try flippen a coin..... thats what i do at times..<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Thanks Fish, I hope the Cheeseheads and the Pack can cover this one....then I can officially be 5-11 for the week. BJ never has a problem grading my Big Score entry...he sees the name Glaken and tosses it in the can.....I've had a horrible year at the Big Score...I wish they still had 1st,2nd,3rd.....not that it would have helped me this year