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Plea comes as Vladimir Putin threatens retaliation for killing of peacekeepers in Georgian military assault to regain control of rebel South Ossetia


Georgia today called on the US to step in after Russian tanks rolled across the border to aid separatists in the breakaway region of South Ossetia.
The Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili, said it was in US interests to help his "freedom-loving" nation.


In an interview with CNN, he said: "Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory.


"It's not about Georgia any more. It's about America, its values. We are a freedom-loving nation that is right now under attack."
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His plea came during a three-hour ceasefire in heavy bombardment of the South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali, by Georgian forces.
At least 10 Russian peacekeepers had been killed and 30 injured. Fifteen civilians had died.


Russian forces invaded the regional capital, Tskhinvali, and bombed a military airbase outside the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, after the president, Dmitry Medvedev, said it was his duty to punish those responsible for Russian deaths.


Georgia today said its forces had control of the city.


Earlier, Saakashvili said 150 Russian tanks and armoured vehicles had entered the region and that his forces had shot down two Russian planes over Georgian territory.


"This is a clear intrusion on another country's territory," he said. "We have Russian tanks on our territory, jets on our territory in broad daylight."
Georgia began shelling Tskhinvali last night, and Russian forces moved across the border as Georgian troops held a three-hour ceasefire to allow civilians to be evacuated.



A Russian commander of the peacekeeping force stationed in the city today said it had been "almost destroyed" by the bombardment.


Before the Russian tanks rolled across the border, Medvedev told reporters: "Under the constitution and federal law ... I must protect the life and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are."


The Russian Interfax news agency quoted him as saying those responsible "will receive a deserved punishment".


Up to 90% of South Ossetia's non-Georgian population carry Russian passports. Kazakhstan, another former Soviet state, has indicated it may enter the conflict on Russia's side.


The Georgian foreign minister, Ekaterine Tkeshelashvili, told the BBC that the current situation was calm, with Georgian troops observing a unilateral ceasefire.

She said they wanted to ensure that any civilians who wanted to leave the conflict zone could do so safely.



An amnesty had also been extended to any separatist fighters willing to lay down their arms, she added.


Earlier in the day, Georgian troops exchanged fire with convoys carrying volunteer fighters over the border to support the separatists.


Georgia said Russian SU-24 jets had entered its airspace and bombed two locations, including Gori, the birthplace of the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin, south of the Ossetian enclave. Russia denied the claims.


International leaders called for peace. A spokesman for George Bush, who is in China, said: "All sides should bring an immediate end to the violence and engage in direct talks to resolve this matter peacefully."


The Nato secretary general, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, said he was "seriously concerned" about the developments. He called for an immediate ceasefire and the start of direct peace talks.


Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister and former president, said "aggressive" action by Georgia would incur a "response".



"The Georgian leadership has unleashed a dirty adventure," a ministerial statement said. "Blood spilled in South Ossetia will be blamed on these people and their associates.


Speaking through Interfax from China, where he is attending the opening of the Olympics, Putin blamed the Georgian leadership for its aggressive stance.



"Heavy weapons and artillery have been sent there, and tanks have been added," Putin said.



"Deaths and injuries have been reported, including among Russian peacekeepers. It's all very sad and alarming. And, of course, there will be a response."


The Kremlin decided to move into South Ossetia after Russia's security council met to discuss how to restore peace and defend civilians. Moscow has stressed it has a peacekeeping mandate and will act on it.


Saakashvili, who has ordered reservists into action, said "the greater part" of South Ossetia had been "liberated". Interfax said Georgian troops had entered Tskhinvali, but this was denied by Georgia.


Georgian television said the country's troops had taken eight South Ossetian villages including Sarabuk, a strategic vantage point on high ground.



A few hours before heavy fighting broke out, Saakashvili had promised a unilateral Georgian ceasefire and offered South Ossetia broad autonomy within Georgia.


Georgia accuses Russian peacekeepers of supporting separatists. Today, peacekeepers said Georgians were targeting their positions and that they had lost some men.


The crisis in the Caucasus represents the first major test for Medvedev, but Putin's comments from China suggest he is calling the shots.
Georgian forces appear to have the upper hand but could soon find themselves fighting on two fronts as another separatist region, the Black Sea enclave of Abkhazia, announced troops were moving towards the Georgian border.


Cossacks from Russia said they were ready to go to the aid of the South Ossetians.


In Tskhinvali, Kokoity, the South Ossetian leader, was meeting Teymuraz Mamsurov, the leader of North Ossetia, which is within Russia and has promised to help the rebels.


Mamsurov said lorries carrying humanitarian aid from his region were attacked by Georgian aircraft last night.
 

