There are a lot of parables in general in the bible that mimic life lessons that are shared and are common to other books from other religions.....
Let me join the majority of the people who have already responded to this....some people talk about water to wine and people turning to stone and the parting of the red sea like it just happened yesterday and these are just commonplace occurances over the course of earth's history, yet these same people who adamantly adhere to the readings of a religious articles would scoff and sneer at the mere THOUGHT that there could be life on other planets or in other galaxies.......whether there is life or not in other universe has yet to be seen.....my point is that all the people who believe rigidly in acts the bible says happened, however great and astonishing they seem to be..........these acts just don't happen in the world we live in today, if we did we would clearly have more reason to believe.......they scoff at simpler thought like life somewhere else yet demand that all these amazing stories be considered fact.....What is this logic????
As far as life on other planets or whether there is a God or what religion he supports and is based in, I don't know.......maybe there is and maybe there isn't.......
Bottom line most religious people hold thier nose up to non-believers and claim these people to be heathens and going to some impending doom.....I just can't condemn somebody for the simple thought of not believing in something that makes such high claims and has little to back it's claims.....in the eyes of the religious right I may burn in some fiery hell for the simple act of being an agnostic........but I feel my position is correct given the evidence.......extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof......
Let me join the majority of the people who have already responded to this....some people talk about water to wine and people turning to stone and the parting of the red sea like it just happened yesterday and these are just commonplace occurances over the course of earth's history, yet these same people who adamantly adhere to the readings of a religious articles would scoff and sneer at the mere THOUGHT that there could be life on other planets or in other galaxies.......whether there is life or not in other universe has yet to be seen.....my point is that all the people who believe rigidly in acts the bible says happened, however great and astonishing they seem to be..........these acts just don't happen in the world we live in today, if we did we would clearly have more reason to believe.......they scoff at simpler thought like life somewhere else yet demand that all these amazing stories be considered fact.....What is this logic????
As far as life on other planets or whether there is a God or what religion he supports and is based in, I don't know.......maybe there is and maybe there isn't.......
Bottom line most religious people hold thier nose up to non-believers and claim these people to be heathens and going to some impending doom.....I just can't condemn somebody for the simple thought of not believing in something that makes such high claims and has little to back it's claims.....in the eyes of the religious right I may burn in some fiery hell for the simple act of being an agnostic........but I feel my position is correct given the evidence.......extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof......
Associated Press story
The Republican Party acknowledged yesterday sending mass mailings to residents of two states warning that "liberals" seek to ban the Bible. It said the mailings were part of its effort to mobilize religious voters for president Bush.
The mailings include images of the Bible labeled "banned" and of a gay marriage proposal labeled "allowed." A mailing to Arkansas residents warns: "This will be Arkansas if you don't vote." A similar mailing was sent to West Virginians.
A liberal religious group, the Interfaith Alliance, circulated a copy of the Arkansas mailing to reporters yesterday to publicize it. "What they are doing is despicable,'' said Don Parker, a spokesman for the alliance. "They are playing on people's fears and emotions."
In an e-mail message, Christine Iverson, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, confirmed that the party had sent the mailings.
"When the Massachusetts Supreme Court sanctioned same-sex marriage and people in other states realized they could be compelled to recognize those laws, same-sex marriage became an issue,'' Ms. Iverson said. "These same activist judges also want to remove the words 'under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance."
The mailing is the latest evidence of the emphasis Republicans are putting on motivating conservative Christian voters to vote this fall. But as the appeals become public, they also risk alienating moderate and swing voters.
An editorial on Sept. 22 in The Charleston Gazette in West Virginia, for example, asked, "Holy Moley! Who concocts this gibberish?"
"Most Americans see morality more complexly," the editorial said. "Many think a higher morality is found in Christ's command to help the needy, prevent war and pursue other humanitarian goals. Churchgoers of this sort aren't likely to believe childish allegations that Democrats want to ban the Bible."
In statement,senator John Edwards, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, said President Bush "should condemn the practice immediately and tell everyone associated with the campaign to never use tactics like this again."
Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, called the mailings an ugly contrast to Mr. Bush's public statements. Although the president has called for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, he often emphasizes the need for tolerance as well.
"The president takes more or less the high road and his henchman and allies on the right have been let loose to conduct these ugly, divisive smear campaigns," Mr. Foreman said. "It is wedge politics at its worst."
In any event, the Bush campaign appears confident about its religious appeal.
The mailing seeks to appeal to conservative evangelical Protestant pastors and political leaders who say they worry that legal rights for same-sex couples could lead to hate-crimes laws that could be applied against sermons of Bible passages criticizing homosexuality.
Conservative Christian political commentators often cite the case of Ake Green, a minister in Sweden who was jailed in June for a month for a sermon denouncing gays as sinful.
