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The slaughter of seals in Canada is barbaric, inhumane and totally turns my stomach ... hope these bastards all rot in hell as this is a bloodsport that is flappin gross ...

Please go online and sign the following petition and pass it along to as many folks as ya know possible as what they do to these seals is beyond description:

http://hsus.ga4.org/campaign/protectseals?source=GABADC
 
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Save a seal. Club a Canuk.
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA -->Fishermen in Canada have begun what is expected to be one of the biggest seal-hunting seasons in decades.

The hunters returned to the ice floes after the government gave the go-ahead for more than 300,000 seals to be killed this year.

Authorities say the hunt is now more humane and that the rising seal population needs to be controlled.

As in previous years, animal rights groups are campaigning against the hunt, which they say is cruel.

The activists also say Canada is trying to appease fishing communities for political reasons.

The fishermen blame the seals for the devastation of Canada's fish stocks and have pressed for a renewed culling.

The two-month hunt takes place on ice floes off the Atlantic coast, where the seals give birth.

Earlier this month, the Department of Fisheries and Oceans said in a statement that Canada's seal population was healthy and abundant.

"The harp seal herd - the most important seal herd for this industry - is estimated at around five million animals, nearly the highest level ever recorded, and almost triple what it was in the 1970s."

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Large-scale hunting will be allowed to continue until the number falls to under four million.

One official told the AFP news agency: "We have to do our job responsibly. We are looking at the middle ground, taking into account conservation and the economic needs of the region."

But anti-hunt activists, who claim many animals are skinned alive and die in agony, say they will press ahead with a boycott of Canadian seafood.

"I think that [the Canadian government] are feeling the heat... they can see the really serious implication of going ahead with the hunt this year," said Pat Ragan, of the Humane Society of the United States. "We're going to be encouraging consumers to enter into dialogue with their grocery stores and their restaurants and say, 'Please don't serve Canadian seafood', or, 'I won't buy Canadian seafood until this hunt is over'," she told Reuters news agency. The seal hunt in Newfoundland and Labrador went into decline some 25 years ago, after images of hunters clubbing infant seals horrified TV viewers across the world.

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hi-ho hi-ho...

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its off to work we go


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we work all day and get good pay

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So if you stick a club with a hook into a dog and drag it along the street in Canada is that ok too?
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=bottom>Facts about the Canadian Seal Hunt</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>
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What Seals Are Targeted by Canada's Seal Hunt?
Harp seals are the primary target of the commercial seal hunt. Fully 95% of the seals killed over the past five years have been harp seal pups between 12 days and 12 weeks of age. To a much lesser degree, hooded seals over one year of age are also killed.

Where Are the Seals Killed?
Canada's commercial seal hunt occurs on the ice floes off Canada's East Coast in two areas: the Gulf of St. Lawrence (west of Newfoundland and east of the Magdalen Islands) and the "Front" (northeast of Newfoundland).

<TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 1em; WIDTH: 120px" align=right><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 100%"></COLGROUP><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Who Kills Seals and Why?
Sealing is an off-season activity conducted by fishermen from Canada's East Coast. They make, on average, a small fraction of their annual incomes from sealing—and the rest from commercial fisheries. Even in Newfoundland, where 90% of sealers live, there are only 4,000 fishermen who actively participate in the seal hunt each year.

How Are the Seals Killed?
The Canadian Marine Mammal Regulations, which govern the hunt, stipulate sealers may kill seals with wooden clubs, hakapiks (large ice-pick-like clubs) and guns. In the Gulf of St. Lawrence, clubs and hakapiks are the killing implement of choice, and in the Front, guns are more widely used.

It is important to note that each killing method is demonstrably cruel. Because sealers shoot at seals from moving boats, the pups are often only wounded. The main sealskin processing plant in Canada deducts $2 from the price they pay for the skins for each bullet hole they find—therefore sealers are loath to shoot seals more than once. As a result, wounded seals are left to suffer in agony—many slip beneath the surface of the water where they die slowly and are never recovered.

Is the Seal Hunt Cruel?
Yes. In 2001, a report by an independent team of veterinarians who studied the hunt concluded that governmental regulations regarding humane killing were neither being respected nor enforced, and that the seal hunt failed to comply with Canada's basic animal welfare regulations. Shockingly, the veterinarians found that in 42% of the cases they studied, the seals had likely been skinned alive while conscious.

Parliamentarians, journalists, and scientists who observe Canada's commercial seal hunt each year continue to report unacceptable levels of cruelty, including sealers dragging conscious seals across the ice floes with boat hooks, shooting seals and leaving them to suffer in agony, stockpiling dead and dying animals, and even skinning seals alive. Click here to see recent video footage of Canada's commercial seal hunt.

How Many Seals Are Killed Each Year?
Hundreds of thousands. Over the past three years, more than a million seals have been killed. In 2004, 365,971 seals were killed—the largest number of seals killed in Canada in more than half a century. The last time this many seals were killed—in the 1950s and 1960s—close to two thirds of the harp seal population was wiped out.

