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When you elect an arrested development adolescent (most "progressives" are like this) to the White House who sees the world the way a doped-up grad student would, this is what you get:

While the United States has been retrenching, the tide of democracy in the world, which once seemed inexorable, has been receding. In the long run, that’s harmful to U.S. national security, too.

This is coming from the Editorial Board.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...854436-a238-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html

Read it all, there is actually some sanity there.
 

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In March 2009, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made news by presenting Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with a cartoonish “Reset” button that included a bit of a translation error. The U.S. used the Russian word for “overcharged” where “reset” should be. The button was supposed to symbolize newly inaugurated President Obama’s outreach to Russia. In a way, it did.

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Another foreign policy genius, that Hillary!
 

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Rarely has a threat from a U.S. president been dismissed as quickly and comprehensively — as Obama’s warning Friday night to Russian President Vladi*mir Putin. The former community organizer and the former Cold Warrior share the barest of common interests, and their relationship has been defined far more by the vastly different ways they see everything from gay rights to history’s legacy.

Obama called Putin on Saturday and expressed “deep concern over Russia’s clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity, which is a breach of international law,” the White House said.

From a White House podium late Friday, Obama told the Russian government that “there will be costs” for any military foray into Ukraine, including the semiautonomous region of Crimea, a strategically important peninsula on the Black Sea.

Within hours, Putin asked the Russian parliament for approval to send forces into Ukraine. The vote endorsing his request was unanimous, Obama’s warning drowned out by lawmakers’ rousing rendition of Russia’s national anthem at the end of the session. Russian troops now control the Crimean Peninsula
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If it weren't so sad, I'd be laughing.
 

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What happens when a community organizer issues a threat to a former KGB officer?

"Russian forces now have complete operational control of the Crimean peninsula, some 6,000-plus airborne and naval forces, with considerable materiel," a senior official said. "There is no question that they are in an occupation position in Crimea, that they are flying in reinforcements, and they are settling in."
 

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What happens when a community organizer issues a threat to a former KGB officer?

"Russian forces now have complete operational control of the Crimean peninsula, some 6,000-plus airborne and naval forces, with considerable materiel," a senior official said. "There is no question that they are in an occupation position in Crimea, that they are flying in reinforcements, and they are settling in."

The same thing as when a Failed President did in 2008. Nothing. The Russian ignores it and goes about his business as he pleases.
 

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The same thing as when a Failed President did in 2008. Nothing. The Russian ignores it and goes about his business as he pleases.

You are unable to answer any criticism of Obama.

Instead, you'll pathetically bring up the previous Administration.

You're not a lying imbecile or anything.

PS: Bush pushed for Georgia and the Ukraine to join NATO and the other NATO members wouldn't go for it. Bush planned anti missiles to be stationed in Poland, Obama cancelled them.

Bush knew Russia could not be trusted, Obama lives the fairy tale.
 

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You are unable to answer any criticism of Obama.

Instead, you'll pathetically bring up the previous Administration.

You're not a lying imbecile or anything.

PS: Bush pushed for Georgia and the Ukraine to join NATO and the other NATO members wouldn't go for it. Bush planned anti missiles to be stationed in Poland, Obama cancelled them.

Bush knew Russia could not be trusted, Obama lives the fairy tale.

Obama pulled missiles out of Europe didn't he.
 

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Note that this article was written in March 2013:

[h=1]How Not to Negotiate with Russia: The Missile Defense Fiasco[/h]
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Russia’s objections to U.S. missile defense development and deployment have been on the agenda of consecutive American Administrations starting with Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. For President Obama, it became a high priority as Moscow turned missile defense disagreement into a principal bone of contention. But he threw it under the bus, sending all the wrong signals to friend and foe alike. He has also forgone an opportunity to extract important concessions from the Kremlin on Syria and Iraq, for example.
Moscow and Obama’s White House view the missile defense dispute through the prism of a broader U.S. political agenda—and disagreements, such as efforts to further reduce U.S. and Russian nuclear forces, Moscow’s continuous support of the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria, Russia’s lack of real opposition to Iran’s quest for nuclear weapons, and North Korea’s truculence.
Yet the Obama Administration’s decision last Friday to “restructure” European missile defense, announced by Secretary Chuck Hagel, came as a surprise—and a unilateral concession to Moscow.
U.S. abandonment of the SM-3 IIB interceptor might be influenced by the U.S.’s desire to assure Russia that European Phased Adaptive Approach (EPAA) is not a threat.
However, “restructuring” the SM-3 IIB out of existence would not change Russia’s negative position toward EPAA Phase III. It would also not remove Russia’s concerns related to future development of the U.S. system.
As the Russian Foreign Ministry stated, the Kremlin will continue to insist on legally binding guarantees that U.S. missile defenses are not aimed at it and that would allow Russia to access sensitive telemetric data and limit vital parameters of a U.S. strategic defensive system.
Unsurprisingly, the Hagel statement was not enough to satisfy the Kremlin. It pocketed the unprecedented concession and asked for more.
Washington’s decision to scrap plans to place SM-3 IIB missile defense elements in Poland does nothing to address Moscow’s national security concerns and will not affect its stance on the issue, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said. Ryabkov added that there was no connection between Russia’s objections to the deployment of a U.S. missile defense system in Europe and Hagel’s announcement, possibly because there were no negotiations: “That is not a concession to Russia, nor do we regard it as such.… All aspects of strategic uncertainty related to the creation of a US and NATO missile defense system remain. Therefore, our objections also remain.”
Russia has threatened a range of countermeasures against NATO’s missile defenses, including tactical nuclear missile deployment in its Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad and improvements to its strategic nuclear missile arsenal.
The decision to scrap Phase IV of EPAA will damage relations with Poland and signal to Central European states that the Obama Administration cares little about them, as it did not consult or prepare those governments for its action.
This decision reflects the shift away from a Euro-centric strategic posture and is undoing the post–Cold War security system in Europe. All the talk of NATO expansion now sounds hollow, as the U.S. is increasingly focusing in the Asia–Pacific region. With the disengagement from Afghanistan approaching, our allies will wonder about the ability of the alliance to shape a long-term strategy in its out-of-area engagements. Budget concerns may be the driver in D.C., but Europeans may come away questioning the advantages of an Atlantic connection, which would not be in their interest—or ours.
Finally, this is exactly the wrong signal to Iran on the eve of President Obama’s trip to the Middle East. Not only will the U.S. not support a military action of last resort against the Iranian nuclear program; limiting missile defense will severely limit our ability to protect our European allies against the Iranian missile threat.
 

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This is an excerpt from an article written in 2012:
Backgrounder #2650 on Missile Defense
February 8, 2012

Congress Fails to Undo President Obama’s Damage on Missile Defense

By Baker Spring




While the Obama Administration is purportedly discussing missile defense cooperation with the Russian government, press reports indicate that the discussions are really about how the two governments can cooperate in limiting U.S. missile defense options and capabilities.[16] One element of these discussions that has recently concerned Members of Congress was Obama Administration plans to share missile defense technology with Russia, which Russia could use to defeat U.S. missile defense systems more effectively or provide to other countries for the same purpose. Accordingly, the House version of the NDAA prohibited the sharing of sensitive missile defense data with Russia and limited sharing of less sensitive data.[17] The Obama Administration objected to the provision.[18] Despite exhaustive efforts by Senator Mark Kirk (R–IL), the final version of the NDAA is closer to the weaker Senate position.[19]
 

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these dopes spent 5+ years comparing the war in Iraq to Vietnam, were running Congress and America had over 350,000 troops committed to a 2 front war [and every leftist like guesser wanted to end them both immediately] and they are trying to criticize Bush for lack of some sort of muscular engagement of Putin on Georgia now that Obama has egg all over his face.

It is pathetic.
 