Mr. Parker, of the Interfaith Alliance, said, "I think it is laughable to think that someone could be arrested for reading out loud from the Bible.''
But Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, argued, "We have the First Amendment in this country which should protect churches, but there is no question that this is where some people want to go, that reading from the Bible could be hate speech."
Still, Mr. Land questioned the assertion that Democrats might ban the whole Bible. "I wouldn't say it," he said. "I would think that is probably stretching it a bit far."
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The Republican Party acknowledged yesterday sending mass mailings to residents of two states warning that "liberals" seek to ban the Bible. It said the mailings were part of its effort to mobilize religious voters for president Bush.
The mailings include images of the Bible labeled "banned" and of a gay marriage proposal labeled "allowed." A mailing to Arkansas residents warns: "This will be Arkansas if you don't vote." A similar mailing was sent to West Virginians.
A liberal religious group, the Interfaith Alliance, circulated a copy of the Arkansas mailing to reporters yesterday to publicize it. "What they are doing is despicable,'' said Don Parker, a spokesman for the alliance. "They are playing on people's fears and emotions."
In an e-mail message, Christine Iverson, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, confirmed that the party had sent the mailings.
"When the Massachusetts Supreme Court sanctioned same-sex marriage and people in other states realized they could be compelled to recognize those laws, same-sex marriage became an issue,'' Ms. Iverson said. "These same activist judges also want to remove the words 'under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance."
The mailing is the latest evidence of the emphasis Republicans are putting on motivating conservative Christian voters to vote this fall. But as the appeals become public, they also risk alienating moderate and swing voters.
An editorial on Sept. 22 in The Charleston Gazette in West Virginia, for example, asked, "Holy Moley! Who concocts this gibberish?"
"Most Americans see morality more complexly," the editorial said. "Many think a higher morality is found in Christ's command to help the needy, prevent war and pursue other humanitarian goals. Churchgoers of this sort aren't likely to believe childish allegations that Democrats want to ban the Bible."
In statement,senator John Edwards, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, said President Bush "should condemn the practice immediately and tell everyone associated with the campaign to never use tactics like this again."
Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, called the mailings an ugly contrast to Mr. Bush's public statements. Although the president has called for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, he often emphasizes the need for tolerance as well.
"The president takes more or less the high road and his henchman and allies on the right have been let loose to conduct these ugly, divisive smear campaigns," Mr. Foreman said. "It is wedge politics at its worst."
In any event, the Bush campaign appears confident about its religious appeal.
The mailing seeks to appeal to conservative evangelical Protestant pastors and political leaders who say they worry that legal rights for same-sex couples could lead to hate-crimes laws that could be applied against sermons of Bible passages criticizing homosexuality.
Conservative Christian political commentators often cite the case of Ake Green, a minister in Sweden who was jailed in June for a month for a sermon denouncing gays as sinful.
Mr. Parker, of the Interfaith Alliance, said, "I think it is laughable to think that someone could be arrested for reading out loud from the Bible.''
But Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, argued, "We have the First Amendment in this country which should protect churches, but there is no question that this is where some people want to go, that reading from the Bible could be hate speech."
Still, Mr. Land questioned the assertion that Democrats might ban the whole Bible. "I wouldn't say it," he said. "I would think that is probably stretching it a bit far."
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Where are the religious whacko's and I know there's alot of them on here explain these points to us. If you believe you must understand, so fill us in. Or is this what they mean by blind faith and you have to choose to believe. Coocoo coocoo
Question 1) Noah was 800 when he built the ark how is this possible
Quastion 2) How did 5 fish feed all those damn people
We will start with these two tons more to follow.
My faith and belief system tells me these 2 questions won't be getting answered. Unless some of you are honest and say I don't understand a thing I just buy into this crap hook line and sinker anway.
Lets have the rebuttle guys.
Gameface/ Patriot you boys want to start
Question 1) Noah was 800 when he built the ark how is this possible
Quastion 2) How did 5 fish feed all those damn people
We will start with these two tons more to follow.
My faith and belief system tells me these 2 questions won't be getting answered. Unless some of you are honest and say I don't understand a thing I just buy into this crap hook line and sinker anway.
Lets have the rebuttle guys.
Gameface/ Patriot you boys want to start
hno:
From the lips of the main man himself.
"it is easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven"
and my all time personal favourite.
"and the MEEK shall inherit the earth."
I reckon there's been a mistranslation for the word meek, it was probaly noobs or eejits or something, but the translators softened it up.
"it is easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven"
and my all time personal favourite.
"and the MEEK shall inherit the earth."
I reckon there's been a mistranslation for the word meek, it was probaly noobs or eejits or something, but the translators softened it up.
