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Yes the attention focused on Missouri at this time have been a distraction from other more relevent matters. Immigration, the border, the scandals et al. I happened on to this and it really made me scratch my head. Think about the timing of this in relation to the Bergdahl trade etc.

On 3/4/2014 Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David Cohen appeared be fore the Center for a New American Security speaking on "Confronting New Threats in Terrorist Financing."

This statement is taken from that presentation:

"If we are going to successfully combat terrorist financing – especially in North Africa and Yemen – we must do a better job of preventing terrorist groups from successfully using kidnapping to raise money. We have a multi-faceted approach to do this."



"First is prevention. We are working closely with international counterparts to develop and implement best practices for governments and companies to reduce the risk that their citizens and employees are kidnapped in the first place. Some kidnappings could be prevented if relatively easy precautions were taken to, in effect, harden the target. We are exploring whether the structure and terms of insurance for businesses operating in high-risk areas could be modified to create additional incentives to implement these best practices."



"We know, however, that even the best efforts at prevention are not failsafe. So we are also working to reduce the underlying incentive to take hostages by encouraging governments to refrain from making concessions to terrorists. Refusing to pay ransoms or to accede to other terrorist demands is the surest way to convince potential hostage-takers that they will not be rewarded for their crime."



"This has been U.S. policy for many years. The U.S. government will not pay ransoms or make other concessions to hostage-takers. Although this may appear to be cold-hearted and is often agonizingly difficult to sustain in practice, plain logic and long experience demonstrate that this policy has led to fewer Americans being taken hostage, which protects the safety and security of our citizens around the world. We are not alone in this approach; the UK, for example, also steadfastly adheres to a no-concessions policy. Yet, despite the evidence indicating that kidnappers prefer not to take hostages who are citizens of countries that refuse to pay ransoms, not all countries have adopted this position. "


That was made in March 2014. Bergdahl was released 5/31/2014. So you can see what the policy was as stated above. It has never been clarified that the U.S did or did not pay a ransom in addition to making the prisoner trade. I guess that follows the pattern of transparency in the current Administration. We do know Obama authorized the trade without consulting with Congress. If a ransom was paid it had to be authorized by Obama, it was solely his deal. So if we paid a ransom that was against U.S. policy as stated above. At the very least it needs to be established if a ransom was paid. If so Obama not only exceeded his powers in making the trade and by passing Congress he also violated our policy if he paid an additional ransom. If he paid a ransom for one person why not others.

I have never seen any thing addressing this issue but if Obama's administration is all about transparency it needs to open up about the Bergdahl deal and clear up whether or not a ransom was paid. Again, if a ransom was paid without Congress approving it would that be grounds for impeachment etc. I am sick and tired of this guy exceeding his powers. A POTUS leads by example and he violated our policy concerning ransoms what message does that send.
 

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“The Haqqanis could give a rat’s ass about prisoners,” the official said, referring to the Haqqani Network, a designated terrorist group in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the five Guantanamo Bay prisoners who were freed in exchange for Bergdahl’s release.
“The people that are holding Bergdahl want[ed] cash and someone paid it to them,” he said…
Only one of the freed terrorists, Nabi Omari, was part of the Haqqani Network. But the presence of other more senior Haqqani prisoners at Guantanamo has observers wondering whether the network’s goal in the exchange was actually the release of Gitmo prisoners.
“One of these things doesn’t belong,” the intelligence official said. “If you were to put one of these [freed Taliban prisoners] with Haqqani in a room together, they’d beat the shit out of each other.”…
Haqqani, he said, “benefits zero from the prisoner exchange. … Based on 10 years of working with those guys, the only thing that would make them move Bergdahl is money.”
 

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The Obama administration didn't tell Congress of the releases. Under law, the White House has to give a 30-day notice to Capitol Hill before any terrorists are transferred from Guantanamo.
Believing that his health was deteriorating, the administration said it acted quickly to save his life.
 

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It is way beyond caring it is all about what is right (correct) and what is wrong (incorrect). That is different than the politcal right and left. In this case this was just wrong. But if we paid a ransom in addition to trading the gitmo guys then it is a lie. Not just another lie, possibly one that could/should have consequences. I have mentioned many times about how many books will be coming out exposing Obama. Look for one that deals with this Bergdahl trade. Wish I had the time I would love to beat the bushes on that one.
 

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The highest levels of our military agreed that this was the right decision simply because we never leave any soldier behind. No one really cares about this issue because people don't care that we traded 5 useless humans for an American soldier. Even if he is a possible traitor and deserves life in prison.
 

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The highest levels of our military agreed that this was the right decision simply because we never leave any soldier behind. No one really cares about this issue because people don't care that we traded 5 useless humans for an American soldier. Even if he is a possible traitor and deserves life in prison.

Note the concern with the rule of law.

As to your idiotic contention about "highest levels of military" agreeing:

To pull off the prisoner swap of five Taliban leaders for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the White House overrode an existing interagency process charged with debating the transfer of Guantanamo Bay prisoners and dismissed long-standing Pentagon and intelligence community concerns based on Top Secret intelligence about the dangers of releasing the five men, sources familiar with the debate tell TIME.

http://time.com/2818827/taliban-bergdahl-pow-release-objections-white-house/

You're a laughable idiot.
 

