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Hi everyone,
I hope all is well. For those of you who remember me in the NBA forum, I went on a pretty good streak after the ALL STAR BREAK. My record was documented. I used the double down method. I don't want to go into great details, but will be happy to answer any questions. When I first started my system last season, I had a lot of positive feedback which I used to better my system.
This system takes patience. I need to find the right spot to start betting on or against a team.
All my bets start at $30, if it loses, then $60, if it loses, then $120, if it loses, then that is a system lose.

For those of you who were around last year, you might recall my take on SPREADS.
A spread is there to make the game even.
Vegas does not put out lines of the top of their heads. It is the linesmakers job to come out with the best lines possible. We all sit in front of the computer, researching for hours to find the best bets. Think about it, Vegas linesmakers are doing the same thing. Who are we to think that we are smarter then them. Or that we have access to more information then they do.

My system is simple.
I look at how the teams are doing both SU and ATS for most recently played games, and who their next 3 opponents are. I still handicap the games, but not into so much detail. I put a lot of emphasis on the strength of schedule, both of whom they have just played and who they are about to play.

For example:

Atlanta is at Indiana Wed night.

then Atl plays Utah, then @NY, then Miami.

So let's analyse. Indiana is 1-2 their last 3.
Atl is 2-1 their last 3.
What I'm looking at now is if this is the right spot to bet against Atl. I don't think so, especially since the spread is ATL +14.
I will wait and see the result of this game first. If Atl keeps it close, then I will go against them vs UTAH. Reason is Utah will get a softer line, maybe -7.
If Atl gets smoked, then Utah will get a line around -10, in which case I may not bet. Basically, the situation I am looking for is for Atl to keep it close against Indiana. If Atl could pull out the upset @Indy, then I will definetly bet against Atl vs Utah. I see know way that Atl can cover against Utah, then @NY, and finally vs Miami. Let's say they do cover vs Utah and NY, what line do you think they would get vs Miami? My guess would be Miami -4.

Anyway, I hope this makes sence to everyone, but if you are confused about something, then just ask. All I can say is that I've never felt more confident in my bets then last years second half of the NBA season and the beginning of this year.

In all honousty, I am undocumented, 15-0 on my system picks.
Remember, a system lose is when I lose 3 in a row betting on or against the same team.
lose gm 1 -33
lose gm 2 -66
win gm 3 +120
balance +21
The first reaction out of most of you is, "you only one 21 dollars, and you risked 120 on one bet. That's not a great return."
You're right, but I can't see how this system can lose very often.
Last year, my record was something like 48-2, documented.
So let's say that all my system bets went down to the 3rd game.
I had 48 wins x $21 = $1008
I had 2 loses x -$231= -$462
That's a profit of $538.00
If you started with $60 initial bet, you would have made 538 x2 = $1076.00

Anyway, for those of you who do not know my thread from last year, I apologize for the confusion of this write-up. But again, if you have any questions, please ask and I will try and answer back.

I will begin my picks today.

good luck everyone,
and let's have fun!

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Do you really think the line in the ATLANTA-UTAH game will be UTAH -7 ????

If you do, you are retarded...IMO

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That's a little harsh, don't you think Pete?

Atl just beat Houston. If they beat Indy (I really don't think they will) then the line will be close to 7. If Atl gets blown out by Indy, then the line will be around Utah -12. I'm looking for a "situation" where Atl keeps it close vs Indy. Then they travel home to play Utah. Can you not see a -7 line if Atl beats Indy, @Indy?
I guess time will tell,
good luck to you
 

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looking back on it yes..perhaps a touch harsh..my apologies..


I dont think barring major injury of course tha they line in the Atlanta-Utah game will be even close to Utah -7...I think you will be LUCKY to get anything -10 or less..The HAWKS are BAD and in the NBA bad teams become awful teams when playing on the road......Good luck to you...
 

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>I had 48 wins x $21 = $1008
>I had 2 loses x -$231= -$462
>That's a profit of $538.00
>If you started with $60 initial bet, you would have made 538 x2 = >$1076.00

I tried something like this last year at the end of the season. I got lucky and got a lot of game 1 wins and only had two situations where I doubled for game 2. Some nights I'd turn a profit so I wouldn't bother doubling. I turned a profit and gave it up because it just seemed too insane since any one loss would wipe out my profit.

Anyway, I'm wondering if you kept records of your 48 wins, how many times you won on the first game, how many on the second game, and how many on the third game. The reason I'm asking is if you had enough 2nd and third game wins, I might follow your system but skip game one. If game one loses then I'll bet a single wager on two, and if it loses a double wager on game 3.
Example: if 24 of your wins were from game 2 or 3:
24 X$100=$2400
minus two losses: -$682
Grand Total: $1718

Compared to betting on all 3 games:
48x$100=$4800
minus two losses: $1652
Grand total: $3148

Although in this case betting all 3 games yields more money, betting on game 2 and 3 is less volatile. If you went 44-6 you'd lose $556 betting on all 3 games, and make $154 using the 2 game system(provided half the wins came in the 2nd and 3rd games)

Anyways, I'm curious to see a breakdown of how many of your 48 wins were game 1 wins, game 2 wins, and game 3 wins.

