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PARIS — As officials struggled Wednesday to explain why a jet with 150 people on board crashed amid a relatively clear sky, an investigator said evidence from a cockpit voice recorder indicated one pilot left the cockpit before the plane’s descent and was unable to get back in.
A senior military official involved in the investigation described “very smooth, very cool” conversation between the pilots during the early part of the flight from Barcelona, Spain, to Düsseldorf, Germany. Then the audio indicated that one of the pilots left the cockpit and could not re-enter.
“The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door, and there is no answer,” the investigator said. “And then he hits the door stronger, and no answer. There is never an answer.”
He said, “You can hear he is trying to smash the door down.”
While the audio seemed to give some insight into the circumstances leading to the Germanwings crash on Tuesday morning, it also left many questions unanswered.


“We don’t know yet the reason why one of the guys went out,” said the official, who requested anonymity because the investigation was continuing. “But what is sure is that at the very end of the flight, the other pilot is alone and does not open the door.”




The data from the voice recorder seems only to deepen the mystery surrounding the crash and provides no indication of the condition or activity of the pilot who remained in the cockpit. The descent from 38,000 feet over about 10 minutes was alarming but still gradual enough to indicate that the twin-engine Airbus A320 had not been damaged catastrophically. At no point during the descent was there any communication from the cockpit to air traffic controllers or any other signal of an emergency.
When the plane plowed into craggy mountains northeast of Nice, it was traveling with enough speed that it was all but pulverized, killing the 144 passengers and crew of six and leaving few clues.
The French aviation authorities have made public very little, officially, about the nature of the information that has been recovered from the audio recording, and it was not clear whether it was complete. France’s Bureau of Investigations and Analyses confirmed only that human voices and other cockpit sounds had been detected and would be subjected to detailed analysis.



Asked about the new evidence revealed in the cockpit recordings, Martine del Bono, a bureau spokeswoman, declined to comment. “Our teams continue to work on analyzing the CVR,” she said, referring to the cockpit voice recorder. “As soon as we have accurate information we intend to hold a press conference.”
Meanwhile, prosecutors in Marseille, who have been tasked with a separate criminal inquiry into the crash, could not immediately be reached for comment. Brice Robin, the Marseille prosecutor, was due to meet Thursday morning with the families of the crash victims.
At the crash site, a senior official working on the investigation said, workers found the casing of the plane’s other so-called black box, the flight data recorder, but the memory card containing data on the plane’s altitude, speed, location and condition was not inside, apparently having been thrown loose or destroyed by the impact.


The flight’s trajectory ahead of the crash also left many unanswered questions.


Rémi Jouty, the director of the Bureau of Investigations and Analyses, said at a news conference that the plane took off around 10 a.m. local time from Barcelona and that the last message sent from the pilot to air traffic controllers had been at 10:30 a.m., which indicated that the plane was proceeding on course.
But minutes later, the plane inexplicably began to descend, Mr. Jouty said. At 10:40 and 47 seconds, the plane reported its last radar position, at an altitude of 6,175 feet. “The radar could follow the plane until the point of impact,” he said.
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it looks like it was murder suicide by the pilot. It was planned and intentional.

my goodness!
 

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I smell the stench of Islam.

GERMAN NEWS: Co-Pilot of Germanwings Airbus Was MUSLIM CONVERT …’Hero of Islamic State’?

Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:48 PM

GERMAN REPORT —HE WAS RADICALIZED!
GERMAN CO-PILOT WAS MUSLIM CONVERT–
— STAYED AT Bremen Mosque


Police have reportedly found something of “significance” at the apartment of the co-pilot who crashed the Germanwing passenger plane into the Alps this week.


28-year-old German Andreas Lubitz trained in the Phoenix, Arizona and is pictured here in San Francisco.


A German news website claims Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert.


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reported:

According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.


Translation from German:


All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam
and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.


Converts are the most important weapon of Islam.
Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, “Islamic Scholars”) will agree to assign this an act of a “mentally unstable” man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.


For now the German Islam supporters like never before have their backs against the wall.

Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015

Apparently from the comments at German PI – Andreas Lubitz was Muslim convert from his Facebook page.


Another Facebook page was set up=> Support for Andrew Lubitz, hero of the Islamic State.