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Note the concern with the rule of law.

As to your idiotic contention about "highest levels of military" agreeing:

To pull off the prisoner swap of five Taliban leaders for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the White House overrode an existing interagency process charged with debating the transfer of Guantanamo Bay prisoners and dismissed long-standing Pentagon and intelligence community concerns based on Top Secret intelligence about the dangers of releasing the five men, sources familiar with the debate tell TIME.

http://time.com/2818827/taliban-bergdahl-pow-release-objections-white-house/

You're a laughable idiot.

That's fine. If you think the law should prevent us from saving American soldiers, more power to you.
 

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That's fine. If you think the law should prevent us from saving American soldiers, more power to you.

Uh, idiot, that isn't the law.

But you keep attacking those strawmen. With your low IQ.

The highest levels of our military agreed that this was the right decision

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What a goofy liar.
 

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Feds: Obama Broke Law with Bergdahl Swap
By Joel Gehrke
August 21, 2014 2:57 PM
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President Obama violated a “clear and unambiguous” law when he released five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the Government Accountability Office reported Thursday.
“[The Department of Defense] violated section 8111 because it did not notify the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the transfer,” the GAO report said. “In addition, because DOD used appropriated funds to carry out the transfer when no money was available for that purpose, DOD violated the Antideficiency Act. The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal agencies from incurring obligations exceeding an amount available in an appropriation.”
The GAO rejected the idea that the action was legal and sidestepped the Obama team’s suggestion that the law is unconstitutional.
“It is not our role or our practice to determine the constitutionality of duly enacted statutes,” the report says. “In our view, where legislation has been passed by Congress and signed by the President, thereby satisfying the bicameralism and presentment requirements in the Constitution, that legislation is entitled to a heavy presumption in favor of constitutionality.”
 

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[h=1]Trading For Bergdahl Means More Foleys[/h]


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[h=2]On Tuesday, ISIS terrorists beheaded American journalist James Foley. President Obama responded by bombing the fourth green during his long vacation in Martha’s Vineyard. He also lectured ISIS on the true meaning of Islam: “ISIL speaks for no religion…ISIL has no ideology of any value to human beings….One thing we can all agree on is that a group like ISIL has no place in the 21[SUP]st[/SUP] century.”[/h]The faculty-lounge insult approach has proved ineffective.
ISIS is now threatening to kill journalist Steven Sotloff. They reportedly hold two other Americans as well. And they will undoubtedly seek to kidnap more Americans in an attempt to leverage President Obama should the Obama administration fail to act with overwhelming force against ISIS.
There are now reports that ISIS offered to release Foley in exchange for $100 million. According to The New York Times:
The group pressed the United States to provide a multimillion-dollar ransom for his release, according to a representative of his family and a former hostage held alongside him. The United States — unlike several European countries that have funneled millions to the terror group to spare the lives of their citizens — refused to pay.
That position would have been more credible – ISIS would likely think less of its strategy of kidnapping US citizens for ransom, either political or monetary – if the Obama administration had not traded five Taliban commanders for alleged deserter Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl just three months ago. At the time, commentators worried that such deals provided impetus to terrorist groups to kidnap Americans. Obviously, Foley was kidnapped long before Bergdahl’s release – but the Obama administration was reportedly negotiating with the Taliban over Bergdahl long before Foley was kidnapped in 2012.
The five Taliban commanders released in exchange for Bergdahl are precisely the type of terrorists committed to acts like those of ISIS. According to the Washington Post, Khirullah Said Wali Khairkhwa, the former Taliban interior minister, helped create the Taliban; Mullah Mohammad Fazl, former senior commander in the Taliban, allegedly “supervised the killing of thousands of Shiite Muslims between 1998 and 2001”; Mullah Norullah Noori was reportedly “involved in the Shiite massacre”; Abdul Haq Wasiq was a sort of central hub for terror as deputy chief of intelligence for the Taliban; Mohammed Nabi Omari worked with al Qaeda and the Taliban.
With ISIS and al Qaeda now having unified in their quest to kill Americans, there is little doubt that kidnapping more Americans will be at the top of the priority list.
Incompetence with regard to trading with terrorists for hostages has been a hallmark not just of the Obama administration, but of many Western countries over the past few years. Israel recently released 1,000 Palestinian terror prisoners in exchange for soldier Gilad Shalit, prompting Hamas to seek the kidnapping of as many Israelis as possible. As Joshua Keating of Slate points out, European countries routinely deal with terrorists. Add America to that group – except, oddly, in the case of Foley.
The Obama administration revealed yesterday that it launched a rescue attempt by Special Forces, but that the operation failed. Such operations are commendable. In retrospect, it would have been just as commendable not to turn over the world’s worst terrorists in exchange for a hostage, given the fact that such terrorists happily slit the throats of kidnapped Americans once released.
 

