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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Killing the witnesses

Did the U.S. military deliberately target journalists in Baghdad?
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By ROBERT C. KOEHLER[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Tribune Media Services
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The deaths of journalists in wartime, while no more tragic than the deaths of other innocents, fall into a special category, like the deaths of medical personnel, perhaps — people on the battlefield by choice, but taking no part in the winning or losing, simply representing humanity.[/font]​

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Journalists are at particular risk because their job is to witness. And when their deaths are deliberate, the special category is war crime. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When we finally pull out of Iraq, leaving behind merely one more stain on history — another reminder of what happens when leaders mix geopolitics and ideological fanaticism — the force bringing the nation to its senses will be the one let loose by the independent journalists who are there, documenting reality.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I consider them, like other witnesses of war, heroes of the human race; and thus I had a particular interest in hearing Javier Couso speak recently about his brother, Jose, a cameraman for the Spanish television station Telecinco who was one of two journalists killed two years ago when a U.S. tank opened fire on the Hotel Palestine in Baghdad. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maybe it was murder; maybe it was just a military screw-up. After all, “War is a dangerous place.” So George Bush said with inarticulate dismissiveness when pressed by a Spanish journalist about Couso’s death not long afterward.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Well, yeah. The day that Couso died — April 8, 2003, a few weeks into the invasion — war was a particularly dangerous place for the international panoply of independent journalists then in Baghdad. Earlier that day, the U.S. bombed the Baghdad headquarters of Al-Jazeera, killing correspondent Tariq Ayoub. A short while later, a second U.S. air strike took out Abu Dhabi TV; no deaths, but injured journalists were trapped in the rubble.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Then, in the afternoon, a single round from an Abrams tank, parked on a bridge about a mile away, blew a hole in the 15th floor of the Hotel Palestine. Reuters cameraman Taras Protsyuk was killed instantly; Couso, seriously injured, died at a nearby hospital.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The thing about the Hotel Palestine is that it was full of journalists, a fact known to U.S. command; the hotel was off limits to attack. And within minutes of the strike, U.S. officials were in full damage-control mode, announcing to the world that the tank had been fired on from the hotel lobby. A variation on this theme — we came under fire — is the military’s all-purpose, go-to excuse for most of its lethal snafus; it’s why we strafe wedding parties, for instance. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In this case, it was both illogical (since the tank fired at the 15th floor) and vehemently denied by dozens of witnesses. The official excuse went through several permutations before settling on mistaken identity. The tank commander thought a cameraman at the window was an Iraqi with binoculars — a “forward observer” — directing fire at U.S. forces. So he took him out.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Don’t forget, war is a dangerous place.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Javier Couso is certain his brother was deliberately targeted as a journalist and wants a real investigation. He wants justice, and is now traveling across the United States with his translator, James Hollander, in quest of it. They’re speaking at small venues (I heard him in a classroom at Chicago’s Loyola University) and showing the film “Hotel Palestine: Killing the Witness,” which documents the attack on the hotel in horrific detail and contains the last footage shot by Jose Couso.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Murder or screw-up? I don’t know, but I do put Couso’s death in context. Not only was the attack on the Hotel Palestine the third U.S. strike against journalists that very day, but also fits into a troubling pattern of military actions against journalists in recent years, in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq.[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Indeed, Kate Adie, a British correspondent during Gulf War 1, has charged that she was told by a Pentagon official shortly before the launch of the second Iraq war that the U.S. intended to fire on the satellite uplinks of independent broadcasters. And so far dozens of journalists have died in this war, many from U.S. fire. Not a single death has been investigated. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“I’ve seen a complete erosion of any kind of acknowledgement that reporters should be able to report as they witness,” Adie told an Irish radio interviewer in 2003. “The Americans . . . take the attitude which is entirely hostile to the free spread of information.”[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To a heavily armed invader contemptuous of human rights, the most dangerous enemies it has are the witnesses.[/font]
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]About Bob Koehler
Robert Koehler, an award-winning, Chicago-based journalist, is an editor at Tribune Media Services and nationally syndicated writer. You can respond to this column at bob@commonwonders.com
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nimue77, the u.s. is clearly a terrible place with an evil government and military. perhaps you would be happier elsewhere. there are plenty of other countries where you could go and live. your only worries will be:

1) getting your head cutoff (any country in the middle east)
2) getting taxed to the point where all you can afford is a 1 bedroom apt (any country in europe)
3) catching some disease that no local doctor can treat (africa, south america)

good luck.

by the way, it has been confirmed that cris does have neteller withdrawls free on friday...in case you didnt see it in o/s
 
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by the way, it has been confirmed that cris does have neteller withdrawls free on friday...in case you didnt see it in o/s<!-- / message -->

Yeah because I'm sure he will put it back into the system in charitable way like AIDS in Africa
Sword sharpeners union in Syria.
Lotto tickets to get a place in front of line to see a doctor.

Or I'm sure he will spend it the same way he suggest others to spend it.
 

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You seem to be saying that because there are worse places to live that one should not criticize their own government....which is pretty stupid (and unpatriotic) if you ask me.

Thanks for the cris update, I actually called earlier today and found that out myself.


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nimue77, the u.s. is clearly a terrible place with an evil government and military. perhaps you would be happier elsewhere. there are plenty of other countries where you could go and live. your only worries will be:

1) getting your head cutoff (any country in the middle east)
2) getting taxed to the point where all you can afford is a 1 bedroom apt (any country in europe)
3) catching some disease that no local doctor can treat (africa, south america)

good luck.

by the way, it has been confirmed that cris does have neteller withdrawls free on friday...in case you didnt see it in o/s
 
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nimue77 said:
You seem to be saying that because there are worse places to live that one should not criticize their own government....which is pretty stupid (and unpatriotic) if you ask me.

Thanks for the cris update, I actually called earlier today and found that out myself.

critizing is one thing...you seem to think they can do nothing right. why would you live in such a place? you even want radical states like iran to arm themselves with nuclear weapons so the evil americans will be afraid of them.

i'd say your comments and theories go far beyond criticism.
 
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to all the conspiracists who think the US would target journalists - why would they just target a few of them? Why do they let journalists embed with US troops to broadcast and film what is going on? Surely as evil and blood thirsty as the US military is, they would kill everyone.

These journalists sound like people who would stand in the middle of a busy freeway to document people speeding, but then if they got hit by a car they would be looking to blame someone for letting them stand there
 
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I don't think being at the Hotel Pakistan can be equated to being on the front line. Don't see the current administration being a strong proponent of a free press. In fact they seem to resent any element of the press that does not agree with thier polocies. Jus one man's opinion.
 

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I actually do hope iran gets a nuke soon only because it will prevent us from attacking them (which would not be in most americans best interests).

p.s. I did not say the u.s. military attacked journalists in Iran, I merely posted an article that asks the question and talks about some things that happened. I guess reading and thinking is not for people like you though T3a.



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critizing is one thing...you seem to think they can do nothing right. why would you live in such a place? you even want radical states like iran to arm themselves with nuclear weapons so the evil americans will be afraid of them.

i'd say your comments and theories go far beyond criticism.
 
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nimue77 said:
I actually do hope iran gets a nuke soon only because it will prevent us from attacking them

and in that scenario what would prevent them from attacking us?

as far as the journalist's claims, I think the claim that a tank a mile away was specifically targetting a person on the 15th floor of a hotel because they know he is a journalist is weak.
 
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T, so is the reason giving for shelling a hotel.
 

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It would not be in Irans interest to attack the United States with a nuclear weapon and mutually assured destruction happens to be one reason for that.



t3a said:
and in that scenario what would prevent them from attacking us?

as far as the journalist's claims, I think the claim that a tank a mile away was specifically targetting a person on the 15th floor of a hotel because they know he is a journalist is weak.
 
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nimue77 said:
mutually assured destruction happens to be one reason for that.

I have heard that some people in that part of the world think that dying in a war with the great US satan or killing US infidels is something to look forward to
 
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t3a said:
I have heard that some people in that part of the world think that dying in a war with the great US satan or killing US infidels is something to look forward to

bingo!

they would love it. to die a martyr (sp?)...means you get 50 virgins and rivers of wine. they would be lined up for miles to kill the infidels.
 

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