Do you really want the Democrats controlling all 4 branches of Government?

[C-Gold]

- Executive
- Legislative
- Judicial
- Media ( I know this isn't a real branch but people call them a pseudo branch that sets the agenda and the issues).

I was actually entertained listening to Bill Clinton on TV the other day. He is a political moderate, blue dog democrat and he was talking about voter demographics. He said that pretty much throughout our history 40% of the people will vote Democrat, 40% will vote republican, 5% Indy, and you end up fighting over the rest.

Bill clinton was a moderate, and his strategy played right into the median voter model's theory of winning an election.

Clinton also pointed out that althought we had that historical 40-40-5 mix, in the 80's it was probably more like 40% dem, 45% repub, 5% Indy, and 10% up for grabs.

NOW he says it is most likely 45% dem, 40% repub, 5% indy, and 10% up for grabs. I actually found myself agreeing with a lot of what he was saying, and if I ever had to have a democratic president, I would want a more fiscally conservative one like him ( that lowered cap gains, and divy taxes) and certainly NOT a super liberal socialist like Obama.


The point I am trying to make, is that I would think that most Americans would NOT want to be bombared by Liberals. Bush is unpopular and has a 28% approval rating, but Nancy Pelosi and her Democrat cronies in Congress have a 9% approval rating. Most people don't want the Democrats in control of EVERYTHING.

I think the republicans can use this as a strong sales pitch to Joe Public. Do you really want the Democrats in control of your entire life? What your kids see on TV, the judgements in court, the CEO of the country, and the people spending your money?

 

[Uno]

dammit something i struggle with daily.

congrats on posting something worth reading.

 

[C-Gold]

It sort of goes back to that theory about sports teams. Your normal average team ( not the 07 Miami Dolphins and not your 07 Patriots) will win 33% of their games no matter what, they will lose 33% of their games no matter what, and they have that last 33% of their games they will try and fight to win.

The politicans really have to fight for that middle 10% to win the election, and that greatly favors more moderate candidates ( not the super left or super right).

We all know the democrats have the ball in their court, but if the Republicans paint Obama as the out of touch elitist liberal that he is ( remember Americans cling to guns, bigotries and religion) and also point out that the Dems already have congress ( money), Media, and judicial.... It might be the strategy they need to win in Novemeber.

 

[asufan550]

I think this is the biggest issue at stake - and nobody ever mentions it. It's a scary thought. Checks and balances, particularly between the two parties, are incredibly important. The thought of an all blue nation is terrifying.

 

[C-Gold]

I think this is the biggest issue at stake - and nobody ever mentions it. It's a scary thought. Checks and balances, particularly between the two parties, are incredibly important. The thought of an all blue nation is terrifying.

Yeah it is called socialism. Who do you expect will bring it up... The hollywood liberals in the media? The evening news that blames 99% of the worlds problems on President Bush?

In a few short months George Bush will be gone, and you won't be able to blame him for everything wrong in the world.

 

[BetIt]

Even as a democrat this is actual reasoning that resonates with me. I think too much power for either party generally can be a bad thing.

Probably in the minority but I don't think either of these guys is the devil

 

[Uno]

We all know the democrats have the ball in their court, but if the Republicans paint Obama as the out of touch elitist liberal that he is ( remember Americans cling to guns, bigotries and religion) and also point out that the Dems already have congress ( money), Media, and judicial.... It might be the strategy they need to win in Novemeber.

this is one of many horrible ideas the right has had to try and win this thing. call obama an elitist but mccain cannot tell you how many houses he has.

given it may be the pot running against the kettle but the fact of the matter is most politicians these days are elitists.

being a hypocrite is not gonna get mccain nominated. if they could figure out a way to get it out there that the dems holding the white house and the congress is bad news that would be something that could resonate with the undecideds, like myself.

 

[C-Gold]

Even as a democrat this is actual reasoning that resonates with me. I think too much power for either party generally can be a bad thing.

Probably in the minority but I don't think either of these guys is the devil

Well I don't support the Republican or Democrat party, but if I had to choose and suffer with them both, I would want the power seperated. I would rather have a fiscally conservative legislative branch ( you know, not looting our countries wealth) and I wouldn't mind a mod democrat president like Clinton that will not spend and not start wars.

If I had to split it up...

I'd rather have a dem pres and repub congress than vice versa. I also think the Liberal media might be the worst of all ( attacking our family values etc.). It is good that most people can see through their crap though.