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Here is another article written in 2012:

[h=1]Scientists: Bush, Not Obama Was Right on Missile Defense[/h]
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[h=2]Just whom do you trust more with defending America, Mitt Romney or Barack Obama?[/h]Okay, that was too easy. Let’s put it another way: which candidate railed about George W. Bush’s missile system, which strengthened long-range defenses (calling his own system “stronger, smarter, and swifter”), while opting instead for defenses in Europe against shorter-range Iranian missiles, but now may have to backtrack because Iran is likely developing long-range missiles?
Yup. Obama’s your man. And no less than Vladimir Putin acknowledges that Romney’s decisiveness on national defense is giving him pause. After hearing Romney assert that Russia is "without question our No. 1 geopolitical foe" while promising "less flexibility and more backbone," Putin said that Russia’s opposition to an American anti-missile shield in Europe is sound policy. He said Romney,
… has once again confirmed our approach to the issue of missile defense is the right one. He has strengthened our negotiating position on this sensitive and very important issue. The main thing for us is that even if Romney does not win this election, in four years he or somebody with similar views may come to power. And we must take that into account when we consider how to provide for the security of the Russian Federation well into the future.
Russia is upgrading its offensive nuclear arsenal; in May Russia's top general said that Russia could carry out pre-emptive strikes on future missile defense installations in Europe. With that kind of belligerence, is Obama the man we want defending us?
With the Russians looking for offensive room, Obama’s pie-in-the-sky approach to national security is finally drawing some overt criticism. The National Research Council convened a panel of top scientists and military experts, considered to be the nation’s top group of scientists, who concluded that Obama’s plans have failed. They suggested that Obama abandon his plans and follow up with Bush’s. Even Philip E. Coyle III, a former national security official in the Obama White House, agreed that the present system that should be rebuilt from top to bottom because it was aimed toward “producing and fielding hardware” rather than actually devising ways to deflect enemy attacks. The report said that the current generation of antimissile arms was “fragile” and full of “shortcomings that limit their effectiveness against even modestly improved threats.”
L. David Montague, the panel’s co-chairman and a retired president of Lockheed Martin Missiles and Space, said:
For too long, the U.S. has been committed to expensive missile defense strategies without sufficient consideration of the costs and real utility.
In 2002 Bush announced plans to deploy a system that now consists of 30 ground-based interceptors in Alaska and California that are meant to destroy enemy warheads while in flight. In September 2009, Obama stopped focusing on protecting the continental United States and instead focused on defending Europe and the Middle East.
The report only stated what the group of scientists absolutely agreed in, and thus was very sharp and limited in its criticism, which makes its criticism much more powerful. As Montague simply stated, “What we’ve agreed on is what we said in the report.”
Obama has now been called out for his fecklessness. Will the American people listen?
 

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these dopes spent 5+ years comparing the war in Iraq to Vietnam, were running Congress and America had over 350,000 troops committed to a 2 front war [and every leftist like guesser wanted to end them both immediately] and they are trying to criticize Bush for lack of some sort of muscular engagement of Putin on Georgia now that Obama has egg all over his face.

It is pathetic.


It is pathetic and Georgia came down while Bush was a lame duck with 3 months in office. The signs were all there and Obama waited until he had the focus of the world (the winter olympics) and then did the deed despite Obama's warnings. That is in your face. So let's just keep reducing our military strength and see what happens right. Kerry and Obama, the blind leading the blind. Not going on Fox sunday tells you everything you need to know.
 

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It is pathetic and Georgia came down while Bush was a lame duck with 3 months in office. The signs were all there and Obama waited until he had the focus of the world (the winter olympics) and then did the deed despite Obama's warnings. That is in your face. So let's just keep reducing our military strength and see what happens right. Kerry and Obama, the blind leading the blind. Not going on Fox sunday tells you everything you need to know.

Elections have consequences.
 

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The same thing as when a Failed President did in 2008. Nothing. The Russian ignores it and goes about his business as he pleases.

Now let's go back to 2009:
[h=1]White House Scraps Bush’s Approach to Missile Shield [/h]




By PETER BAKER
Published: September 17, 2009
WASHINGTON — President Obama scrapped his predecessor’s proposed antiballistic missile shield in Eastern Europe on Thursday and ordered instead the development of a reconfigured system designed to shoot down short- and medium-range Iranian missiles.
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Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates with Gen. James E. Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at a briefing at the Pentagon on Thursday.

