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The Books have made the team totals a little tougher to pick this year. And I really haven't found a big difference between their numbers and my numbers for any team. So I'm not going to throw in any huge plays on any of these. I'll use my star system for strength of play. All plays at 5Dimes.

** Small Play
*** Medium Play
**** Large Play (Best Bet)


USC under 10.5 wins ** (-150)
It's always a big gamble to bet against this team. But the combination of losing 9 starters on defense combined with being in the the tough year of their Pac-10 schedule has me thinking they lose at least one game, maybe two in conference. Or possibly one out of conference (Ohio State or Notre Dame) and one in conference.

Texas Tech under 8 wins *** (-180)
Even VHT QB Graham Harrell struggled in his first year at Tech. Espeically in his road games. So I see QB Potts going through the same growing pains. And I see all 5 TT road games as probable losses. And if you think the OU defense got to Harrell, wait until they get a hold of this new QB. So that game will also be a loss. Even if TT can get by non-BCS Houston early in the season, they'll still need to beat Baylor at Jerry's World in Arlington in the last game of the year to even get to 8 wins. And TT had all kinds of problems with Baylor last season after OU softened the Red Raiders up the week before. TT loses a couple excellent lockdown covers in their defensive backfield. Plus they lost yet another starter on the D-Line in the offseason. So without a pass rush and inexperiece in the D-Backfield, they may not even get past Kansas and their dangerous QB Reesing when they come calling in Lubbock. TT just barely becomes bowl eligible this season going 6-6 or 7-5 at best.


Auburn under 7.5 wins *** (-225)
Although a rule not set in stone, the longer a coach was in one place like Tuberville was at Auburn, the harder it is to put in a new system. And another thing that none of us are sure of is if Gene Chizik is a step up or a step down from Tuberville. In any case, that's a lot of ifs. And despite starting their first 4 games at home, their games with La Tech and West Va are far from gimmes. I can this team winning as many as 7 games this year. But i can also see them going 4-8. It's probably going to end up somewhere in between.


Arizona St. under 6.5 wins ** (-120)
Although I have great respect for Dennis Erickson, and he sounded very positive when I recently saw him interviewed about this upcoming season, I think it's their schedule and the general improvement of the rest of the Pac-10 teams under USC that is probably going to be their undoing this season. What makes me negative about this team is they basically had everything go their way last season and couldn't get it done. They benefited from +5 TO margin and lost very few players to injury. So there was basically no excuses for their 5-7 record. They basically have the same kind of schedule this year, but with the exception of Washington St, every road team they play this season will be improved over last. I still think this play will be close. If it was at 6 instead of 6.5 I wouldn't have played it.


Texas over 10 wins ** (-155)
I can see Texas losing to OU or OSU, but not both. Missouri would have to be considered a game of concern since it will be a sandwich game between OU and OSU. But Texas has traditionally played very well the week after the Red River Rivalry. The only other road game where they'll have to bring their B game or better will be at Baylor. But Texas wins 10 games pretty much every year. The worst outcome i can see for this bet is a tie. Their easy non-conference shcedule where they can rest up their first unit players and give their reserves much needed playing time will only help this team and make them stronger going into Big 12 play. But if Colt McCoy goes down all bets are off.


UCONN under 6.5 wins (-240)
Even though they went 8-5 last season, UCONN really wasn't all that strong of a team. With the exception of the Cincinnati game in which Cincy lost their QB and lost the game, UCONN basically lost to everybody they were suppose to lose to. The rest of their wins came against teams with losing records. Unlike last season, UCONN starts this year out with 3 pretty tough games at Ohio (possible MAC frontrunner), North Carolina and then at Baylor. All improved teams who will more than likely have winning records this year. Then they have to go to Pitt, WV, Cincy (revenge game for Bearcats) and Notre Dame. The only winnable games this year will be against Ohio, Louisville, Syracuse, Rhode Island. In order to get to 7 wins and beat this bet they'll have to win those 5 games and then knock off USF and Rutgers at home. With just 12 starters back and coach Edsall going to a new hurry up/no huddle offense, I see struggles on both sides of the ball. Especially since the strength of their team, their defense, will probably be out on the field longer than they're used to under this new system.

Iowa over 8 wins ** (-125)
I've always liked teams who were so consistent and so good on defense that even the games they lost were close games. In their 4 losses last season, Iowa never got beat by more than 5 points. And now return the bulk of their team. They lose Greene, but retain most of their defense, QB and a very good special teams unit. They do have 3 tough games at penn St., OSU and Michigan St. But I believe the rest of their games are very winnable. And I also think the Hawkeyes are going to upset either PSU or OSU and send this conference into a 2 or 3 way tie. 9 or 10 wins looks very doable to me.