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[h=2]Oversight Report: Obama Admin Violated Law by Freeing Taliban Members[/h]GAO: Congress not legally notified before Obama freed Gitmo inmates
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Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, right, stands with a Taliban fighter in eastern Afghanistan / AP



BY: Adam Kredo
August 21, 2014 3:18 pm
The Obama administration violated federal law when it released five senior Taliban leaders from prison without notifying Congress, as is legally mandated, according to an investigation by the Government Accountability Office (GAO).
The GAO concluded in a report issued Thursday that the Obama administration failed to provide proper notification of the Taliban release and illegally used taxpayer funds that were not appropriated to enable the inmate transfer, according to the report.
The Obama administration in May secretly struck a deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan to free from the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in Cuba five of its top leaders in exchange for the return of captured U.S. soldier Bowe Bergdahl, who was later accused by fellow soldiers of having deserted the Army prior to his capture.
The Pentagon was found to have “violated” the 2014 Department of Defense Appropriations Act “when it transferred five individuals detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the nation of Qatar without providing at least 30 days notice to certain congressional committees,” according to the report.
The Defense Department also was legally prohibited from using congressionally appropriated funds to pay for the transfer of detainees from Gitmo without first getting approval from Congress, which the Obama administration failed to do, according to the report.
“As a consequence of using its appropriations in a manner specifically prohibited by law, DOD also violated the Antideficiency Act,” which prevents unauthorized government expenditures, the GAO found.
GAO concludes that “when DOD failed to notify specified congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of its transfer of Guantanamo Bay detainees to Qatar, DOD used appropriated funds in violation of section 8111” of the law.
The oversight agency further concluded that the Pentagon and Obama administration clearly failed to “notify the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the transfer,” the report states. “In addition, because DOD used appropriated funds to carry out the transfer when no money was available for that purpose, DOD violated the Antideficiency Act.”
The Pentagon was found to have used $988,400 from the Army’s operation and maintenance to fund the mission.
While the Pentagon defended its actions when asked for an explanation by the GAO, the investigation ultimately found that the “DOD has dismissed the significance of the express language enacted in” the law prohibiting it from using congressionally appropriated funds to execute the Taliban transfer.
The Pentagon legally should have notified Congress of its actions before funding and carrying out the transfer, according to the report.
“To read section 8111 [of the relevant law] otherwise would render the notification requirement meaningless,” the GAO wrote.
The GAO further concludes that the Pentagon violated the Antideficienty Act by inappropriately funding the transfer of the five Taliban leaders from Gitmo.
DOD “obligated funds that were not legally available for obligation because DOD did not satisfy the notification requirements,” the GAO wrote.
 

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The highest levels of our military agreed that this was the right decision simply because we never leave any soldier behind. No one really cares about this issue because people don't care that we traded 5 useless humans for an American soldier. Even if he is a possible traitor and deserves life in prison.
He was no longer a soldier.
 

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What good does it do pointing out all the hideous anti-US moves by Obama, we still have to put up with him for more than two years. Anybody
who thinks Obama is not a secret Muslim is not paying attention. I'd say that within 10 years after his reign is over even if he isn't outed he'll reveal
his attachment to Islam. Now that things are getting pretty tuff from him, at this very minute it wouldn't surprise me if he was secretly kneeling on his prayer rug giving praise to Allah.
 

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What good does it do pointing out all the hideous anti-US moves by Obama, we still have to put up with him for more than two years. Anybody
who thinks Obama is not a secret Muslim is not paying attention. I'd say that within 10 years after his reign is over even if he isn't outed he'll reveal
his attachment to Islam. Now that things are getting pretty tuff from him, at this very minute it wouldn't surprise me if he was secretly kneeling on his prayer rug giving praise to Allah.

Obama does not know how to kneel. He knows how to bow down to world leaders, he knows how to ride a girl's bike, he knows how to drive a golf cart, but he does not know how to kneel. The Manchurian candidate had to be brainwashed, Obama was already on board. 10 years from now he probably will no longer even live in this country. Things are getting tough for him because he is finally being exposed. He has walked around with his zipper down for 6 years now and people are just now beginning to notice. Thing is he does not zip up on purpose. LOL
 

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Obama does not know how to kneel. He knows how to bow down to world leaders, he knows how to ride a girl's bike, he knows how to drive a golf cart, but he does not know how to kneel. The Manchurian candidate had to be brainwashed, Obama was already on board. 10 years from now he probably will no longer even live in this country. Things are getting tough for him because he is finally being exposed. He has walked around with his zipper down for 6 years now and people are just now beginning to notice. Thing is he does not zip up on purpose. LOL
That tells you all you need to know.

 

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The highest levels of our military agreed that this was the right decision simply because we never leave any soldier behind. No one really cares about this issue because people don't care that we traded 5 useless humans for an American soldier. Even if he is a possible traitor and deserves life in prison.

Akphi has access to the opinions of our highest levels of our military.

5 useless humans who will probably be responsible for the loss of life of hundreds, maybe thousands of other humans and most likely US citizens or military.

Good call lapdog.

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