And the actual number of seals killed is probably far higher than the number reported. Many seals are shot at and injured in the course of the hunt, and studies suggest that a significant number of these animals slip beneath the surface of the water, where they die slowly and are never recovered.

Are There Any Penalties When Hunters Exceed the Government's Quota?
No. In 2002, the Canadian government knowingly allowed sealers to exceed the quota by more than 37,000 animals. Sealers had already killed substantially more than the quota allowed by May 15 (the regulated closing date of the seal hunt) and yet the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans chose to extend the sealing season until June. In 2004, sealers killed close to 16,000 seals more than the permitted quota. Again, the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans extended the sealing season until well into June.

What Products Are Made from Seals?
Seals are killed primarily for their fur, which is used to produce fashion garments and other items. There is a small market for seal oil (both for industrial purposes and for human consumption), and seal penises have been sold in Asian markets as an aphrodisiac. There is almost no market for the meat, so seal carcasses are normally left to rot on the ice.

Is the Seal Hunt Economically Important?
No. Sealing is an off-season activity conducted by fishermen from Canada's East Coast. They make, on average, one twentieth of their incomes from seal hunting and the rest from commercial fisheries. Even in Newfoundland, where 90% of sealers live, revenues from the hunt account for less than 1% of the province's economy and only 2% of the landed value of the fishery. According to the Newfoundland government, out of a population of half a million people, only 4,000 fishermen participate in the seal hunt each year.

The commercial seal hunt is an activity that Canada's federal government could easily replace with economic alternatives should it choose to do so.

Does the Government Subsidize the Hunt?
Yes. According to reports from the Canadian Institute for Business and the Environment, more than $20 million in subsidies were provided to the sealing industry between 1995 and 2001. Those subsidies came from entities such as the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, Human Resources Development Council, and Canada Economic Development–Quebec. These subsidies take a variety of forms, including funding the salaries for seal processing plant workers, market research and development trips, and capital acquisitions for processing plants.

Moreover, Canada's commercial seal hunt is also indirectly subsidized by the Norwegian government. A Norwegian company purchases close to 80% of the sealskins produced in Canada in any given year through its Canadian subsidiary. These skins are shipped in an unprocessed state directly to Norway, where they are tanned and re-exported. The Norwegian government provides significant financial assistance to this company each year.

Is It True Seals Are Jeopardizing the Canadian Cod Fishery?
There is no evidence to support this contention. Some fishing industry lobby groups try to claim that seals must be culled to protect fish stocks, but nothing could be further from the truth.

The scientific community agrees that the true cause of the depletion of fish stocks off Canada's East Coast is human over-fishing. Blaming seals for disappearing fish is a convenient way for the fishing industry to divert attention from its irresponsible and environmentally destructive practices that continue today.

In truth, seals, like all marine mammals, are a vital part of the ecosystem of the Northwest Atlantic. Harp seals, which are the primary target of the hunt, are opportunistic feeders, meaning they consume small amounts of many different species. So while approximately 3% of a harp seal's diet may be commercially fished cod, harp seals also eat many significant predators of cod, such as squid. That is why some scientists are concerned that culling harp seals could further inhibit recovery of commercially valuable fish stocks in the Northwest Atlantic.

Are Seals Overpopulated?
No. The Canadian government and sealing industry have, at various times, tried to claim that the harp seal population has "tripled" over the past three decades, or that the harp seal population is "exploding," or that seals are overpopulated.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The harp seal population in the Northwest Atlantic is the world's largest—it is supposed to number in the many millions. This is a migratory population that spans the distance between Canada and Greenland.

In the 1950s and 1960s, over-hunting wiped out close to two-thirds of the harp seal population. By 1974, the population was considered to be in serious trouble, and senior government scientists recommended the commercial hunt be suspended for at least ten years.

In the early 1980s, the European Union banned the import of whitecoat seal skins, effectively removing the principal market for the hunt at the time. For the next decade, the numbers of seals killed in the hunt dramatically declined, and the harp seal population began to recover.

However, according to the last survey conducted by the Canadian government in 1999, the harp seal population stopped recovering in 1996 (when the commercial seal hunt was reintroduced) and began to decline. With more than a million seal pups killed over the past three years alone, we can only wonder what the impact will be on the harp seal population over the coming years.
 
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slighty off topic:
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When is the last time a whale did anything for you?

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I just have one question about whales: who cares? All I ever hear are people pissing and moaning about saving the whales. Why save the whales? Screw them, what have they done for me? How would you like to go to the beach one day and read a sign that says "Sorry, all out of water." Not likely? Think again. Here's a little fact about whales that not many people know:

Whales are drinking all our water and eating our sailors.

When they're not busy ravaging the high seas, they're getting beached and rotting to death out of spite so nobody can enjoy the beach.

Then there are the people who say whales are smart. If whales are so smart, then how come they still haven't learned to breathe under water like everything else that lives in the ocean? They've only had 40-million years to do it and they still don't have their shyt together. And now researchers are saying that they've found gay whales. Duh.