Missouri under 7.5 wins ** (-225)
I think the house of cards are going to come crumbling down for this team this year. With just 9 starters back, they lose too many longtime 3 and 4 year starters who were the real backbone of this team. My personal belief is that the team leadership from veterans like Chase Daniel, Chase Coffman, and the early departure of Jeremy Machlin can not be repalced in one season. These guys are the glue that held this team together despite having what i consider a mediocre coach. Plus Mizzou will be dealing with the departures of their OC and DC's this season. So they will definitely be starting over. Plus they get only 6 true home games this season bookend by two neutral site games to start and end the season against what will be two good teams in Illinois and Kansas. I have to admit, I'm not 100% sure what to expect from this team. There are so many people on these boards talking negative about them, that this alone could be enough incentive for this team to win a game or two that they aren't supposed to win. But i also think they could lose a couple that they'll be favored in. Maybe at Nevada and at home to Nebraska. But with just 9 starters back and a new QB I think even if they had a great coach in their corner, 8 games wouldn't be easy to make.


That's it for now. I'm still looking at a couple more teams. Arkansas for one. But I haven't seen this team listed in any of my books.
 

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Arky is a total I am curious to see also. Any feel on Ole Miss at 9? Now they are the hot team. Thinking under here. They are the big dog now and not sure they can win 10 for the loss.
 

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I wasn't going to play Az St, but after seeing your writeup and looking again at their schedule, I may add it soon with reasonable juice, under 6.5 looks like a solid bet.

The only play you have that I don't agree with is Iowa over 8 for I don't like their road schedule. They look like an 9-3, 8-4, 7-5 team.

Texas over 10 is a no play since I already have a few under plays with teams on the UT schedule.

As usual, nice writeups and GL.
 

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Arky is a total I am curious to see also. Any feel on Ole Miss at 9? Now they are the hot team. Thinking under here. They are the big dog now and not sure they can win 10 for the loss.
FW...If Arky comes up on the board, i would like to see them at 7 wins or less. In that case I would have to go with the over. Not sure though if we can get that good of a number with this team with everybody expecting improvement in Petrino's second year. As for Ole Miss I have mixed feelings. Although I like Houston Nutt as a coach, he never really has had what i would call one of those outstanding seasons. I'm also not sure what Ole Miss is going to be able to do in the favorites role with not being able to sneek up on the SEC. I also think that maybe a little too much was made of their win over Texas tech in the Cotton Bowl. Texas Tech didn't end the year well with a loss at OU and a near loss to baylor. Plus TT has always been a team who has struggled in bowls against decent teams. Mainly because of the month these teams have to prepare for Tech's offense. And OU dominated TT much more than Ole Miss did. Those last 5 wins of the season for Ole Miss were either against teams who were struggling or had losing records. They have a lot of momentum coming into this season, but I'm just not 100% sure they are for real and a cut above teams like LSU and Bama.
 

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I wasn't going to play Az St, but after seeing your writeup and looking again at their schedule, I may add it soon with reasonable juice, under 6.5 looks like a solid bet.

The only play you have that I don't agree with is Iowa over 8 for I don't like their road schedule. They look like an 9-3, 8-4, 7-5 team.

Texas over 10 is a no play since I already have a few under plays with teams on the UT schedule.

As usual, nice writeups and GL.
Woff...The main reason that I like Texas is because I think they can win the whole enchilada this year. As a rule, whenever Texas has had a good QB combined with a good offensive line, they've always managed to win 10 games or more in a season. As their offense goes, so goes their team. Their defense has been pretty solid for the last few years. It should be once again in Muschamp's second season. Especially their pass defense. Which is a must in the Big 12. I've also got McCoy at +325 to win the Heisman. He should have won it last year. But if he gets hurt, i lose both of these bets. As for Iowa, I see no dominant team this year in the Big 10. So the race is wide open. Considering the personnel they have returning, I think the worst I'll get there is a tie.
 

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I really like Auburn Under 7.5 wins. They have a difficult conference schedule this year: On the rd vs Tenn, Ark, Lsu, Georgia and home vs Wvu, Ole Miss, Bama. It will take some time for the New Malzon system to take place and Chizik for Tuberville was absolutely crazy.
 

