Don't forget Pre-emption should pass the "Global Test"

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If you agree with that then vote for Kerry.

If you don't agree vote for the American.
 

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It doesn't really matter anymore.

You're up to your nostrils in snot and shyt in the mid east whichever guy wins/loses.
And personal pride means the 100's of thousands of poor fux who got a free trip to Iraq, courtesy of Uncle Sam, are going to be there so long they can apply for residency.

As usual, the little guys do the heavy lifting for the big assholes.

Meanwhile, whilst talking about risking your life for your country, commander-in-chief superchickenhawk has to watch he doesn't trip over his golfbag and fall into a bunker.
 

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For a country whose intent is to spread liberty (whatever that means) around the globe, it is a matter of simple common sense that you don't piss the majority of the world off.

Unless, of course, it is your belief that you can believe in isolationism as it pertains to others' opinions of the US, but embrace internationalism when another country has something you want.

But of course that's not what you mean ... 'cause that would be a flip-flop and would send mixed messages and blah blah blah barf.

"We don't care what the world thinks of us."

"It's our duty to make the world a safer place."

"It makes sense to spend billions of dollars in Iraq."

"Why are we giving money to Africa for AIDS?"

Like a bunch of spoiled brats, truly.
 

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eek.....agree with you completely.....It won't matter who gets voted in this time, things are so fawked up in Iraq that I really don't expect the next waste of space that gets elected to be able to straighten it out.....

Much cheaper at this point to make Iraq the 51st state.....at least we could tax them for the cost of rebuilding thier own country, and take some of the burden off the first 50 states......Iran could be number 52......North Korea 53....

"Mission accomplished!".......:biglaugh:
 

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What Exactly Is "the Global Test?"

I Never Heard About This Test; Has Anyone In Here Heard Of It Before?
 

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Tommy, Thats what Kerry said during the debate. Something to the effect "Premption should only be used if it passes the Global Test".

In other words he says we can't protect ourselves unless we have France and Uganda and Belise's permission.

See in Kerrys world,Boston,DC or Duluth would have to be in rubble and then Kerry would call a "Summit".

God help us.
 

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Well, technically, if you're interested at all in international law, 'preemptive' wars are deemed legal provided that the aggressor can state suffucient security claims that demonstrate an imminent threat. Since this was obviously not the case in Iraq, you have to conclude that this war was at best 'preventative', which is not legal under international law. (I would argue that the invasion was not even preventative, but, rather aggressive.)

Obviously nobody can stop you from engaging in preventative or aggressive wars, but you have to understand the consequences of ignoring international law. The first casualty is credibility. The second is international cooperation. This might seem all well and good as long as the US remains the top dog in the world, but what if, ten years down the road, this is no longer the case? Do you think it is in the best long-term interests of any country to ignore laws that may ultimately protect you from aggression or to alienate your allies like this?

It's up to you, of course. But as advocates of 'personal responsibility' you need to be willing to consider the consequences of any actions you undertake.

You're making your bed ...
 

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(but what if, ten years down the road, this is no longer the case? )

Well if we sign on to Kyoto and the international courts and other horseshit phoney global baloney thats designed to cut the balls off the USA it won't be the case.

Speaking of credibility if the UN would have done their job with iraq instead of having their fingers in the till maybe the shiit wouldn't have hit the fan.
But they facked that up like everything else they put their "5 fingered discount hands" on.

One thing else about the mideast,once they stop pumping oil and start pumping sand they better ask france for finacial aid,because right now all they have is oil and Allah and those quick easy to use all purpose snap-on suicide vests (now in velcro)....It funny nobody objects to the mideast not joining the global community...But they are bent out of shape when the rich powerfull USA says no to their scams.
Global Community= Global Communism
 

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There is no such thing as International Law.

It's not possible to break a law that does not exist.
 

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If Kerry and the liberal democrats weren't such idiots they'd have a chance to steal the election. Americans do not believe in this nonsense about getting Koffis permission to defend America. Or Oking anything with the French of Germans before we act. This global test BS is not going to get anyone to vote for the clown, it's good they are so out of touch.
 

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I Know Thats What Kerry Said, I Just Dont Understand What He Meant. I Follow World Politics As Much As The Next Guy, But Ive Never Heard Of A Global Test. Was He Referring To A Multiple Choice Thing Or An Essay? Short Answer Format? What Exactly Was He Talking About? What Test?
 

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