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It looks like with Texas losing to Tech, the Big 12 South and possibly the BCS is going to be turned upside down. I think the question now is who goes to the Big 12 Championship Game if we should end up with a two or three team tie. Here's how I break it down:

Oklahoma: For the Sooners to go, their going to have to hope for a three way tie. Because of OU's more difficult schedule they should win out over the other two teams and make it in. However, if it comes down to just OU and Texas, Texas would go because they won the head to head with OU. So bottom line is for OU to make it to the Big 12 CCG their going to have to hope for a three way tie.

Texas: The Horns need to hope for an OSU win over Texas Tech next week. And then for OU to beat TT the next week at home. And then OU to beat OSU in Stillwater. That would leave OU and Texas with one loss. So from what I'm led to believe, if it's just two teams that are left, it won't be the one who is rated higher in the BCS, but the one team who won the head to head, which in this case would be Texas. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here. But this is how I understand it works when just two teams are involved.

Texas Tech: Tech basically needs to win out the rest of the way. With their weak schedule, they wouldn't be the highest rated BCS team if there should be a three way tie. This is the only team of the four who still controls their own desitny.

OSU: Okie Lite needs to win at Texas Tech next week. Then beat OU at home. And hope Texas loses on the road to Kansas, since a head to head with Texas means Texas goes.

What is going to be interesting is what the other teams around the country do. With 4 Big 12 teams in the top 8, I still think the chances of a Big 12 team making it to the Championship are pretty good. But we do have to hope for a Bama loss somewhere down the line. Either in the regular season or in the SEC Championship game. If they do, then this is where the politicking in the polls comes in. And it's not completely out of the question that either OU, Texas Tech or Texas makes it to the Big 12 Championship game and loses, and then the team who didn't even play in it moves up in the BCS polls and sneaks into the Championship Game. I've seen stranger things happen. Many things would have to happen for this scenerio. Penn State losing for one.. But you know at least one or two top ranked teams get upset in November every year. So it's not beyond the realm of possibilty....I'm starting my thread early this week because I see a play I want to jump on while the number is still good.



OSU (+3.5) over Texas Tech ***

I'm not sure exactly what this line is going to do. But I want to get it in early while I feel like it still favors my play. We have two teams with comparable defenses. But I feel like OSU is the much more balanced team on offense. One of the big reasons why Tech was able to beat Texas was the Horns lack of a having a serious run threat. TT was able to rush just 4 men and keep 7 back to protect against the long play. So they basically made Texas have to drive the length of the field every drive. The difference between Texas and OSU is Texas don't have a quick and bruising runner like Kendall Hunter, who is by far the best RB in the Big 12 right now. If the Texas defense had trouble with this kid, you know TT will. He'll be an important tool here because he'll keep TT's offense off of the field. And because TT will have to defend the run, it's going to leave the TT defenders one on one with Dez Bryant, and a now fully healthy Brandon Pettigrew. If TT thought they had problems covering Texas WR Shipley, their going to have double the trouble against Dez Bryant. I realize that TT's offense is playing at a high level right now. But defensively, TT has historically had problems against balanced offenses. And after coming off a big emotional national television win, I feel like the the Red Raiders could be a little flat for this game. OSU is coming off an easy win over ISU. This is a confident OSU team that feels like they should have beat Texas. And like I told you guys last week, I think this OSU team is a top 5 team in the country. In my opinion Texas Tech isn't. I like the Pokes here....


 

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Glad that we both saw the Oklahoma ass whooping coming against NU. I agree with OK State. The Cowboys run offense is going to keep the TTU defense on tilt the whole day, and Robinson-Bryant is one of the best connections in the country. I'm liking the Pokes straight up here.
 

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I just question whether TTU can get up again for this game AND it's an early kickoff. As much as I needed TTU to beat UT, now I need them to lose. Go Pokes!
 

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I 100% disagree with this pick. If Okie State doesn't win this game, their chances of covering are slim. Texas Tech is a bitch to beat in Lubbock.
 

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I just question whether TTU can get up again for this game AND it's an early kickoff. As much as I needed TTU to beat UT, now I need them to lose. Go Pokes!
From what I heard today, this will be a night game.
 

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I 100% disagree with this pick. If Okie State doesn't win this game, their chances of covering are slim. Texas Tech is a bitch to beat in Lubbock.
Don't you get It? He has already placed his wager. There is no looking back in his mind. If you like the other side, start a thread. What are you trying to prove? Over/under on the # of times you come back in GoSooners thread before Saturday's kick-off, 14.5. Good Luck
 

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I 100% disagree with this pick. If Okie State doesn't win this game, their chances of covering are slim. Texas Tech is a bitch to beat in Lubbock.
When it comes to the top 4 teams in the Big 12 South, I don't think your going to find a whole lot of difference. And I don't need to crunch any numbers..I've seen enough of both of these teams this year to know that OSU is the play here. So far we've had three games between the top 4 teams:

Texas (+7) vs OU (Texas covered)
OSU (+11) vs Texas (OSU covered)
Texas Tech (+3) vs Texas (Texas Tech covered)

OSU lost by 4 to Texas...Do you think Texas Tech is a better team than Texas? I don't.
 

