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Gotta love this woman. Gotta love that Affirmative Action political process too (can't count the number of times I've heard someone sticking up for Rice by implying that the person criticising her was racist, sexist or both.)

WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice yesterday set out ambitious goals for the Bush administration's push for greater democracy overseas over the next four years, including pressing for competitive presidential elections this year in Egypt and women's right to vote in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries.

Rice, in an interview with Washington Post editors and reporters, said she was guided less by a fear that Islamic extremists would replace authoritarian governments than by a "strong certainty that the Middle East was not going to stay stable anyway." Extremism, she said, is rooted in the "absence of other channels for political activity," and so "when you know that the status quo is no longer defensible, then you have to be willing to move in another direction."

That's right folks. Of course it's hardly news for a Bush administration member to be touting the idea that it is America's job to export democracy, but from the same article:

"In the hemisphere there's a gap between economies that are growing and the status of people, and it's leading to fertile ground for populism," Rice said. She added there are "very strong signs" that Venezuela — headed by a president, Hugo Chavez, who makes clear his disdain for the Bush administration — is interfering in the affairs of Colombia and other countries.

The secretary defended the administration's decision to sell F-16s to Pakistan, even though it is run by a military leader who ousted an elected government in a bloodless coup. Under Gen. Pervez Musharraf, "Pakistan has come a long way, it's on a better trajectory than it's ever been, or that it's been in many, many years," she said.

You see, it's America's duty to spread democracy through the world, except for those democracies with which we disagree, or military dictatorships with which we do agree. Clearly Venezuela is setting a terrible example for the world by interfering in the affairs of other sovereign nations.

I think she sums it up best when expressing her concerns about Russia's state of affairs.

"It's very important that Russia not get isolated," she said, adding that Russian cooperation during the Kyrgyzstan revolution has been much better after the tensions over the Ukrainian elections last year. "We don't need a new dividing line on the other side of the Ukraine."

Yes, one thing I have always admired about the current administration and Rice in particular is their long-term commitment to preventing isolationism and political divisiveness.

(full article is here)

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God help us all if she was to be elected President in 2008 ...

Melbourne and Fosters beer would be on the agenda!
 

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Rice for President

The movement has started - there is hope for our future!

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She surely would win if she runs because she would unlock
the Dem's stranglehold on the Black vote without which
they could not come close to winning a dogcatcher election.

Further, the liberal media would be hard-pressed to
distort and lie ala Dan Rather because it would risk exposing
their true racial bias which they exploit by promoting idiots
like Jesse Jackson.

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Pal, she ain't gonna win sheot. Beetch is a frikken nutjob. Ain't gonna run and u should thank your lucky stars. I realize it's hard, but tone down on the goddamn idiot talk.
 
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Math:

That is funny ... I cant think of a worse candidate for the office ... hell, I would vote for Cheney over her!
 
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lol no you wouldnt youre such a liar. id vote for hitlers clone over cheney
 
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Hilary v. Condi in 2008? Oh my god. Guaranteed a bîtch in the White House?? Middle America would fall in on itself.
 

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RobFunk:

You couldn't as Cheyney is Hitler's clone.:lolBIG:
 
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give'us a kiss then
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Anyone else considering getting completely **** faced if this was to happen????

Condi Rice as President?? OMG ... that is almost as funny as RoseAnne Barr being a centerfold in Playboy ....
 

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The feeble-minded have emerged. Crawl back under your

respective rocks.
 

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MathProf said:
The feeble-minded have emerged. Crawl back under your

respective rocks.

are you suggesting that Condi :finger: go back under her rock?
 

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xpanda said:
Hilary v. Condi in 2008? Oh my god. Guaranteed a bîtch in the White House?? Middle America would fall in on itself.

Middle America consistently votes for women when they run for office. One of the first times I voted in Kansas there was a woman running for Governor, one for Senate, and one for the House of Reps. All three won. If Condi runs and loses it will be because of her competence, not her gender.

Didn't she say she wasn't running in 2008 though?
 
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But for Prez? I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the local trailer park if that campaign got underway ...

But, yes, Condi said she wouldn't run. I happen to think Hilary won't run, either.
 

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I happen to think Hilary won't run, either.

I would bet the house that she will. She has been positioning herself as a centrist Democrat for a long time now, and she is easily the best candidate the Democrats have at this time. We will see what the next 2 years bring, but the only candidate that could beat her would be Biden or one of the middle America governors, IMO. What makes you think she won't run?
 
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Don't get me wrong, I don't think she doesn't want to, I just don't think the Party will nominate her. The people that hate her, really hate her. It's venomous. There is no way she would bring over the swing vote. Someone like Leiberman (sp?), on the other hand, might be able to.

So I suppose I worded myself poorly before. She'll run, but for Democratic Nominee, not President. Just a guess.
 

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she could never win because even if she picked up the black vote she would lose the stronghold on the south and other good ol boys that would not vote for her because she is black. also most of your other minorities would not vote for a black woman.
 
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doc mercer said:
OMG ... that is almost as funny as RoseAnne Barr being a centerfold in Playboy ....

My mind can't even go into that dark corner.
 

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Fair enough. I think she has a good chance of getting the nomination, those Democrats who are/were Deaniacs will come to understand, as Hillary has, that you have to run to the center to be Prez. Hillary has first hand experience, her husband wrote the book, to his credit. Condi won't run, so those savants out there deriding her mental faculties can take a breath.
 
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Hobbes said:
Condi won't run, so those savants out there deriding her mental faculties can take a breath.

I actually have respect for Condi. I think her views are off the map, but I respect her educational and employment backgrounds, and her positions at least seem genuine (if sometimes a wee bit ass-kissy.) Hillary, I think, is a political whore. She stands for whatever she needs to, period. I think it would be suicide for the Dems to nominate her.

But then again, this opinion is informed primarily by what I read in forums and blogs and such. I just read alot of people not liking Hillary at all.
 

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