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Teddy Kennedy grilling this fine man Alberto Gonzalez over water torture. Shouldn't (give me another shot) Kennedy be in prison over water torture? Only in America. Another clear example of how liberalism is a mental disorder.
 
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Really? Hmm, if it is Prison Time ya want, then grab a Prison garb cause we have plenty of outstanding Repubs that are candidates:

Quick now, has anyone heard of Randy Ankeney? He was a rising star in Colorado Republican circles who held a $63,000 position in the Governor’s Office of Economic Development until he was arrested in 2001 and accused of trying to have sex with a 13-year-old girl he met through the Internet. Police said Ankeney even warned the girl he’d ruin her life if she told anyone. Does that sound familiar? That’s how many of these Republicans keep their affairs quiet - they threaten a bunch of people. Another 17-year-old girl said Ankeney sexually assaulted her while working on a political campaign. In 2002, he pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault of a child. He was sentenced to 22 years in prison in 2003.

How about Parker J. Bena, a Virginia Republican activist who proudly cast one of his state’s electoral vote for Bush in 2000, being indicted for possessing child pornography in 2001? Bena was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Long-time Virginia Republican fund-raiser Richard Delgaudio, 50, was more fortunate. He only received two years probation in 2003 after pleading guilty to taking sexually-related photos of a 16-year-old girl in a motel room. In 2001, Delgaudio was picked up by police in Baltimore’s Patterson Park, an area police said was known for prostitution.

Does Republican Marty Glickman, one of those rabid dog conservative talk radio commentators in Florida who was arrested in 2001 and charged with giving drugs like LSD and money to underaged girls in exchange for sex, ring a bell?

Anyone hear of Kevin T. Coan, a Republican who formerly directed the St. Louis Election Board? He was charged in 2001 with trying to solicit sex from a 14-year-old girl in cyberspace. As of 2003, his case hadn’t been resolved.

Then there was Philip Giordano, the former Republican mayor of Waterbury, Conn., who was sentenced in 2003 to 37 years in prison for soliciting sex with underaged girls and violating their civil rights. It’s more likely you’ve heard of him since this case received ample media coverage.

Another case that got some attention involved Beverly Russell, a leader in the South Carolina Republican Party and the local Christian Coalition who campaigned for presidential candidate Pat Robertson, who allegedly molested his step-daughter, children-drowner Susan Smith.

I’ve been told that numerous Religious Right nuts read sexual material under the guise of knowing what’s in it so they can keep it from their children. Many Religious Rightists also believe a man can have sex with his wife anytime he pleases, whether she wants to or not. Some would call that rape, but I’m sure these nuts have another word for it.


 
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He was sentenced to 22 years in prison in 2003.
Bena was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
He only received two years probation in 2003 after pleading guilty
who was sentenced in 2003 to 37 years in prison for soliciting sex with underaged girls and violating their civil rights.
Ted Kennedy the hero of Chappaquidick...left a woman under water for 10 hours in his car (How that for water torture?)
Manslaughter
Time served 0!

Gee whats wrong with that picture?
 
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Patriot:

I know ... its tragic and things do happen when folks get behind the wheel of a car ... such as with THE FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES:

In May 2000, a two-page police report pertaining to a fatal accident that had taken place near Midland, Texas, in 1963 was made public. It Laura Bush contained the information that 17-year-old Laura Welch had run a stop sign, causing the death of the sole occupant of the vehicle hers had struck. According to that report, the future First Lady had been driving her Chevrolet sedan on a clear night shortly after 8 p.m. on 6 November 1963 when she entered an intersection without heeding the stop sign and there collided with the Corvair sedan driven by 17-year-old Michael Douglas. Also in the car with Laura Welch was a passenger, 17-year-old Judy Dykes.

How fast Miss Welch might have been driving is open to question. That part of the police report is illegible, although two biographies of the First Lady refer to her as having been going 50 mph at the time of the collision. The speed limit on that portion of road was 55 mph. According to the police report neither driver had been drinking, but no tests were performed. No charges were filed as a result of the accident.

News accounts from 1963 reported the young man as having been thrown from his car and dying of a broken neck; he was pronounced dead on arrival at Midland Memorial Hospital. According to various biographies of Mrs. Bush, the boy's father had been travelling in a car immediately behind his son's and witnessed the whole thing.