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I really like Auburn Under 7.5 wins. They have a difficult conference schedule this year: On the rd vs Tenn, Ark, Lsu, Georgia and home vs Wvu, Ole Miss, Bama. It will take some time for the New Malzon system to take place and Chizik for Tuberville was absolutely crazy.
When you look at the work that Chizik has in front of him, and the drastic changes that they are sure to make under OC Malzahn, it's hard to believe he could raise this team above .500. Like i said, it's not easy taking over a program from a longtime coach. Look at the problems Rich Rodriguez had last year in place of Carr. Even a great coach like Petrino taking over for Houston Nutt didn't get to .500. Mike Sherman at Texas A&M also had problems in his first year at Texas A&M. Paul Johnson at Ga Tech was the only exception to the rule. But he is an exceptional coach who took over a pretty talented team. You don't usually get that good of a team very often when a longtime coach has been lead out the door or quit under bad circumstances. Stewart did a decent job of taking over for Rich Rod last season. But that was an in-house hire. Much different than a complete outsider coming in and making drastic changes.. Auburn doesn't have the kind of talent. Especially on offense. And unlike Johnson, Chizik is still an unproven head coach.
 

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I understand your reasoning but the juice is ridiculous...if you lose just one of auburn, mizz, or uconn you need to go 4-1 on the rest to make any profit...this is college football, players come out of nowhere (pat white was playing behind adam bednarik and steve slaton behind jason colson and jason gwaltney and were literally unknown the first 3 games of 2005!!!)...kind of backing yourself in a corner imo

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I understand your reasoning but the juice is ridiculous...if you lose just one of auburn, mizz, or uconn you need to go 4-1 on the rest to make any profit...this is college football, players come out of nowhere (pat white was playing behind adam bednarik and steve slaton behind jason colson and jason gwaltney and were literally unknown the first 3 games of 2005!!!)...kind of backing yourself in a corner imo

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Trent...The juice is high with good reason for some of these teams. But I am still waiting for a few more team totals to go my way that should have better juice to even things out. Good find on Notre Dame 8.5. Unfortunatly none of my books are offering that number. But I'll be on the lookout for it.
 

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considered adding TTU and Mizzou under myself as well, like everything you have besides USC, seems pretty risky imo
 

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FW...If Arky comes up on the board, i would like to see them at 7 wins or less. In that case I would have to go with the over. Not sure though if we can get that good of a number with this team with everybody expecting improvement in Petrino's second year. As for Ole Miss I have mixed feelings. Although I like Houston Nutt as a coach, he never really has had what i would call one of those outstanding seasons. I'm also not sure what Ole Miss is going to be able to do in the favorites role with not being able to sneek up on the SEC. I also think that maybe a little too much was made of their win over Texas tech in the Cotton Bowl. Texas Tech didn't end the year well with a loss at OU and a near loss to baylor. Plus TT has always been a team who has struggled in bowls against decent teams. Mainly because of the month these teams have to prepare for Tech's offense. And OU dominated TT much more than Ole Miss did. Those last 5 wins of the season for Ole Miss were either against teams who were struggling or had losing records. They have a lot of momentum coming into this season, but I'm just not 100% sure they are for real and a cut above teams like LSU and Bama.

Thanks. That is how I see Ole Miss also. I will roll dice on the under.
 

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Have you looked at Texas Tech's schedule?
Yes I have. I see 5 road games against what will probably be all bowl teams. And I see 2 games they could lose at home against Kansas and OU. I see an offensive line that won't be as good as last season, and trying to protect a new QB. And TT better find a pass rush and a kicker too.
 

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Auburn under is a safe wager, even though you are laying a rediculous number, and anything can happen in college football. I see Auburn losing all four road games, plus home games to West Virginia, Mississippi, and Alabama. That makes them a 5-7 team, giving you plenty of wiggle room.

Iowa, IMO, does not win a road game this year except at Iowa State. That gives them 4 losses. I think this team is one of the easiest to predict. 8-4 for a push for you.

Texas Tech will lose to the Big 3 in the Big 12 South, and Nebraska. There is your 4 losses. Thenyou have additional games at home against Kansas, at Houston, and Baylor, in Arlington. Thinking that T-Tech willlose one of tose games is being realistic. I can see this wager.

Arizona State will have 4 away losses, so you are betting that they lose two home games to Oregon State, Cal, USC, and Arizona. They could lose all 4. But this is the Pac 10, and anything can happen this year. While this looks like a good wager, don't be suprised if ASU pulls an upset or two.
 

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Auburn under is a safe wager, even though you are laying a rediculous number, and anything can happen in college football. I see Auburn losing all four road games, plus home games to West Virginia, Mississippi, and Alabama. That makes them a 5-7 team, giving you plenty of wiggle room.