(The Facebook page has since been taken down)


A close friend of Andreas Lubitz says he was mentally unstable.

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Well it was terrorism for those on the plane, but I'm not seeing a connection to Islam.

I wonder what kind of meds this guy was on?

Lanza killed twenty children for no discernible reason.

Can't wish pure evil away.
 

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GERMAN NEWS: Co-Pilot of Germanwings Airbus Was MUSLIM CONVERT …’Hero of Islamic State’?

Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:48 PM



THIS is who Casper is using as his source. There is no one in legit media who has confirmed any of this, but as we see on this site, there is no shortage of Muslim hate and trying to paint EVERY evil and sick act in the world to ISLAM. Your Hero Hitler would be proud. You would have made a perfect SS Man.

[h=1]Jim Hoft: Dumbest Man on the Internet?[/h] [h=5] Blog ››› September 21, 2010 2:44 PM EDT ››› BEN DIMIERO[/h]
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With a few exceptions, the upper echelon of the conservative blogosphere is a mess.
Breitbart's "Big" websites traffic in misleading non-scandals and have published people like 9-11 truther Michael Moriarty, racist penis-enlarger/vagina-tightener Kevin Pezzi, and former SNL actress/spouter-of-incomprehensible nonsense Victoria Jackson. NewsBusters and The Media Research Center spend a lot of time finding the liberal bias in television shows that don't treat their gay characters as ostracized sub-humans.
Atlas Shrugs is run by a woman that is haunted at every turn by Islamic crescents, and whose hatred for the president once compelled her to claim that his penchant for "purple" (actually blue) neckties meant that Democrats were "Flying the Gangsta Colors at the White House." Confederate Yankee Bob Owens - who also writes for Breitbart and the Washington Examiner - openly speculates about whether he and an army of "freshly-experienced combat veterans and graying patriots" are going to have to start killing people to combat the "slavery" of health care reform.
But despite all this stiff competition, Jim Hoft (aka Gateway Pundit) stands out as uniquely incompetent. Hoft runs with (or spawns) almost every inane story that bubbles up in the conservative blogosphere, has proven that he has absolutely no vetting process for the sources he cites, and apparently has a hard time with basic reading comprehension.
Hoft -- who has modeled for a John Deere catalogue and "played a cop on 'Unsolved Mysteries' twice" -- has "never had any training in politics or journalism," but now has the "#8 ranked political blog in the United States" that is "frequently mentioned on top national news shows."
Indeed, in spite of the fact that Hoft embarrasses himself on a near-daily basis and has shown time and again that he is either willfully dishonest or staggeringly inept, he has managed to carve out a role as one of the most-read, most respected writers in the conservative blogosphere. And his influence extends beyond the blogs. Hoft's stories are regularly featured on Fox News' Fox Nation website, and he has been cited as a source on-air by Fox News on multiple occasions.
Hoft's ongoing position of influence in the conservative media is evidence that the entire movement is intellectually bankrupt.
[h=2]Who are you going to believe - Jim Hoft or your lying eyes?[/h] Hoft regularly posts innocuous images that he twists into nonsensical attacks on Democrats and progressives.
When you look at this picture of Obama, what do you see?
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If you answered "the president scratching his face" or "Obama holding up two fingers," you are right. But according to Hoft, that is actually a picture of the "child president" "flipping off" House Minority Leader John Boehner. In a July post, Hoft announced in a headline that "Obama Flips Boehner The Bird During Racine Speech," and explained that Obama "just can't help himself." It's unfathomable that it is necessary to explain this to an influential blogger (or any adult, for that matter), but it is not possible to "flip the bird" with multiple fingers extended on the same hand.
How about this one:
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This, of course, is Rev. Al Sharpton speaking at a rally, perhaps waving to someone. But in Hoft's world, this is Sharpton giving a "Nazi salute." After Sharpton spoke at an August 28 rally in Washington, D.C., Hoft posted video of the speech - and the above still photo -- under the headline "Heil Al!... Sharpton Gives Nazi Salute at Rally?" Hoft was upset that the "media ignored this" shocking story.
What about this image of the Nuclear Security Summit logo?
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While the logo may seem non-controversial to you, Hoft's eagle eyes spotted "an Islamic crest" hidden in the design. This was especially "weird" to Hoft, because "we all know [Obama's] a good Christian." (This particular bit of conservative stupidity, which Fox News and others ran with, was debunked by Jon Stewart, who noted that the "inspiration for the logo is actually the Rutherford-Bohr model of the atom.")
[h=2]As long as you don't look at his evidence, Hoft's arguments hold up well[/h] Another of Hoft's neat tricks is to make an outlandish argument and then cite evidence that actually refutes the point he's trying to make.
In the heat of the "Ground Zero mosque" controversy, Hoft purported to "fact check" the AP's assertion that there already exists a mosque five blocks from Ground Zero. Hoft claimed that the mosque in question "was evicted years ago according to their website," and excerpted the following statement as evidence:
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The only way Hoft's "fact check" held up was if you stopped reading after the first sentence. But as the rest of the statement made clear, the operators of the mosque "did not have to close the Masjid" and found a location "just two doors down" from the original. Hoft either did not bother to read past the first sentence, or he did read it, decided it didn't matter, and assumed his readers to be too stupid or gullible to know the difference.
In July, conservatives spent a week lying about the Obama administration supposedly "supporting" the release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi. The talking point was completely demolished when the State Department released its correspondence with the Scottish Ministry of Justice, which stated in plain English that the administration was "not prepared to support Megrahi's release on compassionate release or bail." Undeterred, Hoft linked to the State Department letter and declared that the administration "preferred" Megrahi's release.
