Fears of Democrat crackdown lead to gun sales boom

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i think it might partially have to do with another D word but.....

more average joes with guns what i like to hear


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The Associated Press
Fri, Nov 7, 2008 (7:42 p.m.)
When 10-year-old Austin Smith heard Barack Obama had been elected president, he had one question: Does this mean I won't get a new gun for Christmas?
That brought his mother, the camouflage-clad Rachel Smith, to Bob Moates Sports Shop on Thursday, where she was picking out that special 20-gauge shotgun _ one of at least five weapons she plans to buy before Obama takes office in January.
Like Smith, gun enthusiasts nationwide are stocking up on firearms out of fears that the combination of an Obama administration and a Democrat-dominated Congress will result in tough new gun laws.
"I think they're going to really try to crack down on guns and make it harder for people to try to purchase them," said Smith, 32, who taught all five of her children _ ages 4 to 10 _ to shoot because the family relies on game for food.
Last month, as an Obama win looked increasingly inevitable, there were more than 108,000 more background checks for gun purchases than in October 2007, a 15 percent increase. And they were up about 8 percent for the year as of Oct. 26, according to the FBI.
No data was available for gun purchases this week, but gun shops from suburban Virginia to the Rockies report record sales since Tuesday's election.
"They're scared to death of losing their rights," said David Hancock, manager of Bob Moates, where sales have nearly doubled in the past week and are up 15 percent for the year. On Election Day, salespeople were called in on their day off because of the crowd.
Obama has said he respects Americans' Second Amendment right to bear arms, but that he favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault and concealed weapons.
As a U.S. Senator, Obama voted to leave gun-makers and dealers open to lawsuits; and as an Illinois state legislator, he supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on all firearms.
During an October appearance in Ohio, Obama sought to reassure gun owners. "I will not take your shotgun away," he said. "I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."
Gun advocates take some solace in the current makeup of the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled 5-4 this summer to strike down the District of Columbia's 32-year ban on handguns. For now, gun rights supporters hold a narrow edge on the court, but Obama could appoint justices who would swing it the other way.
Franklin Gun Shop outside Nashville, Tenn., sold more than 70 guns on Tuesday, making it the biggest sales day since the shop opened eight years ago. Guns & Gear in Cheyenne, Wyo., also set a one-day sales record on Tuesday, only to break that mark on Wednesday.
Stewart Wallin, owner of Get Some Guns in the Salt Lake City suburb of Murray, Utah, said he sold nine assault weapons the day after Obama was elected. That same day, the gun store Cheaper Than Dirt! in Fort Worth, Texas, sold $101,000 worth of merchandise, shattering its single-day sales record, store owner DeWayne Irwin said.
One Georgia gun shop advertised an "Obama sale" on an outdoor sign, but the owner took it down after people complained that the shop appeared to be issuing a call to violence against the country's first black leader.
The president of a Montana gun manufacturer stepped down last month after word that he supported Obama led to calls for a boycott of the company.
While Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, attributes some of the sales boom to the tanking economy, he thinks the Democratic sweep is the top reason why guns are suddenly a hot commodity.
"I don't think he'll be able to stand up to that anti-Second Amendment wing of the Democratic party that's just been spoiling for chance to ban America's guns," LaPierre said of Obama.
During the campaign, the NRA warned that Obama would be the "most antigun president in American history." And while Vice President-elect Joe Biden owns shotguns, he has supported a ban on assault weapons and has said private sellers at gun shows should be required to perform background checks.
But Mark Tushnet, a Harvard Law School professor who has written a book about the gun debate, said new firearms regulations will be a low priority for an Obama administration and Democratic Congress facing a global economic crisis and two wars.
"Maybe the gun-show loophole will be closed, but not much else," he said in an e-mail. "I'd be surprised, for example, if Congress enacted a new assault gun ban."
Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said his organization will continue to press for what he calls "sensible" restrictions _ background checks at gun shows, a ban on military-style assault weapons and cracking down on illegal gun trade. He believes he has the backing of the new administration on those issues, but any fears of a broader crackdown are unfounded.
"The one thing that they agree strongly with us on is that it's too easy for dangerous people to get guns in this country," Helmke said. "I guess if you're a dangerous person you might want to run out there and buy some more, but otherwise you should be OK."
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Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington, Angela K. Brown in Fort Worth, Texas, Kate Brumback in Marietta, Ga., Joe Edwards in Nashville, Tenn., Don Mitchell in Denver, Matt Joyce in Cheyenne, Wyo., and Paul Foy in Salt Lake City contributed to this report.
 

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i dont care if people have guns, but a lot of these idiots let there kids use them.

news story recently about a kid shooting some assault rifle, not having the gun high enough in the air and on the recoil it came back and blew his head off.
 

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I'd get one too if I could.

Fill out the form properly, and give a constitutionally solid reason for the purchase so the bastards can't get back to later with a legally dubious confiscation order.
 

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i dont care if people have guns, but a lot of these idiots let there kids use them.

news story recently about a kid shooting some assault rifle, not having the gun high enough in the air and on the recoil it came back and blew his head off.

idiots teach their kids how to drive

how many people die in cars every year?

time to ban cars :drink:
 

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little bit of a difference with a 15-16 year old driving a car and a 10 year old using a gun he can't control and blowing his head off.
 