Iowa, IMO, does not win a road game this year except at Iowa State. That gives them 4 losses. I think this team is one of the easiest to predict. 8-4 for a push for you.

Texas Tech will lose to the Big 3 in the Big 12 South, and Nebraska. There is your 4 losses. Thenyou have additional games at home against Kansas, at Houston, and Baylor, in Arlington. Thinking that T-Tech willlose one of tose games is being realistic. I can see this wager.

Arizona State will have 4 away losses, so you are betting that they lose two home games to Oregon State, Cal, USC, and Arizona. They could lose all 4. But this is the Pac 10, and anything can happen this year. While this looks like a good wager, don't be suprised if ASU pulls an upset or two.
I'm not happy about the juice with Auburn and UCONN. But in my other books I'm losing my .5 advantage by taking reduced juice, which in the case of these teams is huge imo. I do have a couple more prospects I'm looking at where I'm going more against the public and may even have + juice. Naturally, I disagree with you about Iowa. I think the Big 10 will be a very close race this season between more than just Penn St and OSU, and we could see something like what we saw in the Big 12 south last year... Out of Iowa's 3 tough road games vs OSU, Penn St and Mich. St. I look for them to get at least one upset there.
 

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I do my wagering in Vegas, almost exclusively, and here is who I am going to take today, other than the above mentioned Auburn Under.

Purdue Under 5 1/2. Just who do they beat? Toledo and Northern Illinois are two possibilities, but they have sure losses at Oregon and home to Notre Dame. Are you telling me that this team, with huge losses on offense, a terrible defense, and a new coach can go 4-4 in the Big 10?

Notre Dame over 8 1/2. I know, it's Notre Dame and Fat Charlie and a record of ineptness, but look at the schedule. Even assuming they lose to USC, who is their left? Well, their is Michigan State, and the jinx they carry on the Irish, even though MSU lost a ton on offense. Their is Pitt, but Notre Dame loves to play at Pitt. People will say Boston College, but this team has lost way too much and will not contend in the ACC. Anybody else? Even with a slip, the Irish should be no worse than 10-2, and I get an extra game in my safety net.

Penn State over 9 1/2. Again, who do they play? Their non-con schedule comes straight out of the bakery. Four nice and fluffy cream puffs. This team has a better chance of going undefeated than losing 3 games in the Big 10, which is what would have to happen if they go under this number.
 

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I domy wagering in Vegas,almosexclusively, and here is who I am going to take today, other than the above mentioned Auburn Under.

Purdue Under 5 1/2. Just who do they beat? Toledo and Northern Illinois are two possibilities, but they have sure losses at Oregon and home to Notre Dame. Are you telling me that this team, with huge losses on offense, a terrible defense, and a new coach can go 4-4 in the Big 10?

Notre Dame over 8 1/2. I know, it's Notre Dame and Fat Charlie and a record of ineptness, but look at the schedule. Even assuming they lose to USC, wo is their left? Well, their is Michigan State, and the jinx they carry on the Irish, even though MSU lost a ton on offense. Their is Pitt,but Notre DAmeloves to play at Pitt. Peoplewill say BostonCollege, but this team has lost way too much and will not contend in the ACC. Anybody else? Evenwith a slip, the Irish shoujld be no worse than 10-2, and I get an extra game in my safety net.

Penn State over 9 1/2. Again, who do they play? Their non-con schedule comes straight out of the bakery. Four nice and fluffy cream puffs. This team has a better chance of going undefeated than losing 3 games in the Big 10, which is what would have to happen if they go under this number.
Where are you seeing ND at 8.5? I noticed Trentmoney got that number last night. I'm not seeing it in any of my books or else i would be getting it too. I don't like Penn St. over 9.5. This is a team with just 9 starters returning. My bet is they are going to lose a home game this year. Maybe 2. And then they have 3 road games vs Michigan, Michigan. St. and Illinois. All three of those teams could be improved enough to beat PSU. I would like PSU at 9 alot more than 9.5...I would almost rather pay the juice on that team to get the .5... I like your Purdue play, and in fact this is one of the teams I'm looking at. I love betting against teams who have lost a longtime coach. Plus 2 new coordinators. And only 12 starters back..
 

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Whether or not juice is too high depends on the wagering opportunity thats presented.

If Northwestern was posted this season at 11.5 wins at under -900 juice the juice wouldnt be too high.
 

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Unlike the NFL, there is no exact formula for what a 1/2 of win or loss is worth for college regular season totals. Therefore, you must shop until you drop. Many offscreen books have a regional bias, depending on what part of the country their main player base is from(you would be surprised!). You are never wrong following strict ROI guidelines. Good Luck
 

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