The two teen girls were taken to the same hospital and treated for minor injuries that amounted to bumps and bruises.

Michael Douglas, the young man who was killed, had been a member of Laura Welch's crowd at high school and her friend. He had been a star athlete, excelling in track and football, and was looked up to by his peers not just for his athlete prowess, but for his personality and intelligence too. By all reports, he was likeable, outgoing, and funny. He was nominated as the school's most popular boy while a junior, an honor that almost always went to a senior.

There has always been speculation about the nature of his relationship with Laura Welch. One rumor asserts the two had never dated, but that Laura had been romantically interested in him. Another claims he had been Laura's boyfriend when he died, and another that he had once been her boyfriend but the couple had subsequently broken up. (The latter theory is advanced in the 2002 biography of the Bushes, George and Laura: Portrait of an American Marriage, which states Laura Welch and Michael Douglas had dated throughout early and mid-1963, but by the fall of that year Michael was going out with Regan Gammon, one of Miss Welch's closest friends.)

The accident is difficult to understand it that it took place on a clear night on dry pavement at a crossroads described as "the middle of nowhere," where the view was unobstructed and the stop sign that faced Laura Welch was clearly visible. (The intersection was a two-way, not a four-way, stop.) Yet looking to only weather and road conditions to explain what happened is to miss the obvious: there were two teen girls in the car, girls who were on their way to a party and thus who likely would have been bubbling over with chatter about who would be there. Laura Welch, the driver, had turned 17 only two days earlier. She and her passenger were still of an age when they could all too easily shut out everything going on around them, even the approach of another car and the recognition of a stop sign.

There are those who want to believe the future First Lady deliberately and with malice aforethought murdered her (ex-)boyfriend over some now forgotten teen tiff and who point to what they view as the suspicious circumstances of the accident and the subsequent lack of prosecution as proofs of their supposition. Yet to entertain such a hypothesis is to believe the young woman would have attempted to kill another by doing away with herself. (As the driver of what was intended to be a murder weapon, she would have had no reason to believe she would survive a collision severe enough to be fatal to her prey — that events turned out that way doesn't mean that outcome could have been reasonably foreseen.) Although the theory of "I'll kill you even though I have to kill myself to do it" might still play in a person sufficiently vengeance-minded (e.g., a suicide bomber), it is far better discounted in cases where an innocent life would also be taken (e.g., a passenger in the car). Those intent upon acts of revenge are generally impelled by a misguided sense of justice, and there is precious little justice (misguided or otherwise) in causing the death of innocent parties.

Then there are the circumstances of the crash. It was 8 pm on a November night in Texas on roads far removed from any town, so it was dark. With no stop sign facing him, the doomed young man would have had no reason to slow his vehicle even if he had seen another car approaching the intersection. He therefore would have been travelling at least 50 mph. Laura Welch ran the stop sign facing her, so there is reason to assume she too was going approximately 50 mph, the speed she would have been doing if she'd had the right of way.

Consider two cars travelling in the dark at right angles to each other, each going approximately 50 mph. The span of time available in which to form murderous intent would have amounted to mere seconds, given the speed at which the event was unfolding and how close the two vehicles had to be to one another before the ill-intentioned would recognize the vehicle of her target. It doesn't add up.

One e-mailed version of the rumor tries to supply an answer to that inconsistency, saying, "She knew it was her boyfriend's car driving south, because of the unique headlight configuration of his 1962 Corvair Sedan." The vehicles were traveling at right angles to one another, so an unusual headlight array on one wouldn't have been visible to the other. (According to the experts, the headlight array on the 1962 Corvair was typical of the cars of the day; two headlights on each side, as this photo shows.)

So 17-year-old Laura Welch did cause the death of a friend by running a stop sign, but to see more in the story than that is to surrender oneself up to baseless imaginings. Yes, it is always easier to attribute malice to bad outcomes, but that does not mean malice is an integral component of tragedy, especially those involving people Fate later chooses to exalt.

According to George and Laura: Portrait of an American Marriage, Laura Welch did not find out that the driver of the other vehicle had died at the scene until later when she and her girlfriend were being treated at the hospital. And she did not learn his identity until later still, when her parents arrived and broke the news to her. It shattered her.