This up-is-down method of argumentation once led Hoft to accuse Desmond Tutu of being a "Jew-hater." The article that he linked to as evidence of Tutu's supposed anti-Semitism was about the Anti-Defamation League urging a Minnesota university to allow Tutu "to speak just days after it was revealed that he had been disinvited because of fears he might offend Jews." The article quoted the ADL's national director as saying that Tutu "certainly is not an anti-Semite and should not be so characterized and therefore refused a platform."
[h=2]No filter, no standards, much embarrassment[/h] At this point, you might be thinking, "where does Hoft come up with all of this crap?" With disturbing frequency, the answer to that question seems to be either "he saw it on Free Republic," or "someone emailed it to him and he didn't bother looking into it."
On June 7, Hoft ran an article with the breathless headline, "HEAVY WEAPONS Discovered in Cargo of Mavi Marmara." (The Mavi Marmara was part of a Palestinian aid flotilla that had been raided days earlier by Israeli commandos while en route to Gaza.) He linked to a video that, in his words, "shows the heavy weapons discovered in the Mavi Marmara Gaza Flotilla ship."
After two minutes of research, we discovered that the video in question predated the Mavi Marmara raid by at least one year. By the time we posted, Hoft had offered a rare sort-of correction, crossing out the entire post and adding a note informing readers "This email that is making the rounds today is a HOAX." (Note: the post appears to have since been deleted.)
All that could have been avoided had he done a bare minimum of fact checking before basing an incendiary article on a hoax chain email.
But Hoft's problems with source vetting go much further. In April, Hoft was one of the first blogs to pick up a story about French President Nicolas Sarkozy supposedly saying that Obama "might be insane." Hoft described the story as a "recent report supposedly circulating the Kremlin." The "report" was from the European Union Times, which, as we detailed, is a ragingly anti-Semitic (and 9-11 truther) website with a section devoted to "Jews" (never a good sign) filled with incendiary articles and images, such as the one below:
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Hoft provided no explanation or apology for credibly citing an openly anti-Semitic website.
Promoting the work of bigots is actually a specialty of Hoft's. He spent most of last December promoting smears on Department of Education official Kevin Jennings from anti-gay group MassResistance, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated as a "hate group."
And, as you might expect from someone who bases stories on chain emails, he also ends up promoting scam artists. In May, Hoft hyped a press release "warning" about "global cooling" from the Space and Science Research Center (SSRC) -- a source he described as "the leading independent research organization in the US on the subject of climate change."
As we discovered thanks to a quick Google search, the SSRC is run by John L Casey, a man with no formal background or experience with climate science who Hoft's fellow climate science deniers have labeled "a scam artist trying to get his hands in your pockets." But Casey's press release reinforced Hoft's already ironclad opposition to climate science, so he ran with it.
That's not journalism; it's hackish stenography, and it's just one of the countless embarrassingly incompetent Jim Hoft posts from this year alone.
[h=2]If you can think of an absurd right-wing scandal, Hoft promoted it[/h] When he isn't giving a leg up to scam artists and bigots, Hoft can be seen spawning or dutifully promoting almost every absurd "scandal" that bubbles up in conservative media circles.
An abbreviated list:
The hilarious fabrication that Obama wanted to "ban sport fishing":
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Andrew Breitbart's smear of then-USDA official Shirley Sherrod:
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(Hoft also "broke" the related fabrication - uncritically repeated by Fox & Friends - that NAACP president Ben Jealous was at Sherrod's speech.)
The "ludicrous" report that the U.S. was "giving land back to Mexico":
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The smear that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf "threatened" the U.S.:
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Dick Morris' subsequently-retracted fable about Janet Reno attempting to blackmail Bill Clinton over Waco:
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The utterly false story that Michelle Obama stocked the White House library with socialist books:
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During a March Fox News interview, Obama defended a provision in the Senate version of the health care bill that, in Obama's words, said that "if a state has been affected by a natural catastrophe, that has created a special health care emergency in that state, they should get help." Obama added that the provision "also affects Hawaii, which went through an earthquake." Hoft got the ball rolling on the claim that Obama lied about the earthquake...even though there was an earthquake in Hawaii in 2006. Like many other Hoft scoops, this was uncritically forwarded by Fox News:
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Hoft also ran with the absolutely absurd and baseless smear that alleged Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad was a "registered Democrat" (though he later updated his headline to claim that Shahzad was merely a "Bush hater").
[h=2]Questionable moral judgments to go with unquestionably awful journalistic integrity
[/h] Hoft's disregard for the truth and journalistic integrity is paired with an irrational hatred of all Democrats and progressives (and the policies they espouse), which frequently leads him to make questionable moral judgments.
In June, Secretary of State Clinton announced that for the first time in history, the United States would be included in the annual State Department report detailing human trafficking and the modern day slave trade, which found that "up to 17,500 people are trafficked each year" in the United States. However, the disturbing reality of human trafficking within our national borders was lost on Hoft, who instead attacked Clinton's announcement as "America-hating."
Hoft has shown that there are no depths he won't sink to in order to smear the people that he disagrees with. In May, President Obama honored slain Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl by signing the "Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act." Obama's remarks at the signing made clear that he was honoring Pearl's memory (along with Pearl's widow and son.) Hoft took an out of context video clip of Obama saying Pearl's death "captured the world's imagination" in order to suggest that Obama was celebrating Pearl's murder. Hoft purported to correct Obama's "crazy sick" interpretation of Pearl's death by writing: "No, Barack. It was horrifying."
For this contemptible post, Hoft was rewarded with a prominent link on Fox Nation's website.