Is it too much to ask for a whale to save me for a change? When is the last time you procrastinated by putting up a stupid web page instead of studying and a whale saved your ass during the test? Never. In fact, when is the last time a whale did anything other than some stupid trick like jumping out of the water? Ooh, the whale can jump out of the water. Big deal. Try building an oil rig, then I'll be impressed A$Shole.

100,219 whales came to this page but left because they can't read.
 
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Frankly, I find any and all hunting barbaric. But this hunt is only for three years, Doc and this is the last year of this. Some consolation in that. My understanding is that this is a population control thing and that fishery supplies have been dwindling since the seal hunt was banned years ago.

But how anyone could club a seal - or any animal for that matter - is beyond me.
 
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Frankly, I find any and all hunting barbaric.


Are you a vegetarian? Do you eat any red meat, poultry, or seafood at all?
 
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Xpanda:

I know, you are correct ... the way they club these animals to death and skin em alive is beyond me

I couldnt do this act if they were paying me a million bucks
 
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JDeuce said:
Frankly, I find any and all hunting barbaric.


Are you a vegetarian?

Recently, yes. But not for moral reasons. I 'get' the dilemma between eating meat and not wanting to kill it yourself. I used to fish a lot growing up, can't even imagine doing that now.

One thing about the seal hunt protests that bother me, tho -- why no outcry over other types of hunting? Modern fishing methods are barbaric, too and many other animals get caught in the nets and drown. That's a slow death.

I guess baby sharks aren't as cute as seal pups.
 
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Xpanda, what about the clothing you wear...belts, cosmetics and shoes...?
 
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She only wears a fig leaf.
 
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Read, again: "I 'get' the dilemma between eating meat and not wanting to kill an animal yourself."

It's like 'getting' that your country needs a military, but not having the stomach to shoot at people on your own.

Also, notorious, read that I didn't turn vegetarian for moral reasons. Yes, I know where my makeup comes from, where my shoes come from, etc. I just could never kill an animal myself. Hence why I find hunting barbaric.

My dad hunts, my grandfather hunts, my sister fishes ... I don't hate them or anything for it, I just personally can't do any of that. I don't even kill spiders or mice in my home. I'm a big fat suck, is all. I couldn't smash a seal over the head with a big stick. Could you?
 

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Due to global warming, ice now breaks up a full 13 weeks earlier than past decades. Polar bears feed on seals while the ice on coastal areas is hard - it's how they hunt. Now that the ice is gone earlier, the polar bears are literally starving to death. They don't have enough fat to live on during their normal fasting period (similiar to hibernation).

Now they these redneck canooks bashed the guts of 300k baby seals (up to 945k over 3 years), can anyone see this as a problem for the polar bears as well?

Kiss the polar bear goodbye. Man has fuked up everything. Wait, we have yet to drill in their backyard. Go ANWAR.

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PS thanks for the link to the petition.

And yes I'm a vegetarian (for 14 years) and no I don't wear leather, and I buy as many natural products as humanly possible.

And JLO is a skanky fuktard wearing real FUR.

http://www.jlodown.com/
 
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Payton:

worse part with "JLo" (by the way, what is up with that crap?) wearing fur is her ass and those big breading hips would take a good pack of animal fur to cover that wide caboose ...
 
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Payton:

good post on the bears ... mankind is destroying everything in sight and I dont see an end in sight ...

I would hate to be a kid with the world we are leaving em ...
 
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Payton said:
Due to global warming, ice now breaks up a full 13 weeks earlier than past decades. Polar bears feed on seals while the ice on coastal areas is hard - it's how they hunt. Now that the ice is gone earlier, the polar bears are literally starving to death.

This has nothing to do with the seal hunt. The sealers are not competing with the polar bears believe you me. A polar bear can kill a man with just a casual wave of the arm, but polar bears don't hunt in the sealing areas it's too far offshore.
 

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Woody,

Do you honestly believe that you can take 300k seals out of an area and not affect a polar bears food source?

Do you think the bears got a notice on the seal bashing and decided to go elsewhere for food?

CHARLOTTETOWN -- The annual seal hunt in the Gulf of St. Lawrence has opened against a backdrop of treacherous conditions on the ice floes and renewed tensions between sealers and international protesters. About 70 sealing vessels headed to the Gulf yesterday, where an estimated 90,000 harp seals will be slaughtered for their skins and oil-rich blubber by the end of the week.


Polar bears are often seen along open leads, where they hunt seals, as well as on the pack ice. Polar bears spend as much time on the ice as they do on land. IN the winter, the bears commonly occur as far south as St. Lawrence island.

Also, the seal splatter event is only 5% of a fisherman's income. They are killing the seals because seals eat PRICEY FISH.

The color of GREED IS REALLY BLOOD RED.

BTW - I am not saying the seal bash is bad soley because it depletes food for the disappearing polar bear. No sane person thinks bashing baby seals is good - ever. If they are reproducing so well, it means there is ample food supply. The fishermen are not content to share with nature.

It's just a ripple effect that we as man take for granted, and often ignore until it's too late. As one domino falls, so does the other.
 

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