She was barely 17 and she had taken the life of a friend. She has since carried the weight of this, and it changed her, at least according to those who knew her before and after. Only rarely has she spoken of this with the press (although she has often been asked), but even on those occasions her answers have been oblique, almost as if she cannot bear to think of it, let alone speak of it.

Some values, huh?

 
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doc deranged glove,you have to be thee most clueless person ever to darken this board...I mean...unfxckinbelievable...you just can't make this stuff up.
 
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Its public information ....

OK, being she is a Republican this never happended or not a big deal
 
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - At 17, Laura Bush ran a stop sign and crashed into another car, killing her boyfriend who was driving it, according to an accident report released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

Mrs. Bush is the wife of Republican presidential nominee-to-be George W. Bush (news - web sites), the Texas governor.

``It was a very tragic accident that deeply affected the families and was very painful for all involved, including the community at large,'' said her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm. ``To this day, Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it.''

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Daffy doc,

Slow down for one second, do you see the hypocrisy of a person like "give me another double" Kennedy critizing another over water torture?:drink:
 
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true or not
If you can't make the simple distinction of a 17 year old child in an accident,and a 40 year old male drunk driving US Senator who didn't have the balls of a field mouse to help a drowning woman by gettin immediate help or helping himself.
You really should not be let out of the house without proffesional supervision.
 
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GAMEFACE said:
Teddy Kennedy grilling this fine man Alberto Gonzalez over water torture. Shouldn't (give me another shot) Kennedy be in prison over water torture? Only in America. Another clear example of how liberalism is a mental disorder.


teddy kennedy," water torture. i sure wouldn't have any part of that" OMG!!!
 
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Yeah I do ...

Just when I see Blight or others post that Clinton is responsible for the corporate acctg scandals ....

I aint proud of Ted Kennedy ... he is as corrupt as Bush & Cheney and that is saying a lot
 
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Lets talk "realities" about Gonzales ...
  • Gonzales fought passionately with Congress to keep Dick Cheney's super-secret energy commission meeting notes (regarding moves by Enron's Lay and others to shape national energy policy) secret.
  • He's had a pivotal role in the adminstration's efforts to pack the judiciary with extreme right-wing ideologues.
  • He's held a role in promoting excessive secrecy within the Bush White House, interfering with constitutional checks and balances.
  • He's threatened affirmative action policies and has had a role in restricting workers' rights by executive order.
The ties between Bush and Gonzales are strong..... In 96, Gonzales got then-governor Bush excused from jury duty (the hell with fulfilling your civic duty...) which saved Bush from disclosing that pesky 1976 arrest for drunk driving. Gonzales was rewarded with an appointment as secretary of state, and later, a seat on the Texas Supreme Court.

But let's go back a bit further to Gonzales' days as a partner at the Houston law firm Vinson & Elkins. Who was Vinson & Elkins biggest client? Enron. V&E is supected of leaking information to former partners (who were also Enron shareholders) in advance on findings of a probe into Enron's shady business dealings. Enron was one of Gonzales' main financial backers in his 2000 run to hold his seat on the Texas Supreme Court.

When Gonzales was on the Texas Supreme Court, he ruled heavily in favor of big business and accepted large campaign donations from companies that had cases currently before the court. Halliburton, for example.

Halliburton was another major Vinson & Elkins client, and Halliburton has taken very good care of Gonzales. For example, during four months in 1999 when a personnel dispute between Halliburton Co. and a terminated employee reached the Texas Supreme Court, Halliburton made campaign contributions to three justices, with the largest donation going to Gonzales. None of the Justices recused themselves from the case and the Court came through for Halliburton, electing not to hear the case, and letting stand a lower court ruling that erased a $2.6 million verdict against Halliburton. In a seven year period, Halliburton had at least five cases before the court, and each time, the court either declined to hear a case or ruled in the company's favor. McDonald said of Gonzales, "He was pretty good to corporate interests at the expense of consumer interests." In other words, a poster boy for the Bush administration.

The role of the attorney general should be to protect the Constitution as well as American's civil rights and constitutional liberties. The AG should be held to a higher standard as the ulitmate steward of law, not an exploiter of it. Gonzales has a long history of doing just the opposite.
 

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