Gamblers Ave would of fvcked us all in a heartbeat.

[krackman]

I was at a gaming convention in Las Vegas about six weeks ago when Mike came up and introduced himself to me. I pulled him to the side and told him that I heard earlier that day he ran a small book and I was told not to play with them. He was taken back and wanted to know who told me that and of course I said that it didn't matter. He was a little irate but assured me everything was fine and gave me his business card.

Three weeks went by and someone that owed me a dime called me and said can he pay me through Gamblers Ave? I said I didn't have an account there but I would call and see what they could do for me. I called spoke to Fred and he had an account set up for me. I decided that since I met Mike in Vegas a few weeks earlier I would not cash out the dime but give him a play so I actually sent over 2500 more. I placed one wager of $500 and it won and then noticed they had a very run of the mill vanilla line, no props, and no money lines.

I called up Freddy and asked him about it and he said the book really wasn't for players like me and we agreed to shut my account. I told him to send me back my money which he said yes to. I went on vaca for two weeks the next day and when I returned home last week I noticed the money was still in GA. I called and Fred said "Yeah Mike told me weeks ago he was going to talk to you since he knew you" Talk to me? About what just pay me!

Well, there you have it! They were in trouble for at least a month now and had every intent on stealing our money. Who the fvck do you think we are Mike? The poster intelligence level is much higher then that of many people who run the books out there and that is scary.

These fvcking books are only as good as there last payouts.

 

[krackman]

This all came very close not to going down. In the end Mike was only looking out for Mike.

Royal is a savior

I wish I had the option to do a 5x rollover of the six figures I lost in the last two years with a book.

 

[Journeyman]

One guy doing payouts= Stall tactics...I never understood how they could get away with that and everyone just accepted it...'Oh Fredd is out' was he ever out when money was coming in?

Its bad enough what happened, the sequence of events that led up to the final straw (ridiculous bonus offers etc) but then to have the nerve to insult everyone and post after Roayal buys them out, that they were fine,LMFAO!

 

[Halifax]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
One guy doing payouts= Stall tactics...I never understood how they could get away with that and everyone just accepted it...'Oh Fredd is out' was he ever out when money was coming in?

Its bad enough what happened, the sequence of events that led up to the final straw (ridiculous bonus offers etc) but then to have the nerve to insult everyone and post after Roayal buys them out, that they were fine,LMFAO!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Journeyman:

Well, from what you just posted, it seems that you knew all along that the shit was soon going to hit the fan.

If so, it's peculiar that you posted the following two days ago:




"Journeyman

Eddie Murray Player of the 80`s
posted November 03, 2003 12:38 AM

just more bullsh!t so far???

Where is the evidence, so far I see none???

Where are the slowpays etc...? NONE?

Yes they have given away alot of bonuses and yes they have been the Monte Hall of the forum, but they also have answered every concern....

Is anyone being stiffed, if so where are they? Surfrat is NOT Mike Silver...I know this...

Posts: 8481 | From: The Incredible HULK....... | Registered: July 07, 2002"



If you don't know shit, it's best to keep your mouth shut.

And if you're going to outright lie, it's best that your lie doesn't directly contradict something you've posted two days earlier.

 

[Journeyman]

Where did I lie asshole? I said Surfrat was not Mike Silver !?!?

The rest was me asking questions , there was NO LINE when that was posted? No one was being stiffed, I asked WHERE IS THE LINE? I ASKED WHO WAS BEING STIFFED? No one at that point was, and until then I was giving the benefit of doubt...Don`t try bringing me ino this so you can run back and post what a hero you are to your fan club... Never once have I propped a book I haven`t played at...I ran a contest for them , that was it...I never said anywhere I played their, NEVER! Don`t twist around me asking QUESTIONS , I WAS ASKING WHERE IS THE LINE? At that point before the run on the bank it was all rumor...EAT SHIT!

 

[Journeyman]

Any problem they ever had, they were here in this forum the same day addressing and correcting...ViniVidVinci that same day said he was paid out and 2-3 dimes no problem, and said he never had any problem getting paid ...as did others who are known around here...
Anyone had a problem and it would be corrected the same day, in my opinion they had too many of these situations ...I would have never played there but that doesn`t mean I should come on the forum and say "I personally wouldn`t play there" I personally wouldn`t play at 90% of books out there...

 

[Halifax]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
Where did I lie asshole? I said Surfrat was not Mike Silver !?!?

The rest was me asking questions , there was NO LINE when that was posted? No one was being stiffed, I asked WHERE IS THE LINE? I ASKED WHO WAS BEING STIFFED? No one at that point was, and until then I was giving the benefit of doubt...Don`t try bringing me ino this so you can run back and post what a hero you are to your fan club... Never once have I propped a book I haven`t played at...I ran a contest for them , that was it...I never said anywhere I played their, NEVER! Don`t twist around me asking QUESTIONS , I WAS ASKING WHERE IS THE LINE? At that point before the run on the bank it was all rumor...EAT SHIT!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alright, Little Johnny, I'll show you where you lied:


Three Days Ago:

"Where is the evidence, so far I see none???

Where are the slowpays etc...? NONE?"



Last Night:

"One guy doing payouts= Stall tactics...I never understood how they could get away with that and everyone just accepted it"

----------------

So basically, three days ago, you said that you saw no evidence and saw no slow pays, yet last night you refer to their ongoing "stall tactics" and how you "never understood how they could get away with that".

Looks like a lie to me.

And I have no fan club. If you're referring to Peep's place, you've posted there three times as much as I have in the last few weeks.

And stop calling me an asshole, you're making me CRYYYY.

 

[jgerson]

Thanks for the information. I had a similar situation earlier this year with Betzz. These casinos obviously won't make it in business very long thanks to the prescription that allows us gamblers to communicate about the these scandalous offshore books. Let us know if you hear of any other fraudulent sports books.

 

[SrMuny]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jgerson:
These casinos obviously won't make it in business very long thanks to the prescription that allows us gamblers to communicate about the these scandalous offshore books..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

These DIRTBAGS will be around LONGER than you and I..........Its a SAD FACT, that most players getting ROBBED by these operations, dont even know the THE RX or others so called WATCHDOG SITES exist.........

 

[GringoinCR]

The really sad fact is they are probably opening up under a new name as we speak. The only way we can beat these guys is to only play with books that have been around many years.

 

[Journeyman]

Halifax ...Whatever...you wanna email me and I will explain.. I'm not going to sit here and have my words twisted...

 

[drunkguy]

I'm glad to see everyone saw this coming. How come you didn't warn people a month ago when it was so obvious?