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(CNN) -- As NASA prepares to hunt for Earth-like planets in our corner of the Milky Way galaxy, there's new buzz that "Star Trek's" vision of a universe full of life may not be that far-fetched.


Pointy-eared aliens traveling at light speed are staying firmly in science fiction, but scientists are offering fresh insights into the possible existence of inhabited worlds and intelligent civilizations in space.


There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way, or one for every sun-type star in the galaxy, said Alan Boss, an astronomer with the Carnegie Institution and author of the new book "The Crowded Universe: The Search for Living Planets."


He made the prediction based on the number of "super-Earths" -- planets several times the mass of the Earth, but smaller than gas giants like Jupiter -- discovered so far circling stars outside the solar system.


Boss said that if any of the billions of Earth-like worlds he believes exist in the Milky Way have liquid water, they are likely to be home to some type of life.


"Now that's not saying that they're all going to be crawling with intelligent human beings or even dinosaurs," he said.


"But I would suspect that the great majority of them at least will have some sort of primitive life, like bacteria or some of the multicellular creatures that populated our Earth for the first 3 billion years of its existence."


Putting a number on alien worlds

Other scientists are taking another approach: an analysis that suggests there could be hundreds, even thousands, of intelligent civilizations in the Milky Way.


Researchers at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland constructed a computer model to create a synthetic galaxy with billions of stars and planets. They then studied how life evolved under various conditions in this virtual world, using a supercomputer to crunch the results.
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In a paper published recently in the International Journal of Astrobiology, the researchers concluded that based on what they saw, at least 361 intelligent civilizations have emerged in the Milky Way since its creation, and as many as 38,000 may have formed.


Duncan Forgan, a doctoral candidate at the university who led the study, said he was surprised by the hardiness of life on these other worlds.


"The computer model takes into account what we refer to as resetting or extinction events. The classic example is the asteroid impact that may have wiped out the dinosaurs," Forgan said.


"I half-expected these events to disallow the rise of intelligence, and yet civilizations seemed to flourish."


Forgan readily admits the results are an educated guess at best, since there are still many unanswered questions about how life formed on Earth and only limited information about the 330 "exoplanets" -- those circling sun-like stars outside the solar system -- discovered so far.


The first was confirmed in 1995 and the latest just this month when Europe's COROT space telescope spotted the smallest terrestrial exoplanet ever found. With a diameter less than twice the size of Earth, the planet orbits very close to its star and has temperatures up to 1,500° Celsius (more than 2,700° Fahrenheit), according to the European Space Agency. It may be rocky and covered in lava.


Hunt for habitable planets

NASA is hoping to find much more habitable worlds with the help of the upcoming Kepler mission. The spacecraft, set to be launched from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida next week, will search for Earth-size planets in our part of the galaxy.
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Kepler contains a special telescope that will study 100,000 stars in the Cygnus-Lyra region of the Milky Way for more than three years. It will look for small dips in a star's brightness, which can mean an orbiting planet is passing in front it -- an event called a transit.


"It's akin to measuring a flea as it creeps across the headlight of an automobile at night," said Kepler project manager James Fanson during a during a NASA news conference.


The focus of the mission is finding planets in a star's habitable zone, an orbit that would ensure temperatures in which life could exist.
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Boss, who serves on the Kepler Science Council, said scientists should know by 2013 -- the end of Kepler's mission -- whether life in the universe could be widespread.


Finding intelligent life is a very different matter. For all the speculation about the possibility of other civilizations in the universe, the question remains: If the rise of life on Earth isn't unique and aliens are common, why haven't they shown up or contacted us? The contradiction was famously summed up by the physicist Enrico Fermi in 1950 in what became known as the Fermi paradox: "Where is everybody?"


The answer may be the vastness of time and space, scientists explained.


"Civilizations come and go," Boss said. "Chances are, if you do happen to find a planet which is going to have intelligent life, it's not going to be in [the same] phase of us. It may have formed a billion years ago, or maybe it's not going to form for another billion years."


