Game over: new colorado poll

[gtc08]

<table style="width: 600px;" class="table-races" id="table-1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Colorado</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">InAdv/PollPosition</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama 51, McCain 41</td><td bgcolor="#cccccc">Obama +10</td></tr></tbody></table>
hold kerry states, colorado and new mexico are yours for the taking obama. forget about ohio. win virginia for funsies.

 

[tocco05]

I can play this game also.

FOX News/Rasmussen 09/14 - 09/14 500 LV 46 48 McCain +2

 

[BetIt]

Only truthful thing about the first post is they should forget Ohio. Just spend enough to make McCain defend there.

Florida/VA better chance of flipping

Obviously the other swing states too.

 

[gtc08]

yea i know. this is more mocking tocco. he did the same thing when minnesoa was listed as a tie.

 

[festeringZit]

gtc,

when are you leaving this country again?

 

[Redneckman]

Whoever wins Colorado is going to win the election IMO. Better move the democratic illegal and dead voter machine to Denver, and you'll be fine, gtc.

 

[D2bets]

Whoever wins Colorado is going to win the election IMO. Better move the democratic illegal and dead voter machine to Denver, and you'll be fine, gtc.

I hope that is true because Obama is going to win CO.

 

[D2bets]

Only truthful thing about the first post is they should forget Ohio. Just spend enough to make McCain defend there.

Florida/VA better chance of flipping

Obviously the other swing states too.

You think Florida has a better chance of flipping than Ohio? I respectfully disagree big time.

 

[Romanowski]

gtc you are pushing 10 threads for the day

take a valium or go study for a fake MBA course while you get your fake MBA degree

 

[gtc08]

gtc you are pushing 10 threads for the day

take a valium or go study for a fake MBA course while you get your fake MBA degree

romo, i have no qualms with you. i dont know why you would attack me.

 

[Romanowski]

join the foots challenge in the sticky above pal

and maybe dont start so many threads

youre looney but you have a right to voice your opinions

 

[BetIt]

You think Florida has a better chance of flipping than Ohio? I respectfully disagree big time.

Yeah I didn't until looking at it more closely.

Mainly b/c I don't think McCain carries the Latino vote the same way Bush did in 2004 (in Florida). One of the major differences between 2000 Florida & 2004 Florida is Bush won Latinos 49-48 in 2000 and crushed 56-44 in 2004. Add to that the increase turnout from 11% to 15% in 2004....it made up the 3 point bump Bush got there. I think the main reason for such a disparity was Mel Martinez being on the ballot....He was a Cuban American (which makes up a large portion of the Florida Latino population), Bush's right hand man, and his entree into that community... add to that the increase African American turnout and I think you see a Florida closer to 2000 than 2004.

 

[D2bets]

Yeah I didn't until looking at it more closely.

Mainly b/c I don't think McCain carries the Latino vote the same way Bush did in 2004 (in Florida). One of the major differences between 2000 Florida & 2004 Florida is Bush won Latinos 49-48 in 2000 and crushed 56-44 in 2004. Add to that the increase turnout from 11% to 15% in 2004....it made up the 3 point bump Bush got there. I think the main reason for such a disparity was Mel Martinez being on the ballot....He was a Cuban American (which makes up a large portion of the Florida Latino population), Bush's right hand man, and his entree into that community... add to that the increase African American turnout and I think you see a Florida closer to 2000 than 2004.

Good points, and I hope you are right about Florida, but I still think Ohio is very doable and more likely.

Florida close to 2000. :grandmais

But what about the Jewish vote. I think Obama ultimately wins it, but certainly not to the extent that Gore/Lieberman did in 2000? Plus, all the old farts in Fla are McCain's natural constitutuency.

 

[BetIt]

I'm not seeing any records of the jewish vote in 2000 but I do see Kerry won it in 2004 80%-20%....

CNN is also showing a 6 pt bump Bush got from African American in 2004 from 2000....doubt you see that number replicated.

Florida is going to be much closer in 2008 than in 2004....not sure if it's enough to overturn it but we will see.

 

[gtc08]

On Tuesday, Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe sent a video to reporters laying out the political landscape with less than 50 days until the election. In it, he made a startling pronouncement: the Obama campaign was going to spend a total of $39 million in Florida, a state that, while classified as a battleground, is considered a long shot for the Democrat.

"Bush won Florida by 380,000 votes in 2004. If you look at the number of registered African-Americans who did not turn out in '04 it is over a half million; 900,000 registered young voters didn't turn out. There are over 1.4 million voters who we consider base voters who didn't register. Obviously there are a couple million more registered targets," explained Plouffe. "We have enough base voters in Florida to win the election if we can just turn them out.

 

[Romanowski]

Rock the Vote

 

[D2bets]

On Tuesday, Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe sent a video to reporters laying out the political landscape with less than 50 days until the election. In it, he made a startling pronouncement: the Obama campaign was going to spend a total of $39 million in Florida, a state that, while classified as a battleground, is considered a long shot for the Democrat.

"Bush won Florida by 380,000 votes in 2004. If you look at the number of registered African-Americans who did not turn out in '04 it is over a half million; 900,000 registered young voters didn't turn out. There are over 1.4 million voters who we consider base voters who didn't register. Obviously there are a couple million more registered targets," explained Plouffe. "We have enough base voters in Florida to win the election if we can just turn them out.

When Plouffe speaks, I listen. This guy is an election numbers wizard.