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We always do too much, except when we do too little.

A great example of how we're called upon whenever somebody needs help, but otherwise we're supposedly hated throughout the world.

At least we know why the new Russian president launched an unchallenged preemptive strike through the NYT. They look dumber by the day.
 

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y did it right at start of olympics too....as less likely for rest of world to get involved other than say cease fire while olympics ongoing
 

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There's a fair chance the Georgians beat the russians back, what happens then is the real question.
 

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"The Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili, said it was in US interests to help his "freedom-loving" nation."

We got our handsfull in other places. Let the territory that produced Stalin fend for themselves!
 

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also i think this could somewhat be related to the oil issue

just like iran has been talking louder lately

both iran and russia nobody's if oil continues to fall
 

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Georgia declares state of war with Russia

* Story Highlights
* Georgian parliament declares state of war declared with Russia over South Ossetia
* Russia says its paratroopers entering capital of South Ossetia
* Cities across Georgia being bombed early Saturday
* Russia's Interfax news agency said 2,000 people killed in South Ossetia capital
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TBLISI, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia's parliament Saturday approved a request by President Mikhail Saakashvili's to impose a "state of war," as the conflict between Georgia and Russia escalated, Georgian officials said.

Saakashvili accused Russia of launching an unprovoked full-scale military attack against his country, including targeting civilian homes, while Russian officials insist their troops were protecting people from Georgia's attacks on South Ossetia, a breakaway Georgian region that borders Russia.

Russia's Interfax news agency said the death toll was at least 2,000 killed in the capital of South Ossetia and claimed the city has been destroyed.

Separatist-backed South Ossetian sources reported that about 1,600 people have died and 90 have been wounded in provincial capital Tskhinvali since Russian forces entered the territory Thursday.

Georgia said the overall death toll would be closer to 100.

Georgian officials said Russia has mobilized its Black Sea fleet off the coast of Abkhazia, another breakaway Georgian province.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin arrived Saturday in Vladikavkaz, near Russia's border with Georgia, Russia's Interfax reported.

Meanwhile, President George Bush, speaking from Beijing, called for an immediate halt to the violence, a stand-down by all troops, and an end to the Russian bombings. Video Watch Bush express concerns over situation »

The Georgian "state of war" order is not a formal declaration of war, and stops short of declaring martial law, according to Georgian officials who described it to CNN.

It gives Saakashvili powers he would not ordinarily have, such as issuing curfews, restricting the movement of people, or limiting commercial activities, those officials said.

It places the government on a 24-hour alert, said Georgian National Security Council Secretary Alexander Lomaia during a conference call with reporters.

Saakashvili asked Western leaders to pressure Russia to agree to an immediate cease-fire, which he said his country would willingly observe first.

"We are dealing with absolutely criminal and crazy acts of irresponsible and reckless decision makers, which is on the ground producing dramatic and tragic consequences," Saakashvili said Saturday afternoon.

A White House spokesman said President Bush spoke Saturday evening to Saakashvili and Russian President Medvedev.

The war, Saakashvili said, "is not about South Ossetia. It has never been in the first place. It is about destroying a small democratic nation aspiring to live in peace, freedom and liberty."

"This unprovoked, long-time-ago-planned invasion and aggression must stop," he said.

Russia, with a population of 146 million, is trying to destroy his country of 4.6 million people, he said, comparing it to the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

"I think what is at stake here is the post-Cold War order," Saakashvili said.

Inna Gagloyeva, spokeswoman for the South Ossetian Information and Press Committee, told Russia's Interfax news agency that Tskhinvali was being "massively shelled" with artillery guns. Video Watch images of crashed Georgian war plane »

It was unclear which side was in control of that city on Saturday. The Georgians said fighting raged, but the Russians said they had "liberated" the city.

"Battalion task forces have fully liberated Tskhinvali of Georgian armed forces and started pushing Georgian units out of the area of responsibility of the peacekeeping forces," said General Vladimir Boldyrev, commander of the Russian Ground Forces, in an interview with Interfax.

Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, told a news conference that the Russian paratroopers will "implement the operation of enforcing peace" on both sides.

Nogovitsyn also confirmed that Georgians had shot down two Russian aircraft. Saakashvili said his military has shot down 10 Russian bombers.

Russia said the troops were also reinforcing the Russian peacekeepers already in South Ossetia.

"Our peacekeepers, along with reinforcement units, are currently conducting an operation to force the Georgian side to accept peace," Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said at the Kremlin. "They are also responsible for protecting the population."

