Democrats lied,people spied.

[PatPatriot]

For all the horseshit and hoopla the dems once again talked on both sides of their mouth.First they whined and screamed and whined and screamed about warrants and rights and rights and warrants and how the constitution being violated.
Well, while you were sleeping and the left wing media was not doing their job.It looks like the dems are in lock step with President Bush on protecting the constitution from enemies foregn and domestic (although they hate admitting it publicly)
For a dumb prick of a President he still gets plenty of wins against the windbags.

June 20, 2008

<NYT_HEADLINE version="1.0" type=" ">Deal Reached in Congress to Rewrite Rules on Wiretapping </NYT_HEADLINE>

<NYT_BYLINE version="1.0" type=" ">By ERIC LICHTBLAU
</NYT_BYLINE><NYT_TEXT>WASHINGTON — After months of wrangling, Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress struck a deal on Thursday to overhaul the rules on the government’s wiretapping powers and provide what amounts to legal immunity to the phone companies that took part in President Bush’s warrantless eavesdropping program after the Sept. 11 attacks.
The deal, expanding the government’s powers in some key respects, would allow intelligence officials to use broad warrants to eavesdrop on foreign targets and conduct emergency wiretaps without court orders on American targets for a week if it is determined important national security information would be lost otherwise. If approved, as appears likely, it would be the most significant revision of surveillance law in 30 years.
The agreement would settle one of the thorniest issues in dispute by providing immunity to the phone companies in the Sept. 11 program as long as a federal district court determines that they received legitimate requests from the government directing their participation in the warrantless wiretapping operation.

 

[docmercer--banned]

ALL OF EM FROM BOTH SIDES have cut their throats

Leave it to a PHONY AMERICAN like yourself to think its great
to shit all over the 4th Amendment

 

[PatPatriot]

ALL OF EM FROM BOTH SIDES have cut their throats

congratulations doc,you actually included the dems of doing wrong which is an opinion I don't agree with but at leastyou included them.

start including them with the war too because they are just as complicent.

A war by the way I was for,before I was against it.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Bullshit ...

Iraq is Bush's clusterfuck ...

He lied to everyone ... He Cherry Picked Intel ... He fired Generals over strategy in Iraq


FUCK THAT NOISE ... THE REPUGS WERE YAPPING THAT "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" WAS BECAUSE BUSH HAD THE GUTS TO "TAKE THE FIGHT
TO THE ENEMY" ........ ITS HIS DISASTER AND AS THE OL SAYING GOES:

THE BUCK STOPS HERE ... ENJOY THE "LEGACY" THAT BUSH CREATED ON HIS
OWN IN IRAQ

 

[PatPatriot]

6 years, 9 months, 10 days since the last Major attack on American soil.

Thank you President Bush and the democratic congress for keeping America safe.

what was Clintons longest stretch???

Want me to look it up for you?

 

[docmercer--banned]

Lets see ... How is the Hunt for Bin Laden going?

Speaking of Clinton:

Measures taken by the Clinton administration to thwart international terrorism and bin Laden's network were historic, unprecedented and, sadly, not followed up on. Consider the steps offered by Clinton's 1996 omnibus anti-terror legislation, the pricetag for which stood at $1.097 billion. The following is a partial list of the initiatives offered by the Clinton anti-terrorism bill:

• Screen Checked Baggage: $91.1 million
• Screen Carry-On Baggage: $37.8 million
• Passenger Profiling: $10 million
• Screener Training: $5.3 million
• Screen Passengers (portals) and Document Scanners: $1 million
• Deploying Existing Technology to Inspect International Air Cargo: $31.4
  million
• Provide Additional Air/Counterterrorism Security: $26.6 million
• Explosives Detection Training: $1.8 million
• Augment FAA Security Research: $20 million
• Customs Service: Explosives and Radiation Detection Equipment at Ports: $2.2 million
• Anti-Terrorism Assistance to Foreign Governments: $2 million
• Capacity to Collect and Assemble Explosives Data: $2.1 million
• Improve Domestic Intelligence: $38.9 million
• Critical Incident Response Teams for Post-Blast Deployment: $7.2 million
• Additional Security for Federal Facilities: $6.7 million
• Firefighter/Emergency Services Financial Assistance: $2.7 million
• Public Building and Museum Security: $7.3 million
• Improve Technology to Prevent Nuclear Smuggling: $8 million
• Critical Incident Response Facility: $2 million
• Counter-Terrorism Fund: $35 million
• Explosives Intelligence and Support Systems: $14.2 million
• Office of Emergency Preparedness: $5.8 million

The Clinton administration poured more than a billion dollars into counterterrorism activities across the entire spectrum of the intelligence community, into the protection of critical infrastructure, into massive federal stockpiling of antidotes and vaccines to prepare for a possible bioterror attack, into a reorganization of the intelligence community itself. Within the National Security Council, "threat meetings" were held three times a week to assess looming conspiracies. His National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, prepared a voluminous dossier on al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, actively tracking them across the planet. Clinton raised the issue of terrorism in virtually every important speech he gave in the last three years of his tenure.


Clinton's dire public warnings about the threat posed by terrorism, and the actions taken to thwart it, went completely unreported by the media, which was far more concerned with stained dresses and baseless Drudge Report rumors. When the administration did act militarily against bin Laden and his terrorist network, the actions were dismissed by partisans within the media and Congress as scandalous "wag the dog" tactics. The news networks actually broadcast clips of the movie "Wag the Dog" while reporting on his warnings, to accentuate the idea that everything the administration said was contrived fakery.


