"2/12 years in, we had no where near the control of Vietnam that we have in Iraq."
You guys can't control a street, yet you claim to have more control than in Vietnam? Suicide bombings and roadside bombings everyday in Iraq....some control you got there. You guys won't have any more control in 2 years or 20, if you're stupid enough to continue using failed strategies like those that failed in Vietnam. All you did now is create a eastern version of Israel/Palestine.
"Mind you that every American life has value, even though you don't think that."
They do have value, that's why I wouldn't place them in harm's way trying to establish a democracy that will not take hold. We don't owe them a government just because they had a brutal a$$hole dictator take over and loot the treasury...."no nationbuilding" should have been a promise for Dubya to keep but then again he's a politician, should I really expect less than broken promises?
"Ah the crux of the left points Exit Strategy. Even though no war has ever had one. The reality is we will be in Iraq for quite some time, although I would expect some withdrawel in a year, two tops."
Exit strategy. Defeat the enemy to the point where the commander in chief waves the white flag and tells his generals to quit. There are no generals for the opposition, that's why everyday is going to be the same in Iraq, guerilla warfare plays out different from conventional wars.......interesting that you would say we will be in Iraq for quite some time but then flip-flop and state withdrawal in a year or two, tops.....
If we withdraw within a year or two it won't be because the opposition has given up or been defeated......there are millions of arabs over there and all it takes is a small percentage of these rebels to tie the US military down for years...how many Americans would strap on a vest of explosives and die, yet there are willing volunteers over there willing to die everyday?.....Russia quit in Afghanistan after 10 years, we quit Vietnam after 10 years.....any reason why a technologically superior opponent can't win in ten years of fighting a much lesser opponent? Constant guerilla warfare and dragging the war out for years......too much cost in Afghan and Vietnam and this is exactly why we will lose in Iraq also.
If we're smart enough to pull out of Iraq within a year or two it will only save thousands of American lives and billions of dollars that would otherwise be spent doing the same, tired, failed pursuits that were the same failures of campaigns of countries past.
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