most fruitful period of the year for recruiters — and reach the full-year goal of 80,000 enlistees.

"One number matters: 80,000," Hilferty said. "The Army's fiscal 2005 goal was, is and remains 80,000 recruits."

Others, speaking privately, said the official optimism is sagging rapidly. They note that with only four months left in the budget year, the Army is at barely 50 percent of its goal. Recruiters would have to land more than 9,760 young men and women a month, on average, to reach the 80,000 target by the end of September.

In other words, they would have to far exceed their official targets, which range from 5,650 to 9,250 a month.

With the summer recruiting season in mind, the Army has added hundreds of extra recruiters, raised the enlistment bonus for four-year commitments to $20,000, and targeted more advertising at parents. Hilferty says the extra recruiters are being counted on to produce big results between now and September.

"They're better now than they were last month," he said. "Experience counts."

Goure said the prospect of reaching 80,000 is grim.

"I don't see them making it," he said.

If the slump ended next year the impact might not be great. But if it continues, as many expect, the consequences could be large.

The problem, if it lasts, would be particularly acute for the Army because it is in the midst of a major expansion of its ranks — from about 482,000 soldiers in the active force to 512,000 — in order to complete a top-to-bottom redesign of its 10 combat divisions. That redesign is central to the Army's "transformation" plan to become more agile and mobile — and to have more units available for duty in Iraq.

The Marine Corps also has missed monthly recruiting targets lately, but only by small margins. The Air Force and the Navy, in contrast, are easily meeting their goals, in part because they play much smaller and less publicized roles in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Navy is actually trying to shed thousands from its ranks.

Beyond the statistical comparisons, the military as a whole may be entering a period in which new approaches are needed to fill its ranks.

Charles Moskos, a sociology professor and expert on military personnel issues at Northwestern University, has said the Army's recruiting woes are likely to persist until the children of upper-class America begin to enlist more readily. He also sees a possibility of the services relying more on non-Americans to sign up.

Moskos said in an interview Wednesday that of the 750 males in his graduating class at Princeton University in 1956, more than 400 went on to serve in the military. Of the 1,100 males and females in last year's Princeton class, eight joined.

"That's the difference," he said.
 
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Good post Bill. I was equally amazed at this article when I recently read. The first casualty of war is THE TRUTH!
 
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If they give 'em wage parity with Halliburton employees in Iraq, the problem would be solved.
 
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Yeah no kidding. Should be obvious how bad the pay is when they need generous citizens like ourselves to make sure they have expensive items like lip balm, sunblock and playing cards...
 
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I would say the board of directors and shareholders of halliburton have the means to donate plenty of money to veterans groups when they are finished fighting this war for big oil and imperialism.

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This is an interesting dilemna for the current admin. Their current plans as on the board now are to still have over 120,000 troops in Iraq up until 2007. Meanwhile, they will fall far short of recruiting goals for an already distressed Armed Forces. It's simple: it's one thing for economically disadvantaged young people seeking opportunity to join the Armed Forces in peacetime, it's a whole different deal when they're facing imminent combat in Iraq.

When we officially declare a withdrawal, there will be a massive exodus of Armed Forces personnel as moral is at breaking point for many regular and reserve units.

And to think Rumsfeld was pushing to reduce our Armed Forces even further. And yet we want to fight two wars at once and project a capability to fight even more. Fvckin' brilliant.
 
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I know how this ends. They will finally say they have to have a draft and start it up. They will go to some highly religious conservative bastion in the South, something like Bob Jones University. In front of a bunch of screaming, cheering students (carefully screened of course), Bush will talk about how the draft will preserve and defend democracy and then they will unfurl a sign "Mission Accomplished".
 

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WOW soldiers who have to soldier instead of getting a free ride....what is this country coming to we want the free ride back, please.
 

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WildBill said:
I know how this ends. They will finally say they have to have a draft and start it up. They will go to some highly religious conservative bastion in the South, something like Bob Jones University. In front of a bunch of screaming, cheering students (carefully screened of course), Bush will talk about how the draft will preserve and defend democracy and then they will unfurl a sign "Mission Accomplished".

Wha? (I would think you don't know shit)
 
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TomKing said:
WOW soldiers who have to soldier instead of getting a free ride....what is this country coming to we want the free ride back, please.
Thankfully mothers and fathers are sick of sending their kids of to fight this misadventure. See, heh, when you have something truly important on the line (your kids life) this ill advised and poorly planned war doesn't look so attractive.

Since your not in Iraq fighting I'm sure you have a son or daughter their fighting the good fight for you.
 

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JinnRikki said:
Thankfully mothers and fathers are sick of sending their kids of to fight this misadventure. See, heh, when you have something truly important on the line (your kids life) this ill advised and poorly planned war doesn't look so attractive.

Since your not in Iraq fighting I'm sure you have a son or daughter their fighting the good fight for you.

Good lord, mothers and fathers did not send anyone anywhere..........there is NO draft this is a voluntary military made of people who wanted to be soldiers. Waaa waaa waaaas shut up already.
 

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Good lord, mothers and fathers did not send anyone anywhere..........there is NO draft this is a voluntary military made of people who wanted to be soldiers. Waaa waaa waaaas shut up already.

Precisely my point. It's voluntary. And as long as it is and we are engaged in Iraq, you will see:

- massive shortfalls in recruiting targets
- increased deployment of reserve units
- multiple rotations of regular units
- leading to more separation from families and negative impact on morale
- leading into decreased size of regular and reserve forces

If you can't see that, you couldn't track an elephant in 10 feet of snow, in other words, you'd have to be blind.

Had Rumsfeld and the Bush Admin heeded the words of Tommy Franks, Gen Shinseki, Thomas White, et al., and put 300,000 more troops on the ground as originally recommended, as flawed as the premise was for going to war, they could have still tamed Iraq.

Now, we're just feeding Americans lives and dollars piecemeal into a machine that will use them up and spit them out with nothing to be gained.

TK, As far as your comments on the Volunteer Armed Forces, lemme guess - you probably drive an SUV with a yellow Support the Troops ribbon on it out in the suburbs and drive on people's lawns and rip out their "war is not the answer" signs - so you must be a super patriot. Way to support the troops!/ :103631605
 

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Great post mudbone....

They want to export democracy to Iraq yet they can't even control a street.....little wonder why enlistments are down.

The government can't run a business, who actually thinks they can fight a war?

Civil war for Iraq, the only variable is when you guys decide to pull out and end the stupidity of trying to conquer a nation of Muslims and thier deepset religious foundations......you might as well try to get everybody on the planet to speak the same language while you're looking for failing pastimes.
 

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