did van gundy say nowitzki might be a top 10, borderline top 5 player in nba history last night?

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ST, I thought I had a four bagger in the PPub just now, but in an ironic move considering his handle, "SayHeyKid" went up over the CF wall and broke the streak in half with a post even less meaningful than any of the four I had lobbed up
 

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I'd take KG over Dirk/KMalone and Barkley pretty easily. I think cause most people saw KG play most of his career in Boston when he was past his prime instead of in Minn when he was at his peak they think of him as less than he was.

I would've said this before his Celts career too fwiw.

Also regarding Dirk, Van Gundy even when he said it said it tongue in cheek. He was just making the point the guy is a great player having a great game. He knew it was over the top.
 

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KG is the most unclutch player of all-time - he's hit one big shot in his life (this season) - if ur not clutch u aint top 5 and he has limited offensive game and his defensive game is mostly his motor - I remember TD used to piss all over him while he ran his mouth all game up in Minny - no fucking way is he better than any of those guys
 

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Weird that u like him over everyone other than KM (and TD) - ur not from Boston r u?
 

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KG over Malone is ridiculous - there's just no way. I do like KG over Dirk because KG plays both ends, but it's close, and i could be convinced otherwise.
 

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KG is the most unclutch player of all-time - he's hit one big shot in his life (this season) - if ur not clutch u aint top 5 and he has limited offensive game and his defensive game is mostly his motor - I remember TD used to piss all over him while he ran his mouth all game up in Minny - no fucking way is he better than any of those guys

Your saying Malone over KG and 1st thing you cite is KG is unclutch? Malone choked in tons of big games. The difference between KG and Malone/Barkley at the defensive end is pretty large. I think for most they forget how good KG was in Minnesota because he was trapped on a bad team. He has limited offensive game? Again, your basing this on 08-11 KG which most people will remember him as rather than 02-05 KG which was the prime of his career.

I didn't mention KG over McHale because the eras are very different but yeah I'd take KG over him too. Guess playing in your prime in Minnesota when 1 year with Cassell/Sprewell being the best teammates you've had isn't too good for your legacy, lol.

Seriously, y'all don't know defense wins championships? KG is 1 of the best defenders in the NBA now at 35, go watch the tapes of him at 27 leading a crappy Twolves team to the Conf Finals (Cassel got injured in the playoffs)
 

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KG over Malone is ridiculous - there's just no way. I do like KG over Dirk because KG plays both ends, but it's close, and i could be convinced otherwise.

KG in his prime was basically a dominant C on D. Malone was a solid PF.

Malone and Stock are both slightly overrated. top 3 PF and top 3 PG of all time yet they couldn't win a ring and couldn't even go finals until Dream/CBark/Drexler got old? I can't prove I'm right so these arguments are kindof trivial but people should think about that for a sec.
 

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KG in his prime was basically a dominant C on D. Malone was a solid PF.

Malone and Stock are both slightly overrated. top 3 PF and top 3 PG of all time yet they couldn't win a ring and couldn't even go finals until Dream/CBark/Drexler got old? I can't prove I'm right so these arguments are kindof trivial but people should think about that for a sec.

since you started citing KG's T'Wolves teammates, I'd like you to look at the big men Malone and Stockton played with... I won't even utter one of the names for fear of contracting oakywhiteguyitis. Eisley, Vaughn, Keefe, Andrus, Foster, Carr... and he who shall not be named -these guys never played anywhere after Utah, why? Because Stockton/Malone carried them.

just my opinion, Malone is superior to KG - and don't get me wrong, I love KG as a Celtic.
 

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Patsfan,

You are the only person who argues that KG is better than KM. I like KG better than all of them, but KG is not even close to being the top PF. TD is #1 followed by KM #2. KG was a great player, but Timmy owned him.
 

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hes top 10. hes not better then any of those players i mentioned though.

Top 10 all time?

Better than

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
The Big O
Russell
Kareem
Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
Olajuwon
Dr. J

Better than any of them?
 

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i think i heard he called him a top 5 german player....i may be mistaken

Soccer rejects play basketball in Germany, Steak.

He's probably not even in the Top 100 athletes in German history. Those East German woman weightlifters would whoop his ass, Michael Schumacher would run him over and Michael Ballack would make him his biatch.
 

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Soccer rejects play basketball in Germany, Steak.

He's probably not even in the Top 100 athletes in German history. Those East German woman weightlifters would whoop his ass, Michael Schumacher would run him over and Michael Ballack would make him his biatch.

Cincy, are you saying a soccer player is more athletic than a basketball player?
 

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Top 10 all time?

Better than

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Wilt
The Big O
Russell
Kareem
Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
Olajuwon
Dr. J

Better than any of them?

that was me debating another poster who had bird in his top 5. didnt have to do with dirk.

i said bird is top 10, but not top 5 imo.

i think a solid 5 is: oscar robertson, jordan, johnson, wilt and bill russell.

bird is in the top 10 though, not top 5.
 

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I mentioned this already but you guys realize Van Gundy was KIDDING? He was just giving dirk an over the top compliment.
 

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