Even if intelligent civilizations did exist at the same time, they probably would be be separated by tens of thousands of light years, Forgan said. If aliens have just switched on their transmitter to communicate, it could take us hundreds of centuries to receive their message, he added.


As for interstellar travel, the huge distances virtually rule out any extraterrestrial visitors. iReport.com: Share your view of the universe
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To illustrate, Boss said the fastest rockets available to us right now are those being used in NASA's New Horizons mission to Pluto. Even going at that rate of speed, it would take 100,000 years to get from Earth to the closest star outside the solar system, he added.


"So when you think about that, maybe we shouldn't be worried about having interstellar air raids any time soon," Boss said. <!--startclickprintexclude-->

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Maybe they'll have more luck finding intelligent civilizations in space then here in the inner cities.
 

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I have always believed there is othe rintelligent life in the universe at least. To me the large number of planets makes it extremely likely.
 

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I have always believed there is othe rintelligent life in the universe at least. To me the large number of planets makes it extremely likely.
Yeah. I agree. There are so many other planets. There is life of some kind, somewhere else. Exactly what though. Who even knows.


The equipment we have is just too slow to really discover and check out everything, just taking a good look at Mars is quite a task.

Discovering intelligent life on another planet? Even if it exists, it probably won't happen in our lifetimes.
 

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I have always believed there is othe rintelligent life in the universe at least. To me the large number of planets makes it extremely likely.

yeah the conclusion to the article is pretty much spot on IMO

we will never be able to communicate or interact with them though because they are way too far away

we are pretty much stuck with earth and on our own

no colonization of other planets sci-fi type shit gonna happen

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"Civilizations come and go," Boss said. "Chances are, if you do happen to find a planet which is going to have intelligent life, it's not going to be in [the same] phase of us. It may have formed a billion years ago, or maybe it's not going to form for another billion years."


Even if intelligent civilizations did exist at the same time, they probably would be be separated by tens of thousands of light years, Forgan said. If aliens have just switched on their transmitter to communicate, it could take us hundreds of centuries to receive their message, he added.


As for interstellar travel, the huge distances virtually rule out any extraterrestrial visitors. iReport.com: Share your view of the universe
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To illustrate, Boss said the fastest rockets available to us right now are those being used in NASA's New Horizons mission to Pluto. Even going at that rate of speed, it would take 100,000 years to get from Earth to the closest star outside the solar system, he added.


"So when you think about that, maybe we shouldn't be worried about having interstellar air raids any time soon," Boss said. <!--startclickprintexclude-->
 

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I'm not sure who said it but I liked the quote
"Whether we are alone in the universe or whether we aren't alone both are scary thoughts"
 

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humans will be extinct at some point

earth unihabitable in about 1 billion years as the sun expands

we probably won't make it that long anyway
 
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humans will be extinct at some point

earth unihabitable in about 1 billion years as the sun expands

we probably won't make it that long anyway

Seeing the scientific progress we made in the last few hundred years I daresay if mankind exists for another billion years we will find a solution for that problem, either by messing with the sun or by finding another planet to live on (I assume that we have colonised other planets by then anyway).
Of course no-one can predict how long mankind will last but arguably we already are the most adaptable species on the planet and unless we kill ourselves in the nearer future I believe we should be able to deal with any crisis, at least in a way that prevents our extinction.
 

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Probably the one thing I'd love to find out before I die. And I won't. Are we alone?

What happens when we find a planet just like ours and they have 3-4 different religions, none of which are like any of ours? Or no religion at all? Do they all go to hell?
 

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Seeing the scientific progress we made in the last few hundred years I daresay if mankind exists for another billion years we will find a solution for that problem, either by messing with the sun or by finding another planet to live on (I assume that we have colonised other planets by then anyway).
Of course no-one can predict how long mankind will last but arguably we already are the most adaptable species on the planet and unless we kill ourselves in the nearer future I believe we should be able to deal with any crisis, at least in a way that prevents our extinction.

we are at the sun's mercy there's no "messing with" that can be done

the sun emits the equivalent of 80 million nuclear bombs per second

as for colonizing planets everything from the earth in is toast.....it won't survive at some point due to the sun......