All the examples included in this post are from the past year, which is to say that Hoft makes embarrassing, credibility-killing errors on an almost daily basis. If the conservative media had any standards whatsoever, Hoft would be an afterthought in the conservative blogosphere -- a solitary, angry man screaming into the void.
But instead he holds a position of influence. He often drives the conversation not just online, but also on cable news. This is proof positive that the conservative media aren't impressed by "facts" and "reality."
They prefer shameless hacks like Jim Hoft.
UPDATE:
It is a testament to Hoft's unending torrent of follies that I neglected to include the time -- last week, in fact -- that he attacked Mike Castle for the time he supposedly "voted to impeach" George W. Bush. Quite obviously, Castle, a Republican, never voted to impeach Bush. Rather, as we noted, he voted to effectively kill an impeachment resolution by Rep. Dennis Kucinic
 

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Killer in the cockpit: Lubitz competes in a half-marathon in 2013




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Slipped through the net: Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz had suffered from depression and ‘burnout’ which had held up his career




 

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Potential breakthrough: German detectives carry evidence boxes from the 28-year-old's apartment on the outskirts of Dusseldorf on Thursday

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Police said they had 'found something' that would now be taken for tests, adding it may be a 'clue' as to what happened to the doomed jet

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German detectives were also pictured carrying computer equipment from Lubitz's family home in a small town north of Frankfurt



 