Interfax said 15 peacekeepers were killed in the Friday attack by Georgian troops. Russia has opened a criminal probe into their deaths, Interfax reported.

Georgia, a former Soviet Republic, is a pro-Western ally of the United States intent on asserting its authority over South Ossetia and Abkhazia. which both have strong Russian-backed separatist movements.Video Watch Georgian minister describe fighting in South Ossetia »

Russia moved troops into South Ossetia early Friday after Georgia launched an operation in the breakaway region when its unilateral cease-fire was met with what it said was artillery fire from separatists that killed 10 people, including peacekeepers and civilians.

Russia charged that Georgia had targeted its peacekeepers stationed in the region.

Medvedev said Saturday that Georgia must be held responsible for the situation in South Ossetia.

"The people responsible for this humanitarian disaster need to be held liable for what they have done," Medvedev said. He said the humanitarian problems were caused by "the aggression launched by the Georgian side against the South Ossetian civilians and Russian peacekeepers."

Russian officials said more than 30,000 refugees have left South Ossetia and crossed into Russia over the past two days, since fighting began, Interfax reported.

Maia Kardava, a Red Cross spokeswoman in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi was unable to provide refugee or casualty figures Saturday morning because she said aid workers were still gathering information and visiting hospitals in South Ossetia and western Georgia.

Russian forces bombed several targets in Georgia on Saturday, according to Kardava and the British Foreign Office, which advised against all nonessential travel to Georgia.

Russian aircraft bombarded military and civilian targets the port town of Poti, on Georgia's Black Sea coast, Kardava and British and Georgian officials said. Eight Georgians were killed in the port town, Georgian officials said.

In the town of Senaki, just inland from Poti, Russian forces damaged a railway line, a military base, and a center housing civilians who fled from nearby Abkhazia.

Military bases at Vaziani and Marneuli also came under attack, the British Foreign Office said, and Russian aircraft bombed the Georgian town of Gori, about 35 miles northwest of Tbilisi, Georgian officials said.

Inside South Ossetia, civilians have been without water, electricity, and basic services for more than a day, Kardava said. She said the Red Cross was unable to reach colleagues based in Tskhinvali because their phones had lost power and they were huddled in bomb shelters.

Also Saturday, the commander of Georgian troops stationed in Iraq said the 2,000 soldiers there will be withdrawn from Iraq "very soon."

Colonel Bondo Maisuradze said the United States would provide the transport to get them out of Iraq. He said he had no time frame for the move.

Saakashvili told CNN Friday that the troops were needed in Georgia to defend against the Russian military.
 

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also just as a footnote

georgia was actually the one that made the first move bombing Tskhinvali

south ossetia broke free from georgia in 1992

more complicated than it looks at the surface

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/georgia_south_ossetia

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Georgia, a U.S. ally whose troops have been trained by American soldiers, launched the major offensive overnight Friday. Heavy rocket and artillery fire pounded the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, leaving much of the city in ruins.

It was the worst outbreak of hostilities since South Ossetia won de facto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told reporters Saturday in Moscow that some 1,500 people had been killed in South Ossetia since Friday, with the death toll rising. The figures could not be independently confirmed.

But Tskhinvali residents who survived the bombardment by hiding in basements and later fled the city estimated that hundreds of civilians had died. They said bodies were lying everywhere.

Georgia, a country about the size of South Carolina that borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Today, Russia has approximately 30 times more people than Georgia and 240 times the area.

Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and have built up ties with Moscow. Russia has granted its passports to most of their residents.
 

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If America can't make a dollar off you then they won't get involved. Unless this country has a ssshhhiiittt load of oil or gold or something, you're on your own.

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I say we send them Obumma looks like they need some hope and change.
 

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If America can't make a dollar off you then they won't get involved. Unless this country has a ssshhhiiittt load of oil or gold or something, you're on your own.

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you're dead on. that something you speak of would be drugs (see our occupation of afghanistan).

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In related news, GEORGIA currently Number 1 in preseason NCAA Coaches Poll.
 

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gators will own those bitches per usual once again

one year and these clowns ranked #1 lol
 

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We'll need to keep a wee eye on Russia.

They kicked out the big joos.
They've now invaded a surrounding nation that have a high percentage of their own nationality who asked for help.
Russia Today is just a corny propaganda mouthpiece if anyone has ever seen it.

We're looking at some heavy duty nationalism here, a micro version of 1930s Germany.

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We'll need to keep a wee eye on Russia.

They kicked out the big joos.

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Just shut up already. We all know you're a moron. You don't have to keep reminding us all on a daily basis.
 

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orly , maybe you should look for videos of georgian soldiers killing ossetinian kids
 

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