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Even if it is true there is nothing stopping anyone from throwing a fundraiser to raise funds for a candidate. I can throw a fundraiser in my house for McCain or Obama, doesn't mean they share my views from 40 years ago.

What is also critical to note is that Ayers never killed anyone. Yeah he bombed some buildings during the 70's, but for the last 30 years or so there is nothing to indicate that he has been anything but an exceptional citizen trying to better the country.

And some like to quote Ayers as saying "we didn't do enough", however, he claims that refers to his efforts to stop the US from being in Vietnam and not more bombings.
 

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yawn...the majority of America dont care. LOL. Keep reachin tho.
 

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yawn...the majority of America dont care. LOL. Keep reachin tho.
Why is it reaching? You make no sense. No one is reaching just stating facts. He didn't say I hate Obama because of Ayers.
 

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yawn...the majority of America dont care. LOL. Keep reachin tho.


The media sides with you. The majority of American people are more worried about whether Joe the Plumber has government issued permission to work on your sink... right??

:nohead:

If the media spent as much effort looking into Obama's background as they have Joe Wurzelbacher's, this would be McCain in a landslide.
 

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Probably the Ayers fundraiser for his initial campaign did launch Obama's
career. One sure thing, he is a product of the Chicago political machine that has stolen more elections than they have fairly won. That's bad news any way you look at it.
 

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Why does the Ayers - Obama thing seem a bit pediophile-ish to me?!

I mean Barack was 8 at the time they met, or something right?

What on earth is the right's obsession with young children? It is DISTURBING to say the least.
 

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if people cared, mccain would have more then a 8 percent chance of winning the election. right?
 

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Why does the Ayers - Obama thing seem a bit pediophile-ish to me?!

I mean Barack was 8 at the time they met, or something right?

What on earth is the right's obsession with young children? It is DISTURBING to say the least.
Please go do your research instead of listening to the media.
 

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I honestly thought "holy shyt, she is crazy as hell" when Palin said something about Obama being 6 years old and talking to Ayers in his living room.

That creeped me out.

You are trying to be VPotus and using actions of a 6 year old child as a talking point to berate your opposing party?! WTF
 

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BO is an empty suit with great charisma. Hes not going to do anything to change the climate of whats going on because at the root of all this is spending and nether him or the fighter pilot have any plans of doing such. Even if said below average fighter pilots supposed spending freeze was put into place, it isnt enough when your running record deficits compounded by interest. The reality is that Bush 43 has been such a debacle, it really didnt matter who was running for POTUS from the other side, they were going to win regardless. So all the neocons should take a long look at what has transpired over the last 8 years and start to really ask how to prevent this from happening again, because this is the ultimate case of reaping what you sew.
 

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BO is an empty suit with great charisma. Hes not going to do anything to change the climate of whats going on because at the root of all this is spending and nether him or the fighter pilot have any plans of doing such. Even if said below average fighter pilots supposed spending freeze was put into place, it isnt enough when your running record deficits compounded by interest. The reality is that Bush 43 has been such a debacle, it really didnt matter who was running for POTUS from the other side, they were going to win regardless. So all the neocons should take a long look at what has transpired over the last 8 years and start to really ask how to prevent this from happening again, because this is the ultimate case of reaping what you sew.
They should have put up a true conserve. How they arrived at McCain is beyond anyone's guess. He caught some momentum and then they backed him like crazy after they free thought in the early going. It was like "oh he has a small lead let's catch a simultaneous hard on for him."

That whole republican primary was just bizarre to me.

I can say with confidence that my party vetted our top canidates pretty good through out the entire process, I can't say the same for the pubs.
 

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They should have put up a true conserve. How they arrived at McCain is beyond anyone's guess. He caught some momentum and then they backed him like crazy after they free thought in the early going. It was like "oh he has a small lead let's catch a simultaneous hard on for him."

That whole republican primary was just bizarre to me.

I can say with confidence that my party vetted our top canidates pretty good through out the entire process, I can't say the same for the pubs.
If McCain ran like he did in 2000 against Bush he would have won this in a landslide. He let his party have to much control.
 

