Edwin Valero vs Francisco Lorenzo-01/29/04-HBO Latino

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This should be a very exciting fight. Edwin Valero will be the one to make this bout exciting.

Now that Valero will be facing an opponent with at least 20 pro fights under his belt we should not pay so much attention to his 12 first round knockouts. What can not be ignored is the handspeed, punching power, and counter-punching ability that Valero possesses. Valero had a successful amateur career that consisted of approximately 100 fights.

Valero should win this bout because Lorenzo has lost each and every time that he has faced a prospect/contender. Valero is definitely a prospect, but already considered a contender by at least one of the major sanctioning bodies (#12 by WBA) at Super Featherweight.

Although Lorenzo has never been stopped, it would be fair to say that he has never faced a fighter with the speed and punching power of Valero. To add to his troubles, Lorenzo is facing a southpaw in Valero. And in boxing, everyone is susceptible to the big punch, especially when a fighter's skill level is roughly average. The best fighters on Lorenzo's resume are Juan Diaz and Courtney Burton. I am not high on either of those fighters. They are both tough and posses good skills, but I do not think that either will ever reign as a major title holder.

I think that there is a 70% chance that Valero wins by KO. If it goes the distance, he should get the decision. Conditioning should not be a problem for Valero.


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[This message was edited by Boxing Freak on January 20, 2004 at 08:58 PM.]

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As long as this fight happens, I am happy. I win no matter what
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As for the fight itself, I think you underrate Lorenzo. I thought his fight with Juan Diaz was fairly close and I thought he was robbed against Courtney Burton. Lorenzo is a decent little fighter. He has good upperbody movement and isn't that easy to hit clean. The only real negative about Lorenzo is he can't punch.

I did a lot of reading about Valero and can;t wait to see him. if he has a chin, he should be an excellent little fighter. It sounds like he has everything else. I read he has some holes in his defense but if he has a good chin it shouldn;t matter as much. Regardless, this is an interesting fight. It's not a foregone conclusion .

[This message was edited by valdosta on January 21, 2004 at 12:29 AM.]
 

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would be nice to see the guy get out of the first round.....hopefully,that happens....

i don`t think that diaz or burton are legit contenders either..not champions,is what i mean......

i will say that k.o.`ing guys in the first round is not the best way to prep for tougher fights....

i had lorenzo winning vs burton......i`m glad he lost.....although we don`t want burton to lose the bloom he garnered by beating WAY overrated angel manfredy......burton will be a great go against if he gets in with a real warm body...


i think joey`s a little confused about what to post line-wise on this one.....and i don`t blame him...

valero has a great rep....12 fights....12 one round k.o.`s....but vs garbage fighters....even rocque cassiani is nothing more than an opponent nowadays...

lorenzo should be able to give him some work.....hopefully....

was waiting for the reyes/valle line to post.....and was disappointed....was hoping it would be a competitive line....but,-325???....i like valle.....not at over 3-1......that`s crazy......oh well...maybe reyes gets lucky and i feel like a winner for laying off....

g.l.

btw....while i`m here,a couple michael jackson jokes....

1)how does michael jackson pick his nose?


answer).... from a catalog....



2)how many michael jackson`s does it take to screw in a lightbulb?.....

answer)... just one.....but it takes 3 pediatricians to unscrew it.....

try to compose yourselves...
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Sphinc,

Do you know what the Valero line opened at?

I think I am beginning to understand what Val meant by "winning no matter what".
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boxing Freak:
Val,

How is it that you win no matter what?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I took the Olympic line early and bought it back at a different book recently. I can only win. A draw would suck though.
 

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never saw the line at oly....5 dimes has something like -500/+400......no total......
 

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I don't think that Lorenzo will want to stay in there for a full 30 minutes against Valero, who may have the biggest punch at super-featherweight. Yes, he may pull a Clifford Etienne.
 

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maybe it's a good thing. If something is wrong with the guy... you never know. After 4 rounds maybe he'd run out of gas.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:

I was waiting for the reyes/valle line to post.....and was disappointed....was hoping it would be a competitive line....but,-325???....i like valle.....not at over 3-1......that`s crazy......oh well...maybe reyes gets lucky and i feel like a winner for laying off....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shamir Reyes -W10 (96-92, 97-91, 94-94)- Ivan Valle
I guess you feel like a winner, if you did in fact lay off.
 

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i don`t ever go over 3-1....as a matter of fact,2-1 is usually my limit....it really cuts down on my plays....

valle looked horrible(after making a tough angel vasquez quit in his last fight)....bad style match-up....a supposed "wise guy" in ny told me that reyes was nothing....

and after watching the fight,he was right....but,valle couldn`t handle the movement....let the guy clinch him to death....i actually thought it was more one-sided than the judges....

god protects fools and children....
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and to the best of my recollection,nobody on this board has ever given me a blow job....

try and leave me out of any personal squabbles....

thanks...
 

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