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[h=3]AIRLINES INTRODUCE BANS ON PILOTS BEING LEFT ALONE IN COCKPIT[/h]A string of airlines last night introduced emergency rules to prevent pilots ever being left alone in the cockpit.
In an attempt to prevent a repetition of the Germanwings disaster, a senior crew member will stay on the flight deck if one of the pilots is not there.
The Civil Aviation Authority urged airlines to review their rules to avoid the pilot or co-pilot being alone at the controls.
Flybe, easyJet, Emirates, Thomas Cook, Norwegian Air and Virgin Atlantic all said they would make this company policy.
The CAA ‘advises’ another staff member should stand in if one of the pilots has to leave to get a drink or go to the toilet.
But until now, one person was deemed sufficient and having a second person at all times was ‘voluntary’. However, the latest tragedy will heap pressure on airlines that do not follow the advice.
A CAA statement said: ‘Following the details that have emerged regarding the tragic Germanwings incident, we are co-ordinating closely with colleagues at the European Aviation Safety Agency and have contacted all UK operators to require them to review all relevant procedures.’
The authority added that it had made the change ‘in the light of the latest developments in France’ that revealed the pilot of flight 9525 was locked out of the cockpit.
While the CAA said the switch will remain voluntary, an industry insider said: ‘There is some industry chatter about the policy becoming mandatory.’
Budget carrier easyJet was one of the first to announce the change. A spokesman said: ‘easyJet can confirm that, with effect from March 27, it will change its procedure which will mean that two crew members will be in the cockpit at all times.’ A crew member will temporarily enter the cockpit if the pilot or co-pilot needs the toilet.
Tour operator Thomas Cook said: ‘We are adapting our procedures to ensure there will always be two people in the cockpit.’
Ryanair, Flybe, Monarch and Jet2, which flies from the Midlands, the North and Scotland, said they already had policies to ensure two crew are in the cockpit at all times.
Monarch’s spokesman added: ‘We also have an “eyes-on” rule requiring cabin crew to enter the cockpit during the cruising stage to check on the pilot and co-pilot.’
BMI Regional declined to comment, while a British Airways spokesman said: ‘It’s not something we’re going to get drawn into. It’s not that we’ve not decided; we’re choosing not to comment.’ The airline said it classed cockpit seating as a security issue and never discussed such matters.
Virgin Atlantic said having two people on the flight deck at all times was ‘common practice’ but it is now ‘formalising’ this.
But while most airlines have rushed to comply with the CAA advice, pilots’ union Balpa accused the authority of ‘jumping to a solution’ that could ‘create different risks’.
Lufthansa, parent company of Germanwings, was also undecided last night. A spokesman said: ‘So far, no decision has been taken to change the procedure … but we will look into it. So far, we trust our procedure.’
Flying with two people constantly in the cockpit is standard practice in the US. Long-haul flights usually have more than two crew on board who are capable of flying the plane.




 

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[h=3]16 TEENAGERS, TWO BABIES AND A FATHER OF TWO: THE VICTIMS OF THE DOOMED GERMANWINGS FLIGHT[/h]Germanwings chief executive Thomas Winkelmann said those who died came from at least 13 different countries - with 72 German nationals and 49 people from Spain confirmed to have been on passenger lists for the plane.
There has been some confusion over numbers of passengers and countries they are from, because of dual nationalities.
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Youngest victim: Seven-month-old Julian Pracz-Bandres, pictured with his mother Marina Bandres (also right), died when the Airbus crashed

UK
Martyn Matthews, a father-of-two with another child on the way. Mr Matthews, of Wolverhampton, was on business in Barcelona.
Marina Bandrés López-Belio, from Huesca, was travelling with her seven-month-old baby Julian from her uncle's funeral in Zaragoza.
They had been living in Manchester. Ms Lopez-Belio had not been able to fly home direct to Manchester, so had opted for a flight to Dusseldorf.
Paul Andrew Bramley, 28, originally from Hull, was also a passenger on the flight, the Foreign Office confirmed.
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U.S. government contractor Yvonne Selke, 57, and her graduate daughter Emily, of Nokesville, Virginia, were both passengers on the doomed flight.
Yvonne was a long-serving and highly regarded employee of Booz Allen Hamilton Inc., while Emily graduated from Drexel University, Philadelphia, in 2013.
Raymond Selke confirmed on Wednesday that his wife and daughter were among the 150 people who died on a Germanwings flight from Spain to Germany the day before.
In a statement, he said: 'Our entire family is deeply saddened by the losses of Yvonne and Emily Selke. Two wonderful, caring, amazing people who meant so much to so many. At this difficult time we respectfully ask for privacy and your prayers.'
A third U.S. citizen was also on the crashed plane, but the State Department has yet to release the name of the victim.
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Graduate Emily Selke, pictured, has been named as one of the two Americans killed in the crash. Her mother, U.S. government contractor Yvonne Selke, was also on board the doomed Airbus A320