plus the expansion of the sun is the sun dieing eventually it's done for and i see no way humans can survive without the sun's energy

like if the sun burnt out tomorrow we are toast done for.....extinct along with ever other species on our planet

i think the outer planets (their moons) could be potentially a location to setup shop in the future as the sun expands and the earth gets to fuckin hot

outside our solar system gonna be tough to physically reach (just due to length of time it takes to travel there) IMO regardless of how good the space technology gets

regardless A. each other B. mother nature throwing a bug at us we can't stop C. meteor strike we can't deflect or D. who knows? probably gets us way before than anyway
 
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Probably the one thing I'd love to find out before I die. And I won't. Are we alone?

What happens when we find a planet just like ours and they have 3-4 different religions, none of which are like any of ours? Or no religion at all? Do they all go to hell?

curious to see if they find any life on mars

as for intelligent life not gonna be found as far as hard data in our lifetime by us

only hope is some other people somewhere are extremely way ahead of us technologically and find us
 

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Tiz, if our scientific knowledge continues to increase exponentially I'm sure in a billion years we'll be able to control the sun or build, whenever necessary, a new sun.
Also, who says we won't find better ways for interstellar travel?

I think even today we are in a position to contain even the deadliest bug, at least enough to ensure mankind does not become extinct, and meteors will, I believe, be only a significant danger for the next few hundred years, after that we should have the means to destroy in time anything that comes.
 

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Tiz, if our scientific knowledge continues to increase exponentially I'm sure in a billion years we'll be able to control the sun or build, whenever necessary, a new sun.
Also, who says we won't find better ways for interstellar travel?

I think even today we are in a position to contain even the deadliest bug, at least enough to ensure mankind does not become extinct, and meteors will, I believe, be only a significant danger for the next few hundred years, after that we should have the means to destroy in time anything that comes.

how are you gonna "build a sun"

control it? control something emitting 80 million nukes per sec...umm...okay....

as for interstellar travel we are gonna have to warp space or something really sci-fi to get outside our solar system in any reasonable amount of time

plus i'm guessing our limitations aren't necessary how fast we can make something travel but rather how fast we can go till man can no longer survive while traveling in the ship

the speed limit is the speed of light
 
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we are having a hard enough time trying to figure out how to harness the sun's insanely massive amounts of energy that hits our earth every day to be compete with what mother nature gave us oil

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I refuse to think we're the only ones in this vast expanse of outter space. It's got to be impossible.
 

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Anyone see the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? The concept still blows my mind that if extraterrestrial (spelling) contact is made with one another that the actual interaction with the other "being" would be for only a few seconds. And thats how all contact is made with other beings within the universe. For only a slight instance. And that its been done that way since the beginning of time.
 

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curious to see if they find any life on mars

as for intelligent life not gonna be found as far as hard data in our lifetime by us

only hope is some other people somewhere are extremely way ahead of us technologically and find us

A professor from an evolution class brought up and interesting point that I'll never forget. "If another form of intelligent life actually found us, are we so sure we wanna be found?" Meaning, if their technology is so far advanced that they're able to travel space in ways we can't even fathom......is that actually good thing?

Never forgot that one.
 

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how are you gonna "build a sun"

control it? control something emitting 80 million nukes per sec...umm...okay....

as for interstellar travel we are gonna have to warp space or something really sci-fi to get outside our solar system in any reasonable amount of time

plus i'm guessing our limitations aren't necessary how fast we can make something travel but rather how fast we can go till man can no longer survive while traveling in the ship

the speed limit is the speed of light

Tiz, in just a few hundred years science will be able to do things we cannot even dream about today. You can ridicule it any way you want but I'm certain that a very highly developed civilisation will be able to control and/or build suns, and if nothing unexpected happens mankind will have reached this level long before the sun gets out of control.
And just because we don't know yet how it might be possible to move from one place to another faster than the speed of light (or probably rather: in a different way) does not mean we will never learn.

Really, Tiz, if our ancestors all had been like you I guess we'd still be living in caves worrying about future dangers instead of developing to meet them.
 

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