For all you clueless folks, here is the real deal with sports and steriods.

[Ladeda]

* It doesn't matter what sport, IT IS HAPPENING!
Tennis, baseball, badmitton, etc. You name it, if it can help your performance someone is trying it.

* Even your childhood heroes would have done it if it was available and others were doing it!
It's comical to me when fans say they wont accept any of the modern atheletes as if their heroes like Pete Rose, Bob Gibson wouldn't have done it if available. Those guys were just as competetive if not moreso then modern players and would have done it in a heartbeat.

* You would take PED's if you were in their shoes. Stop being a fucking hypocrite.
See average joes in everyday life angle shoot and try to find shortcuts to make a few bucks. These guys are doing it for millions and millions of dollars. 90% of everyday folks would do much worse for a much smaller payoff.

 

[onemwtheone]

Boy, you're taking this Manny thing hard.

 

[Ladeda]

I'm not saying all players take them just that many do and almost all would if there were no negative consequences.

Another thing is they will almost all lie about it if caught, just like myself and all of you would. There really isn't much to gain by telling the truth. Thats why they look like such idiots lying when everyone knows they are full of shit.
I actually praise McGwire for refusing to talk instead of feeding us the bullshit.

It is also possible a player might get caught and really be innocent. Or at least unknowing they took a banned substance. Many of these players even the skinny twigs nobody would suspect take a ton of supplements. It would be awfully easy to take one that had a banned substance thrown in without knowing it.
Cole Hamels talked about this recently. How he takes a ton of supplements and says its scary. Here is a guy with a stick figure who NEVER pushes his body (out after 110 everytime, never oithces hurt, etc.)
If a guy like that is taking all that crap imagine what some of these ripped players are using.

 

[Ladeda]

Boy, you're taking this Manny thing hard.

Hey', I'm not even a Manny fan, although I respect his ability. It is more a culmination of reading everybodys reactions everytime a player gets caught. It's beyond hypocritical.

Scary thing is I haven't even turned on ESPN yet today. Those hypocrites are even worse. Cause they exploited all the PED related players and records that were happening last decade. Now they act like its a travesty.

 

[ParanoidAndroid]

Well its a good thing we have Captain Obvious here to help us through this . . .

 

[TomGshotput]

Steroids were available when Bob Gibson and Pete Rose were playing and they chose not to use them. Or are you that clueless about their history

I would be smart enough not to lie about it. At least not as blatantly as Clemens, Rodriguez, Palmeiro, etc., have

 

[TomGshotput]

I actually praise McGwire for refusing to talk instead of feeding us the bullshit

Praise someone for exercising their Constitutional rights? That is just un-American

 

[onemwtheone]

Well, Tom, you're just clueless.

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Should move this to the political forum ...to reach his intended audience

 

[BadCo]

Steroids were available when Bob Gibson and Pete Rose were playing and they chose not to use them. Or are you that clueless about their history

I would be smart enough not to lie about it. At least not as blatantly as Clemens, Rodriguez, Palmeiro, etc., have

It was conventional wisdom back then for baseball players not to lift weights as it was thought that the bulk would impair their performance as to fielding the ball and so forth.

 

[TomGshotput]

The reason is immaterial, all that matters is that they had the means to use steroids and they chose not to

For a long time it was conventional wisdom that football players not lift weight, too

onemwtheone, you're wrong. I'm even more clueless. But at least I'm getting paid to write this

 

[raylewis]

It was conventional wisdom back then for baseball players not to lift weights as it was thought that the bulk would impair their performance as to fielding the ball and so forth.

There was no conventional wisdom regarding performance enhancers back then. For all you knew, they could have taken them without it being reported. Who knows, maybe they thought you can just take them back then without having to lift weights. No one really knows. They weren't under the microscope like today's players are today.