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US election begins with voting in Florida dogged by controversy over faulty machines and disenfranchised voters

[font=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Gordon Sasser first got the feeling that something strange was going on when the telephone pierced the silence of a weekday afternoon at his house on the swampy fringes of Tallahassee, northern Florida.



An automated voice had some surprising news: did he know that he could now cast his presidential vote by phone, and could do so right now, using the keypad? Mr Sasser's suspicion that somebody was trying to trick him into thinking he was casting a vote - presumably so that he wouldn't cast a real one - was far from unique.

James Scruggs, another Tallahassee resident, remembers a similar unease about the young woman who phoned him at home, insistently offering to collect his absentee ballot to ensure its safe delivery.

Then there was the elderly woman who called the local elections office last week to register her husband for an absentee vote. According to office staff, as she hung up she made a point of thanking them: she wouldn't have thought to get in touch about her husband, she said, if it hadn't been for their helpful call the night before, when someone had taken her own details, assuring her that she was now registered and would receive a ballot.

But the elections office makes no such calls. "It's Alice in Wonderland here now," sighed Ion Sancho, elections supervisor for Leon County, which includes Tallahassee, Florida's capital. "Up is down, and down is up ... My feeling is that someone has essentially conned her into believing that she's going to be voting."

[/font]Mr Sancho is a longstanding thorn in the side of Florida's governor, Jeb Bush, who presides from a building across the street. But even he seems astonished by the reports reaching his office these days.



"I've been an elections supervisor for 16 years now, and nobody has ever called me with this kind of activity occurring," he said.

The mysterious calls are only the most vivid symptoms of broader problems in Florida which critics fear could leave thousands of citizens disenfranchised on November 2.

New electronic voting machines have proven error-prone, and may not be capable of accurate recounts. State authorities are threatening to withhold votes from people who forget to tick a box confirming that they are US citizens, even though they signed a statement to the same effect on the same form. And among several legal feuds, Florida Democrats are accusing the state of failing properly to implement measures designed to prevent a repeat of the 2000 fiasco, when thousands of African-Americans were wrongly prevented from voting.

The US election officially began in Florida yesterday, as early voting sites opened across the state - though in Duval County, a Republican-run area with a large African-American population, that too is a subject of dispute. Only one early voting site, far from densely populated neighbourhoods, has been made available for the entire county. "One location for a county of 831 acres - that's the most asinine thing I've ever heard," said the Rev William Bolden, a Jacksonville pastor who is among many to detect a pattern in the controversies.
 

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This is a key difference between a liberal mindset and a conservative one. Conservatives believe in personal accountability and responsibility for actions. No matter whether you are a democrat or republican...TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR VOTING YOURSELF!!!! Don't believe a phone call, don't believe and e-mail, don't let someone mail a ballot for you, go to polls early or on election day and if you want to vote:locate you polling place, find a ride, call a cab, get there with proper ID and your registration card (Yes, my God they expect you to actually take the time to register!!!) and then take your time and make sure you choose the candidate you want. Voting is an exercise that actually takes some initiative on the part of the individual...no one can or should vote for you!!! :think:
 

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gotta love the Florida Brownshirts, they're at it again...

"fool me once shame on you , fool me twice..."

The UN should be observing this stuff and having a good laff.

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"Only one early-voting station in central Jacksonville, miles away from the black neighbourhoods. "

And is Jacksonville a small town? :neenee:

-The City of Jacksonville ranks as the 14th largest city in
the United States in population with more than 800,000 residents.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,171-1317593,00.html

No wonder they don't want the UN anywhere near their election. :biglaugh:
 

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eek. said:
gotta love the Florida Brownshirts, they're at it again...

"fool me once shame on you , fool me twice..."

The UN should be observing this stuff and having a good laff.

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"Only one early-voting station in central Jacksonville, miles away from the black neighbourhoods. "

And is Jacksonville a small town? :neenee:

-The City of Jacksonville ranks as the 14th largest city in
the United States in population with more than 800,000 residents.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,171-1317593,00.html

No wonder they don't want the UN anywhere near their election. :biglaugh:

Oh my goodness...they may have to find a ride for miles!!!... miles!!! of all things to get to their one and only EARLY voting place! My God, they cannot possibly function without some type of government program or intervention to help them find this ride and get to the EARLY polling place to vote...its all a big republican conspiracy hatched by Jeb and George!!! :nuts: :biglaugh:
 

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Focus on Florida as voting begins


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There were some early glitches with electronic voting

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA -->People in Florida began casting their votes for US president on Monday, four years after a debacle in the state held up the 2000 election result.

Florida is one of 32 states where voters are allowed to make their choice before election day.

There were some reports of glitches with voting systems, including faulty ballots and a computer crash.

Both John Kerry and George Bush headed to Florida, to campaign in what is again likely to be a key battleground.

Mr Bush won the presidential election after taking Florida by just 537 votes following a controversial count in 2000.



Although the machines that caused confusion last time have been replaced, new electronic voting machines have already had problems.

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Early voting also began in Arkansas, Colorado and Texas - where former President George Bush cast a ballot
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And both sides have raised the possibility of legal challenges if the outcome is close in Florida or any other battleground.

In Palm Beach County, within an hour of polls opening, a Democratic state legislator claimed to have received an incomplete ballot, saying it was "not a good start".

In Orange County, the touch-screen system crashed.

Elsewhere, queues more than an hour long formed. Lucien Gennaro, a police aide in Coral Springs, had to leave the queue to get to work, and said: "A lot of people who were waiting just left. I'll try again tomorrow. It was a little frustrating after what happened in 2000."

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Does Eek expect Florida to keep each polling place open for two weeks? If you don't want to drive a few miles for early voting, wait until Nov 2 to vote. That's what thousands of New Yorkers are doing; absentee voting in New York then voting again November 2nd.
 

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i vote in three state

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This is a key difference between a liberal mindset and a conservative one. Conservatives believe in personal accountability and responsibility for actions. No matter whether you are a democrat or republican...TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR VOTING YOURSELF!!!! Don't believe a phone call, don't believe and e-mail, don't let someone mail a ballot for you, go to polls early or on election day and if you want to vote:locate you polling place, find a ride, call a cab, get there with proper ID and your registration card (Yes, my God they expect you to actually take the time to register!!!) and then take your time and make sure you choose the candidate you want. Voting is an exercise that actually takes some initiative on the part of the individual...no one can or should vote for you!!! :think:
Yeah, and the other difference is political responsibility. Liberals believe our elected officials should be held responsible for their failures while Republicans apparently believe in denying that a problem ever exists and then when it's proven to exist you blame someone else. George W. Bush is the poster child for avoiding personal responsibility for anything. So maybe Bush is a liberal?
 

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