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just using one rash scary example to prove your point like most liberals

like i was reading post concealed weapons quotes from michigan and prior to it everybody was freaking out that people would be having shootouts over fender benders and now that its in place they've seen no affect

nothing you can do about a dumb hick teaching his 10 yo to use an assault rifle its his blood and his family if he wants to be a moron that's his choice we can't protect everybody
 

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Anyone ever read Freakanomics?

Swimming Pools are more Dangerous to Kids than guns...
 

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The people should have the right to have guns to protect themselves and their families from bad the people and crocks! This is my position on this here issue.

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tizzie i dont't think you get it. i dont care if people have guns myself. but there needs to be an age requirement and you need to go through some sort of classroom training. i'd say 16 and up go ahead get one if you want.

a 10 year flat out should not be running around with an uzi even if he's got his parents backing him, just like a 12-13 year old shouldn't be out driving a car.

you have the rights to bear arms responsibly, you don't have the right to bear arms and have your kid handling an uzi when he doesnt even know what the hell he's doing. common sense.
 

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Anyone ever read Freakanomics?

Swimming Pools are more Dangerous to Kids than guns...

in gtc's world you couldn't have a swimming pool in your yard unless your kid is of a certain age

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as for 10 yo's running around with uzis gtc umm....maybe on a very very very rare occasion but this isn't happening much if at all
 

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why don't the libbies scare us with 10 yos running around with uzis type talking points with swimming pools :)

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by Steven D. Levitt, Professor of Economics, University of Chicago

[Editor’s note: A version of this piece was published in the Chicago Sun-Times on July 28, 2001 under the title “Pools more dangerous than guns.” ]

What’s more dangerous: a swimming pool or a gun? When it comes to children, there is no comparison: a swimming pool is 100 times more deadly.

In 1997 alone (the last year for which data are available), 742 children under the age of 10 drowned in the United States last year alone. Approximately 550 of those drownings — about 75 percent of the total — occurred in residential swimming pools. According to the most recent statistics, there are about six million residential pools, meaning that one young child drowns annually for every 11,000 pools.

About 175 children under the age of 10 died in 1998 as a result of guns. About two-thirds of those deaths were homicides. There are an estimated 200 million guns in the United States. Doing the math, there is roughly one child killed by guns for every one million guns.

Thus, on average, if you both own a gun and have a swimming pool in the backyard, the swimming pool is about 100 times more likely to kill a child than the gun is.

Don’t get me wrong. My goal is not to promote guns, but rather, to focus parents on an even greater threat to their children. People are well aware of the danger of guns and, by and large, gun owners take the appropriate steps to keep guns away from children. Public attitudes towards pools, however, are much more cavalier because people simply do not know the facts.

It takes thirty seconds for a child to drown. Infants can drown in water as shallow as a few inches. Child drownings are typically silent. As a parent, if you let your guard down for an instant, a pool (or even a bucket of water) may steal your child’s life.

The Consumer Products Safety Commission offers a publication detailing some simple steps for safeguarding pools (available on the internet at http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/359.pdf). The advice is mostly common sense. Included among the suggestions are installing fences that entirely surround the pool, putting locks on the gates, keeping house doors locked so toddlers cannot slip out of the house unmonitored, and installing power safety covers for the pool.

If every parent followed these steps, perhaps as many as 400 lives per year might be saved. This would be more lives saved than from two of the most successful safety-interventions in recent decades: the use of child car seats and the introduction of safer cribs. Potential lives saved from pool safety are far greater than from child-resistant packaging (an estimated 50 lives saved per year), keeping children away from airbags (less than 5 young children a year have been killed by air bags a year on average since their introduction), flame retardant pajamas (perhaps 10 lives saved annually), or safety drawstrings on children’s clothing (two lives saved annually). Simply stated, keeping your children safe around water is one of the single most important things a parent can do to protect a child.

As a father who has lost a son, I know first-hand the unbearable pain that comes with a child’s death. Amidst my grief, I am able to take some small solace in the fact that everything possible was done to fight the disease that took my son’s life. If my son had died in a backyard pool due to my own negligence, I would not even have that to cling to. Parents who have lost children would do anything to get their babies back. Safeguard your pool so you don’t become one of us.

Steven Levitt is a professor of Economics at the University of Chicago and a research associate of the American Bar Foundation. [Editor’s note: John Lott has claimed that this op-ed was written for the express purpose of concealing Levitt’s “rabidly anti-gun” views. ]
 

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Anyone ever read Freakanomics?

Swimming Pools are more Dangerous to Kids than guns...


I loved that chapter in that book about how some kids in colorado took a swimming pool to class and used it to drown a bunch of other kids to death in well laid plan..

Swimming pools are dangerous. They often kill people who dont even swim in them!! just like guns.
 

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I loved that chapter in that book about how some kids in colorado took a swimming pool to class and used it to drown a bunch of other kids to death in well laid plan..

Swimming pools are dangerous. They often kill people who dont even swim in them!! just like guns.

and food (especially the processed unhealthy shit we eat today), tobacco, alcohol, "legal" pharmaceuticals, cars, airplanes, trains, bears (LOL)....you can make a long list
 

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and food (especially the processed unhealthy shit we eat today), tobacco, alcohol, "legal" pharmaceuticals, cars, airplanes, trains, bears (LOL)....you can make a long list


I think you grossly misunderstood my post!:lol:
 

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We also need guns to protect us from the tewwowists, who might set off a nuclear device in New York.
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