 

[gtc08]

yes we need all blue

 

[C-Gold]

yes we need all blue

Then we need all the Red and 3rd party to start the 2nd revolutionary war.
:machinegu

 

[asufan550]

Well I don't support the Republican or Democrat party, but if I had to choose and suffer with them both, I would want the power seperated. I would rather have a fiscally conservative legislative branch ( you know, not looting our countries wealth) and I wouldn't mind a mod democrat president like Clinton that will not spend and not start wars.

If I had to split it up...

I'd rather have a dem pres and repub congress than vice versa. I also think the Liberal media might be the worst of all ( attacking our family values etc.). It is good that most people can see through their crap though.

Agree with everything except that last part. Sadly, i think most people think that everything we're going through now is Bush's/Republicans' fault. I've found trying to discuss anything negative, be it the economy, war, etc, it always comes back to Bush and his administration with 95% of people. It's sad and disturbing that people are so easily convinced and assume that because Keith Olberman said it, it must be true.

 

[Uno]

Well I don't support the Republican or Democrat party, but if I had to choose and suffer with them both, I would want the power seperated. I would rather have a fiscally conservative legislative branch ( you know, not looting our countries wealth) and I wouldn't mind a mod democrat president like Clinton that will not spend and not start wars.

If I had to split it up...

I'd rather have a dem pres and repub congress than vice versa. I also think the Liberal media might be the worst of all ( attacking our family values etc.). It is good that most people can see through their crap though.

not sure what has gotten into you tonight.

i am similar in my beliefs but i am very concerned with the "not start wars" part.

 

[asufan550]

yes we need all blue

You do realize that socialism is basically the same thing as fascism, except with wealth redistribution, right?
I'm sure for a simpleton like yourself it would be much better to have one voice controlling the media and governemtn, but for the rest of this country, nothing could be worse.

 

[Uno]

You do realize that socialism is basically the same thing as fascism, except with wealth redistribution, right?
I'm sure for a simpleton like yourself it would be much better to have one voice controlling the media and governemtn, but for the rest of this country, nothing could be worse.

the clinton years were horrible.

 

[hippieki11er]

I'd rather have a dem pres and repub congress than vice versa.

x2. Good topic btw.

 

[Uno]

c-gold - enable your private messages

 

[C-Gold]

Agree with everything except that last part. Sadly, i think most people think that everything we're going through now is Bush's/Republicans' fault. I've found trying to discuss anything negative, be it the economy, war, etc, it always comes back to Bush and his administration with 95% of people. It's sad and disturbing that people are so easily convinced and assume that because Keith Olberman said it, it must be true.

The liberal media is the worst of all. They are destroying this country from within. The spenders/debt mentality, the divorce rate, the number of people needing gov. assistance, the high murder rate, the obesity crisis, the victim mentality, the whole sue everybody craze, etc. etc. etc.

That stuff isn't natural. You don't go to other countries and see 300lb women walking around downtown of their capital city. You don't see other countries having so much consumer debt, murder rate etc. Come to Washington DC and travel .5 miles from the US capital building and you will see gang warfare.

One of the main things America is known for exporting, is CULTURE. Our movies, our TV shows, our music etc.

 

[C-Gold]

not sure what has gotten into you tonight.

i am similar in my beliefs but i am very concerned with the "not start wars" part.

You should consider being Libertarian. Ron Paul is the only candidate that wants immediatly out of Iraq. Obama has his time table and Mccain is probably more liberal to stay there than Obama. RP is such a pacifist you would love him.

I don't think you understand my views on War.

 

[gtc08]

The liberal media is the worst of all. They are destroying this country from within. The spenders/debt mentality, the divorce rate, the number of people needing gov. assistance, the high murder rate, the obesity crisis, the victim mentality, the whole sue everybody craze, etc. etc. etc.

That stuff isn't natural. You don't go to other countries and see 300lb women walking around downtown of their capital city. You don't see other countries having so much consumer debt, murder rate etc. Come to Washington DC and travel .5 miles from the US capital building and you will see gang warfare.

One of the main things America is known for exporting, is CULTURE. Our movies, our TV shows, our music etc.

that is why we need socialism. in americas capitalist society you have business owners who make plus size kid clothing because american mom and dads say its ok to be out of shape, we have clothes that can fit you. alternative, radical, stupid ideas lead to a national dumbing down of the society.

now you get socialism in here, get a unit working together, get uniform ideas, you eliminate all of the headaches you mentioned.

visit canada, europe, south africa ,democratic socialist countries thriving today.

 

[Uno]

i love ron paul but it is worthless love. fact of the matter is we have a two party system and barring some revolution we are going to have a two party system and he does not fit into either.

enable your private messages.