Here’s What Happened After ‘Black Lives Matter’ Protester Underwent Use of Force Scenarios With Cops

[Mr_Mark]

couldnt embed the video correctly

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...r-underwent-use-of-force-scenarios-with-cops/

 

[StevieRay]

The ol "shoe on the other foot"

No doubt these protesters in these situations would pull the trigger faster than current law enforcement lol

 

[Willie99]

it's not rocket science, behave in a reasonable fashion and your likelihood of getting shot diminish 10,000 fold

 

[BranFlakes]

Appreciate any person who can change their attitudes when given the facts. Rare in today's world. Every police department in every major city in America should invite their local media outlets and black leaders for "real life" simulated scenarios that police face everyday. At the very least, it might generate more respect for the tough job that police have.

 

[FairWarning]

it's not rocket science, behave in a reasonable fashion and your likelihood of getting shot diminish 10,000 fold

This

 

[JohnnyMac]

it's not rocket science, behave in a reasonable fashion and your likelihood of getting shot diminish 10,000 fold

Unless you are a 12 year old black boy in Cleveland.

 

[worldstage]

Unless you are a 12 year old black boy in Cleveland.

You mean the 12 year old black boy in Cleveland that was pointing a gun at people in the park?

 

[JohnnyMac]

You mean the 12 year old black boy in Cleveland that was pointing a gun at people in the park?

The 911 caller said "fake gun." You know, the kind 12 year old boys PLAY with.

 

[Willie99]

Unless you are a 12 year old black boy in Cleveland.

do you think that was racially motivated?

 

[JohnnyMac]

do you think that was racially motivated?

Do you think a white 12 year old boy gets shot within 2 seconds of the police arriving?

 

[Porcupine]

The 911 caller said "fake gun." You know, the kind 12 year old boys PLAY with.

The caller said they didn't know if it was real.
If they knew it was fake, why would they call 911 to report a boy playing with a toy gun?

 

[JohnnyMac]

The caller said they didn't know if it was real.
If they knew it was fake, why would they call 911 to report a boy playing with a toy gun?

The caller said it was "probably fake." That is right from the AP story.

Maybe the caller is a grumpy old man who hates kids. Maybe the caller is a racist. Maybe the caller is new to planet Earth and doesn't realize 12 year old boys play with toy guns. Did the caller hear a shot? Did the caller see a wounded civilian? Why would the caller even bother 911 with this crap?

But, why would the police arrive ready to shoot within 2 seconds? Why not establish a perimeter and proceed with caution? Why did the cop park 20 feet from a suspected "gunman?"

This is the case the nation should be up in arms about, not Ferguson.

 

[Willie99]

Do you think a white 12 year old boy gets shot within 2 seconds of the police arriving?

you dodged

I think shit happens, I think people can and do make incredible stupid decisions, and mankind has been suffering from tragedy since the beginning of mankind

I also think it's certain that some white child was killed by officers making bad decisions

I have no real knowledge about the case other than knowing a kid was shot while playing with a fake gun. I don't get it, and there should be more outrage about this case. Why is there not?

 

[Willie99]

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/24/7275297/tamir-rice-police-shooting

read the story here, looks like the cop was unfit for the job, not sure if race mattered

also said officers were not told gun is probably fake

the story is absolutely heartbreaking

 

[MikeB]

It's a terrible story.

A couple of facts though, the Officers were never told that the gun was "fake", or (in another post) "probably fake". The gun did not have the characteristics of a toy gun (bright orange plug).

I don't think people in Cleveland should have been up in arms over that incident though. It was just a tragedy. As sad as it is (was), it was just a tragic series of events that led up to it.

 

[JohnnyMac]

It's a terrible story.

A couple of facts though, the Officers were never told that the gun was "fake", or (in another post) "probably fake". The gun did not have the characteristics of a toy gun (bright orange plug).

I don't think people in Cleveland should have been up in arms over that incident though. It was just a tragedy. As sad as it is (was), it was just a tragic series of events that led up to it.

If the miscommunication was between the dispatcher and the cop, that is on the police dispatcher. But, if the cop really thought that was a real gun, why park right next to the boy? That can't be proper police procedure.

This boy's death wasn't a tragic accident; it was the result of poor policing technique and generalizations made about the kind of kids who live in that neighborhood. A 12 year old boy playing with a toy gun in a wealthy suburban neighborhood doesn't get shot within 2 seconds of the police arriving.

 

[FairWarning]

If the miscommunication was between the dispatcher and the cop, that is on the police dispatcher. But, if the cop really thought that was a real gun, why park right next to the boy? That can't be proper police procedure.

This boy's death wasn't a tragic accident; it was the result of poor policing technique and generalizations made about the kind of kids who live in that neighborhood. A 12 year old boy playing with a toy gun in a wealthy suburban neighborhood doesn't get shot within 2 seconds of the police arriving.

Sooooo what is the proper policing technique in that case, not knowing it was a toy gun? The only generalizations was a person aiming a gun at people and acting gangsta.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Sooooo what is the proper policing technique in that case, not knowing it was a toy gun? The only generalizations was a person aiming a gun at people and acting gangsta.

Forming a perimeter? Using a bullhorn to tell the boy to drop what he had? Not parking right next to someone with a gun and putting yourself in a position to have to make a snap decision?

 

[MikeB]

If the miscommunication was between the dispatcher and the cop, that is on the police dispatcher. But, if the cop really thought that was a real gun, why park right next to the boy? That can't be proper police procedure.

This boy's death wasn't a tragic accident; it was the result of poor policing technique and generalizations made about the kind of kids who live in that neighborhood. A 12 year old boy playing with a toy gun in a wealthy suburban neighborhood doesn't get shot within 2 seconds of the police arriving.

So, your whole argument pretty much hinges upon "why did the cop park 20 feet from a person with a gun?"

I wasn't in the cruiser, I can't answer that. I would think maybe he didn't see him right away with the weapon maybe. Perhaps he thought he was at a safe distance with using the cruiser as a shield maybe. Perhaps he pulled up a little further away and the person with the weapon (turns out it was a replica), came towards the Officer......I don't know....

In the Officers mind though, he was going to a call of a person with a gun in a park where there are innocent people around including children. That takes priority.

 

[Acebb]

Do you think a white 12 year old boy gets shot within 2 seconds of the police arriving?

Maybe, maybe not.

But that isn't some big counter point as white teenagers aren't out committing violent crimes at a rate triple their representation in the population.

So you go on ignoring that elephant in the room.