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OSU lost by 4 to Texas...Do you think Texas Tech is a better team than Texas? I don't.

I sure do. They outgained Texas by about 200 yards in that game. It is amazing to me that they did not beat Texas worse than they did. It was clear as day who the better team was to me. On the flip side, Texas outgained Oklahoma State by around 100 yards. I think Oklahoma State is the overrated team here, but hey that's why they call it gambling. I could be totally off-base here. Wouldn't be the first or last time!
 

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Don't you get It? He has already placed his wager. There is no looking back in his mind. If you like the other side, start a thread. What are you trying to prove? Over/under on the # of times you come back in GoSooners thread before Saturday's kick-off, 14.5. Good Luck

The last time i checked the purpose of this forum is to debate games. Not pat everyone on the back and tell them how great they are. I have been very complimentary of GoSooners, and I don't think any less of him because I disagree with him in this particular instance.
 

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A good rule of thumb is to bet against a team if they play a week following a game where their crowd rushes the field. I like Oklahoma State in this matchup for other reasons, but the crowd-on-the-field angle adds a little extra.
 

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I sure do. They outgained Texas by about 200 yards in that game. It is amazing to me that they did not beat Texas worse than they did. It was clear as day who the better team was to me. On the flip side, Texas outgained Oklahoma State by around 100 yards. I think Oklahoma State is the overrated team here, but hey that's why the call it gambling. You could be right.
Your not taking into account that Texas was coming into the 4th game of the hardest 4 game stretch in NCAA history. They were also nicked up on defense. And lost Cosby in the game. And he was a very valuable weapon on their offense. Despite that, Texas had this Texas Tech defense reeling in the second half despite having a big lead. And they had that lead because Texas came out flat in that game. ND...I'm really surprised you feel this way after watching these two teams. This isn't just about the numbers. It's about matchups. My bet is if Texas had played Texas Tech in the first leg of their four game stretch, they would have easily won.
 

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The matchup i really like in this game is the Texas Tech OL vs. the Okie State DL. Texas Tech dropped 710 yards on this D last year. Expect more of the same this year with 10 starters back on the offense for TTU.
 

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The matchup i really like in this game is the Texas Tech OL vs. the Okie State DL. Texas Tech dropped 710 yards on this D last year. Expect more of the same this year with 10 starters back on the offense for TTU.
Then you should like the OVER play no matter what they set it at.
 

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Your not taking into account that Texas was coming into the 4th game of the hardest 4 game stretch in NCAA history. They were also nicked up on defense. And lost Cosby in the game. And he was a very valuable weapon on their offense. Despite that, Texas had this Texas Tech defense reeling in the second half despite having a big lead. And they had that lead because Texas came out flat in that game. ND...I'm really surprised you feel this way after watching these two teams. This isn't just about the numbers. It's about matchups. My bet is if Texas had played Texas Tech in the first leg of their four game stretch, they would have easily won.

I couldn't agree more.

Your reasoning is sound. I very much subscribe to the situational angle here.
Last week was a very emotional high for Tech as was somewhat of a letdown for Texas. Texas was almost good enough to pull this last one out despite being flat. Now the roles will be reversed this coming week with Texas Tech in the emotional letdown mode... I'm hoping most people disagree with you so I can get a better number.

Keep up the good work!

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I couldn't agree more.

Your reasoning is sound. I very much subscribe to the situational angle here.
Last week was a very emotional high for Tech as was somewhat of a letdown for Texas. Texas was almost good enough to pull this last one out despite being flat. Now the roles will be reversed this coming week with Texas Tech in the emotional letdown mode... I'm hoping most people disagree with you so I can get a better number.

Keep up the good work!

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If Oklahoma State was unranked and Texas Tech had not lost to the Pokes last year, i'd buy this logic. But, Okie State is a highly rated team, and there is revenge from last year here as well for the Red Raiders, so I'd be surprised if Tech came out flat. I certainly would not bank on that at all in the handicapping of this game. A lot of people thought Texas would come out flat against Missouri after beating Oklahoma and look what happened there.
 

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Fellas....I can tell you this much about the game. Mark my words, this game will deterim who goes to the Big 12 Championship Game. If OSU wins, then I believe Texas will get in. If Texas Tech wins, then I think Texas Tech gets in no matter what happens when they travel to OU. Because I believe OSU will beat OU when they go to Stillwater......Just my 2 cents.
 

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Then you should like the OVER play no matter what they set it at.

I don't think they can set it high enough. What was it last year, 49-45?? It should be a shootout. I know Oklahoma State will not slow down Tech much because their DL will lose the battle against the massive and talented Tech OL. If Okie State digs an early hole, they may have to rely on their passing game more than usual this week which should lengthen the game and inflate the total.
 

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