Germany
Class of 16 year 10 pupils from Joseph-Koenig-Gymnasium school in west Germany on an exchange trip to Barcelona
Their two Spanish teachers - Sonja Cercek and Stefanie T.
Maria Radner, 34, an opera singer at the Deutsche Oper am Rhine in Dusseldorf. The contralto was travelling with her husband and baby after having performed in Barcelona, with fellow opera singer Oleg Bryjak, who also perished.
Thomas Treppe, a fashion consultant, had been travelling on business when the plane crashed, El Pais reported.
María de Pablo Nuño, a Spanish teacher who had travelled to see her family in Barcelona.
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Victims: Opera singer Maria Radner (left), who was travelling with her baby, and Oleg Bryjak (right) were among those killed in the crash

Spain
Josep Sabaté Casellas, worked for Espirit and was travelling to a business meeting in Germany. He was married with three children and was believed to have a fourth child on the way.
Teacher Pilar Vicente Sebastián, 52, had been on her way to see her two children who were studying in Dusseldorf, according to Levante.
A newly married 23-year-old man from La Llagosta, who got married on Saturday, was travelling with his wife, es reported.
A grandmother, her daughter and grandaughter from Sant Cugat del Vallès in Catalonia were all travelling together on a visit to Dusseldorf, according to the Huffington Post.
Manuel Rives, 52, was a married father of three and representative for the major Spanish trade union in Delphi, reported El Pais. Colleagues were seen carrying his photo, remembering the worker, today.
The newspaper also reported that businessman and amateur rower Carles Masanas Milla was going to a food fair in Cologne.
Ariadna Falguera, 33, wife of a member of the Republican Left of Catalonia (ERC) party, was confirmed to have been among the passengers, according to El Pais.
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Australian victims: Mother and son Carol and Greig Friday, from Victoria, were among the 150 passengers and crew on board Flight 4U 9525

Australia
Mother and son Carol and Greig Friday, of Victoria in Australia.
Belgium
Christian Driessens, 59, a father and grandfather, travelled on planes almost every week for business and was fondly remembered by his family as an avid globetrotter, who loved to travel.
Kazakhstan
Opera singer Oleg Bryjak, 54, a baritone, had just performed Richard Wagner's 'Siegfried' at Barcelona's Gran Teatre del Liceu.




 

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I tried to engage the Wingnuts on Hoft's Insane Gateway Pundit site. After ONE question, asking for PROOF of his claim, and PROOF of the Pilot's Facebook page that attached him to Islam, I was banned and the post asking for Proof was removed. They only like obedient sheep over there. Perfect website for Casper and the Sick RX Poly Forum Cult.
 

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Over One Hundred People Have Been Killed By A Pilot In The Swiss Alps...Can We Discuss Plane Control Or Must We Still Wait On That?
 

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Over One Hundred People Have Been Killed By A Pilot In The Swiss Alps...Can We Discuss Plane Control Or Must We Still Wait On That?

ah yes.....it doesn't take long for gun nuts to get their propaganda moronic comparisons out there.

Gun nut, birthers and bible beaters are scary groups of people
 

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ah yes.....it doesn't take long for gun nuts to get their propaganda moronic comparisons out there.

Gun nut, birthers and bible beaters are scary groups of people

Well at least I am not a lowlife scumbag bootlicker that attempted to politicize a tragedy before the children's bodies were cold.
 

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Well at least I am not a lowlife scumbag bootlicker that attempted to politicize a tragedy before the children's bodies were cold.

yeah you guys are so concerned about the children huh? That's why you nuts fight every effort to control guns. For the kids right?

only loons in this world do shit like compare knife deaths and gun deaths. Only loons always say "now isn't the time to look at gun control"
Only an idiot would say the weapon used for more killing than any other weapon by a mile isn't part of the problem

And yes you are a lowlife scumbag
 

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