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Please go do your research instead of listening to the media.

Is Ayers gonna be part of Obama's staff? No. Is Obama consulting with Ayers now? No.

Are you telling me you republicans are worried that they worked together 10 years ago? Is that all your hanging your hat on?? If a canididate were unfit to be president based on relationships then McCain shouldn't even be the fucking republican nominee!! What about McCains relationships with Gordon Liddy? Thats just as comparable if not an identical relationship to Ayers.

Liddy:
-Broke into the office of the DNC to plant bugs and photographed documents
-Proposed to kidnap anti-war activists.
-Proposed to murder newspaper columnist
-Advised his listeners to go for "head shots" and "kill those SOB's" of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agents.


Fuck man. Get over yourself already. The Obama campaign doesn't even make it a factor of their election. Notice how Ayers stuff comes up once McCain's poll numbers started sliding? Never once heared it in the previous 2 debates.

THATS WHY THE WHOLE AYERS thing is a reach. Cause no one fucking cares accept the people losing.
 

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If McCain ran like he did in 2000 against Bush he would have won this in a landslide. He let his party have to much control.

Well if he ran like he did in 2000 he never would have won the nomination in the first place as the republican party has been taken over by the likes of right wing radicals.
 

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McCain isnt that smart. That about the extent of this. W wasnt either, and i think in many ways Americans are tired of led by average intellect. Americans are blind sheep and i think even that said, they are tired of the blind leading the blind. The reality is BO is going to me more left of center then all you neocons think. They always are. Nobody is tilted too far, hence the political game of musical chairs goes on. I mean Bush was about as liberal as anyone spending wise. I just dont want to hear everyone bitch and moan when nothing changes under BO. Because nothing will change, politics as usual. I think i heard Carlin say this before in an interview "This country is finished" and in many ways it is, i think we have already hit our apex, i just hope it doesnt fall too hard.
 

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Is Ayers gonna be part of Obama's staff? No. Is Obama consulting with Ayers now? No.

Are you telling me you republicans are worried that they worked together 10 years ago? Is that all your hanging your hat on?? If a canididate were unfit to be president based on relationships then McCain shouldn't even be the fucking republican nominee!! What about McCains relationships with Gordon Liddy? Thats just as comparable if not an identical relationship to Ayers.

Liddy:
-Broke into the office of the DNC to plant bugs and photographed documents
-Proposed to kidnap anti-war activists.
-Proposed to murder newspaper columnist
-Advised his listeners to go for "head shots" and "kill those SOB's" of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agents.


Fuck man. Get over yourself already. The Obama campaign doesn't even make it a factor of their election. Notice how Ayers stuff comes up once McCain's poll numbers started sliding? Never once heared it in the previous 2 debates.

THATS WHY THE WHOLE AYERS thing is a reach. Cause no one fucking cares accept the people losing.
You don't know shit about Ayers the man tried to blow up Washington. The man told people to kill there parents. The man was the head of a terrorist organization. I could give a fuck that McCain is losing. I am voting for him, if he loses oh well I voted my say.
 

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You don't know shit about Ayers the man tried to blow up Washington. The man told people to kill there parents. The man was the head of a terrorist organization. I could give a fuck that McCain is losing. I am voting for him, if he loses oh well I voted my say.

Look I ain't tryin to tell you who to vote for. But to call people out voting for Obama because of a MEANINGLESS relationsihp with Ayers is just plain stupid.

Again it never mattered.
 

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Look I ain't tryin to tell you who to vote for. But to call people out voting for Obama because of a MEANINGLESS relationsihp with Ayers is just plain stupid.

Again it never mattered.
No one is calling people out. I just stated about their relationship. If its meaningless for you who gives a shit. Some will find meaning in it.
 

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The more I learn about this Ayers cat, the more I realize he pretty much kicked ass back in the day and he's still rockin' even now.

A role model for all young Americans who want to grow up to be something other than status quo sheep.
 

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