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Pete Rose JR said "The HAWKS are BAD and in the NBA bad teams become awful teams when playing on the road"

If I'm not mistaken the HAWKS/UTAH game on 11/20 is a home game for the HAWKS.


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MIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

You FREAK!! How are you,,,,, I figured you got Lost in the 19th HOLE!!
haha,,,
DUELING FADE FORMULAS,,,haha,,,
You are the Man!! Good Luck you Maniac
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hello Supersharp,

you are absolutely right!
Again, I apologize about my write up. It is not in great detail because I did all the explaining last year. But, to add to my explanation: if the team I bet on wins the first game (+$30), then I don't double down on them the next game. I only double down on lost games. My record last year was documented on all three levels. I believe I only went to the third game( a bet of 120) 6 times.
Anyone wishing to find my posts from last year, I believe can. #1 LEAF FAN was the name I went under. (Tater can vouch for that).
The idea is not to lose 3 in a row. Once the team wins, it's a system win. Hopefully this makes sence.

On to today's picks

ON PORT -3
ON WASH -1.5
ON DET -5
AG G. STATE, TAKING CHI+7

SYSTEM RECORD 0-0
 

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MIke..i hate to keep coming into people's threads..but i am just trying to understand ..you arer saying that if you lose game 1 ..you double down on game 2 ..then if you lose that you then double down to game 3 ? ..if so, you're system losses are for alot more than 2.31 units

gm 1 - bet 110 ot win 100 - Lose 110
gm 2 - bet 231 to win 210 - Lose 231
gm 3 - bet 485 to win 441 - Lose 485

Total loss 8.6 units

not disputing your system just making sure you got yourmath right, cos i am not quite following it.
 

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Mike:

Did you user name used to be "MapleLeaf" or something like that last year?

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Inspades it was "Leaf FAn"

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Player 1,

no worries, I said my system explanation here is vague. Hopefully my picks will do well. As for the math, my initial bet is $30.
therefore if gm 1 loses = -33 ($3 juice)
if gm 2 loses = -66 (33 x 2 = 66)
if gm 3 loses = -132 ( 120 + 12 juice = 132)
total loss would be -33 + -66 + -132 = -231 (which is a system loss)

Understand?

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Hope Your System Is Better Than Some Other People Here. Welcome Fellow Torontonian.
 
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OK start, but nothing to write home about, yet.

2 system wins tonight,

ON WASH WON $+30
ON DET WON $+30

2 system picks pending,

ON PORT LOST $-33, therefore betting $66 on PORTLANDS NEXT GAME
AG G.S. LOST $-33, therefore betting $66 against G.S. their NEXT GAME.

SYSTEM RECORD 2-0, 2 GAMES PENDING
OVERALL RECORD 2-2

BYE FOR NOW
 

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line movement...

mike chad said:
That's a little harsh, don't you think Pete?

Atl just beat Houston. If they beat Indy (I really don't think they will) then the line will be close to 7. If Atl gets blown out by Indy, then the line will be around Utah -12. I'm looking for a "situation" where Atl keeps it close vs Indy. Then they travel home to play Utah. Can you not see a -7 line if Atl beats Indy, @Indy?
I guess time will tell,
I wish you the best of luck with your system and hope it is prosperous for you...

Now on to this line "theory" you have...

I know Vegas lines...

And I can tell you that Vegas already had the Utah line figured out for Saturday (AT Atlanta, by the way) BEFORE this Indiana game, and the result of this Indiana game will have VERY LITTLE to do with Saturday's line...VERY little...No more than 1/2 a point to a point at most...Only injuries to key players are going to move the line as much as you are suggesting...5-point change depending on how close Atlanta keeps it with Indy??...No way...Not a chance...

It'll be Utah's 4th game in 5 nights against Atlanta (they are at Miami on FRI), and unless key players from Utah get hurt or a key Atlanta player gets hurt at practice (because they don't play till SAT), the line will be Utah -6.5...A dismal performance against Miami on FRI might take the line down to -6 or -5.5...

No Way, and I mean NO WAY, Utah is favored by anything close to 10 on Atlanta's Home floor...NO WAY it is even 8 or more...They were only favored by 10.5 at Charlotte and were lucky to win...Atlanta just beat Houston at Home...

Vegas doesn't move lines 3-to-5 points based on a team's performance in ONE GAME...Trust me on that one...It just doesn't happen, especially now that we're just about settled into this season, coming up on Day 17...

Your system is intriguing, as is Tate's, to the point where I may look at some trials on my own...A more conservative twist on "doubling-up"...Very interesting...I have to admit I like the idea...You just have to utilize it correctly and you will be GOLDEN...

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I posted earlier about this line but if you read above I think I made the mistake that the game was in UTAH....Sorry about that...That being said I think the line will be Utah -7.5-8.5...IMO


Good Luck...Brewers7 I ll get back to you in a few minutes...Just on my way to office for a few minutes.....
 

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Yeah Pete, I could tell you thought it was at Utah, where yes, they would be DD FAVs, probably 12 or 13 over Atlanta...

I left my email for you in your WED thread for the 2nd-half lines "thing"...Drop me an email and let me know...No rush...
 

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Hello Mike Chad

Mike - I am new to this forum but something tells me you are a descent capper. What time are you going to post your plays - everday ?

Thanks and have a great season.
 

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