[h=3]Timeline: U.S. Missile Defense[/h]Go to Timeline
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[h=3]The Fallout of a Reversal on Missile Defense[/h] Does President Obama’s decision to reconfigure the Bush plan make sense?
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[h=4]Related[/h][h=2]News Analysis: New Missile Shield Strategy Scales Back Reagan’s Vision (September 18, 2009)[/h][h=2]The Lede: Obama and Gates on Missile Defense[/h][h=2]Transcript: Obama’s Remarks on Missile Defense Strategy (September 18, 2009)[/h][h=2]In Face of U.S. Shift, Europeans Recalibrate (September 18, 2009)[/h][h=2]The Twists and Turns of Missile Defense (September 20, 2009)[/h][h=2]Times Topics: Missiles and Missile Defense Systems[/h]
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President Barack Obama spoke about the missile shield at the White House on Thursday.




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In one of the biggest national security reversals of his young presidency, Mr. Obama canceled former President George W. Bush’s plans to station a radar facility in the Czech Republic and 10 ground-based interceptors in Poland. Instead, he plans to deploy smaller SM-3 interceptors by 2011, first aboard ships and later in Europe, possibly even in Poland or the Czech Republic.
Mr. Obama said that the new system “will provide stronger, smarter and swifter defenses of American forces and America’s allies” to meet a changing threat from Iran. Administration officials cited what they called accumulating evidence that Iran had made more progress than anticipated in building short- and medium-range missiles that could threaten Israel and Europe than it had in developing the intercontinental missiles that the Bush system was more suited to counter.
But the decision churned domestic and international politics as Republican critics at home accused Mr. Obama of betraying allies and caving in to Russian pressure, while officials in Eastern Europe expressed discomfort and confusion at the dramatic shift. President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia, who is to meet with Mr. Obama in New York next week, reacted cautiously as Moscow tried to determine whether the new system was less threatening to its own security.
Mr. Obama’s transformation of the missile defense program is one of his administration’s sharpest revisions of the national security policy he inherited from Mr. Bush. At the same time, he resisted pressure from liberals in his party to eliminate the program altogether and he produced an alternative that effectively guaranteed that the United States would deploy some form of European antimissile shield in the near future.
“President Bush was right that Iran’s ballistic missile program poses a significant threat,” Mr. Obama said. But he said the new assessment of the Iranian threat required a different system using existing technology. “This new approach will provide capabilities sooner, build on proven systems and offer greater defenses against the threat of missile attack than the 2007 European missile defense program,” he said.
The White House adamantly denied that its decision had anything to do with Russian objections to Mr. Bush’s program and said that the United States would continue developing the larger interceptors in case it eventually needed to deploy them. The administration also scrambled to reassure Poland and the Czech Republic that it was not abandoning them.
Mr. Obama called the leaders of both nations to reaffirm what he called “our deep and close ties,” and publicly reiterated America’s commitment under Article 5 of the NATO treaty to come to their defense in the event of an attack. Aides said that Mr. Obama would keep Mr. Bush’s promise to provide a Patriot antimissile battery to Poland.
Yet even as it sought to calm Warsaw and Prague, the administration hoped to use the policy change to mitigate Israel’s desire to take military action against Iran’s nuclear complexes as Iran comes closer to building a warhead and mounting it on a missile. “We hope that it will reassure them that perhaps there’s a little more time here,” Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said of the Israelis.
The decision drew immediate Republican criticism. “Scrapping the U.S. missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic does little more than empower Russia and Iran at the expense of our allies in Europe,” said Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the House Republican leader. “It shows a willful determination to continue ignoring the threat posed by some of the most dangerous regimes in the world.”
Eric S. Edelman, the under secretary of defense under Mr. Bush, said in an interview that the decision had “good news and bad news.”
“It’s better, obviously, to have some missile defense capability there now,” he said. But he said the move would “raise questions” about American commitments and make it harder for the United States to change course if Iran later developed longer-range missiles. “There are going to be enormous repercussions to this decision that will ripple out,” he said.
Mr. Obama stressed that Mr. Gates and the Joint Chiefs of Staff supported the decision, and he sent Mr. Gates, a Republican first appointed by Mr. Bush, to discuss the decision with reporters. Mr. Gates said that the new system would put defenses in place seven years earlier than the Bush plan. While no longer deploying the original interceptors in Poland, the United States “would prefer to put the SM-3s in Poland,” Mr. Gates said.
“Those who say we are scrapping missile defense in Europe are either misinformed or misrepresenting the reality of what we are doing,” Mr. Gates said. He added that the new configuration “provides a better missile defense capability” for Europe and American forces “than the program I recommended almost three years ago.”
Mr. Gates and other officials said Iran was moving quickly toward a workable arsenal of missiles that could strike Israel and Europe. In May, Iran launched the Sejil-2, a successful test of a two-stage solid-fuel missile with an estimated range of 1,200 miles. Unlike Iran’s liquid-fuel missiles, a solid-fuel missile can be stored, moved and fired on shorter notice, and thus is considered a greater threat.
The administration’s new four-phase plan would deploy existing SM-3 interceptors using the sea-based Aegis system in 2011, then deploy an improved version in 2015 both on ships and on land. Rather than the 10 bigger interceptors originally envisioned for Poland, there could be 40 to 50 of the smaller missiles on land by then and more on ships. A more advanced version would be deployed in 2018 and yet another generation in 2020, the latter with more capacity to counter intercontinental missiles.
The interceptors Mr. Bush wanted to put in Poland would not have been deployed until 2018, officials said. The SM-3 missiles have had eight successful tests so far, and were used to shoot down a satellite, although critics said the missiles have not had to cope with the sort of decoys enemies might use. Instead of the sophisticated radar proposed for the Czech Republic, officials said they would rely more on a limited version in Turkey or the Caucasus, as well as satellites and newly developed airborne sensors.
In Moscow, Mr. Medvedev offered a measured reaction. “We appreciate the responsible approach of the U.S. president toward implementing our agreements,” he said on national television. “I am prepared to continue this dialogue.”
 

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Obama was right when he told Putin he would be more flexible after he was reelected. In fact, to prove that, Putin just bent him completely over. We have become the Rodney Dangerfield in world affairs.
 

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Obama was right when he told Putin he would be more flexible after he was reelected. In fact, to prove that, Putin just bent him completely over. We have become the Rodney Dangerfield in world affairs.

2nd time you outright LIED about this. Obama told Putin no such thing. Get your facts straight. Putin has been bending US Presidents over for years. Before Obama, with Obama. Probably after Obama.
 

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2nd time you outright LIED about this. Obama told Putin no such thing. Get your facts straight. Putin has been bending US Presidents over for years. Before Obama, with Obama. Probably after Obama.

Lamer and lamer, you are still defending Obama and for all the wrong reasons. You said Bush was a failure for doing the same thing Obama is doing but you are giving Obama a pass and failing to recognize that he is a failure on his own terms. All the articles above show that Obama went down his own path and that Bush would have gone down a different one. Yet Bush is a failure. Admit it, Obama is a failure and quit defending him. Your zipper is down dude. Bush had 3 months left in office when Georgia came down. He already had Iraq and Afghanistan going and Putin took advantage that he was a lame duck. We are removing troops and reducing our military strength, Putin is expoiting Obama plain and simple. This is as in your face as you can get.
 

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Lamer and lamer, you are still defending Obama and for all the wrong reasons. You said Bush was a failure for doing the same thing Obama doing but you are giving Obama a pass and failing to recognize that he is a failure on his own terms. All the articles above show that Obama went down his own path and that Bush would have gone down a different one. Yet Bush is a failure. Admit it, Obama is a failure and quit defending him. Your zipper is down dude.

You are a LIAR. And you're too stupid, maybe senile? to know why face)(*^%. I am saying the same exact thing about Obama's Ukraine Policy as I'm saying about Bush's Georgia Policy. Giving neither a pass, and defending neither. Hope the results are the same, Zero US Involvement. Seriously, take your dementia drugs.
He'd have to have over 5000 Americans killed on his watch to be anywhere near the failure his predecessor was.
 
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Obama has definitely dropped the ball on this one, Putin is making him look like a fool. I think he would of done the same to Romney but Romney would have a better policy. This type of situation calls for a guy like Ronald Reagan, we don't have that.
 

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Obama has definitely dropped the ball on this one, Putin is making him look like a fool. I think he would of done the same to Romney but Romney would have a better policy. This type of situation calls for a guy like Ronald Reagan, we don't have that.

Obama dropped the ball by issuing a warning. Just dumb, and I wish he'd stop that crap after his Syria debacle. As long as we don't get involved militarily, it's the right policy, IMO.
 

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