In Congress, Clinton was thwarted by the reactionary conservative majority in virtually every attempt he made to pass legislation that would attack al-Qaeda and terrorism. His 1996 omnibus terror bill, which included many of the anti-terror measures we now take for granted after September 11, was withered almost to the point of uselessness by attacks from the right; Senators Jesse Helms and Trent Lott were openly dismissive of the threats Clinton spoke of.


Specifically, Clinton wanted to attack the financial underpinnings of the al-Qaeda network by banning American companies and individuals from dealing with foreign banks and financial institutions that al-Qaeda was using for its money-laundering operations. Texas Senator Phil Gramm, chairman of the Banking Committee, gutted the portions of Clinton's bill dealing with this matter, calling them "totalitarian."


In fact, Gramm was compelled to kill the bill because his most devoted patrons, the Enron Corporation and its criminal executives in Houston, were using those same terrorist financial networks to launder their own dirty money and rip off the Enron stockholders. It should also be noted that Gramm's wife, Wendy, sat on the Enron Board of Directors.


Just before departing office, Clinton managed to make a deal with the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development to have some twenty nations close tax havens used by al-Qaeda. His term ended before the deal was sealed, and the incoming Bush administration acted immediately to destroy the agreement.

 

[PatPatriot]

Lets try again doc...stay focused....

years, 9 months, 10 days since the last Major attack on American soil.

Thank you President Bush and the democratic congress for keeping America safe.

what was Clintons longest stretch???

Want me to look it up for you?<!-- / message -->

 

[docmercer--banned]

Bombing at the Atlanta Summer Olympics in 1996 - carried out by an American mountainman hermit guy

Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 - carried out by a couple of American whackjobs ... and GUESS WHAT? MCVEIGH WAS A FLAPPIN REPUBLICAN !!!


AGAIN ... WHY IS BIN LADEN NOT IN JAIL?

 

[Legend-I-Aint]

Bombing at the Atlanta Summer Olympics in 1996 - carried out by an American mountainman hermit guy

Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 - carried out by a couple of American whackjobs ... and GUESS WHAT? MCVEIGH WAS A FLAPPIN REPUBLICAN !!!


AGAIN ... WHY IS BIN LADEN NOT IN JAIL?

In Jail? Have you lost your mind?

He isn't going to make it to a jail.:machinegu

 

[PatPatriot]

AGAIN ... WHY IS BIN LADEN NOT IN JAIL?<!-- / message -->

we want to keep him contined "in a box" in Pakistan...you know like the dems wanted to keep Saddam "in a box".

Of course your guy Obama said he would invade a soverign country with nuclear weapons so that we can give him his Miranda rights and public funded lawyers...with the oppurtunity to suit the US goverment on some leagal technicality..then of course he'll be able to write a book and go on Oprah and they'll be both in tears on how the American legal system almost fucked him...But he did have time to write a childrens book in between rounds of golf at the fedreal pen.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Bin Laden is not even wanted in connection with 9-11 ...

Please explain that Patriot ... Please do !!


<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="604"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="54" valign="top"><center>MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH</center></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="60"> <center> [SIZE=+3]USAMA BIN LADEN[/SIZE]

</center></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"> <center><table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="150"> <tbody><tr> <td>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
</center> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="590"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="75"> Aliases:</td> <td valign="top" width="515"> Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin, Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin, The Prince, The Emir, Abu Abdallah, Mujahid Shaykh, Hajj, The Director</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <center> [SIZE=+1]DESCRIPTION[/SIZE]

</center> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="590"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Date of Birth Used: </td> <td valign="top" width="202"> 1957</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Hair:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Brown</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Place of Birth:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Saudi Arabia</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Eyes:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Brown</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Height:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> 6'4" to 6'6"</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Sex:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Male</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Weight:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Approximately 160 pounds</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Complexion:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Olive</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Build:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Thin</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Citizenship:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Saudi Arabian</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Language:</td> <td colspan="3"> Arabic (probably Pashtu)</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Scars and Marks:</td> <td colspan="3" valign="top"> None known</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Remarks:</td> <td colspan="3" valign="top"> Bin Laden is left-handed and walks with a cane.</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <center> [SIZE=+1]CAUTION[/SIZE]

</center> Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.
</td></tr></tbody></table>
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

 

[Legend-I-Aint]

Bin Laden is not even wanted in connection with 9-11 ...

Please explain that Patriot ... Please do !!


<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="604"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="54" valign="top"><center>MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH</center></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="60"> <center> [SIZE=+3]USAMA BIN LADEN[/SIZE]

</center></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"> <center><table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="150"> <tbody><tr> <td>

</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
</center> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="590"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="75"> Aliases:</td> <td valign="top" width="515"> Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin, Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin, The Prince, The Emir, Abu Abdallah, Mujahid Shaykh, Hajj, The Director</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <center> [SIZE=+1]DESCRIPTION[/SIZE]

</center> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="590"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Date of Birth Used: </td> <td valign="top" width="202"> 1957</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Hair:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Brown</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Place of Birth:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Saudi Arabia</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Eyes:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Brown</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Height:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> 6'4" to 6'6"</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Sex:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Male</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Weight:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Approximately 160 pounds</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Complexion:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Olive</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Build:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Thin</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Citizenship:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Saudi Arabian</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Language:</td> <td colspan="3"> Arabic (probably Pashtu)</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Scars and Marks:</td> <td colspan="3" valign="top"> None known</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Remarks:</td> <td colspan="3" valign="top"> Bin Laden is left-handed and walks with a cane.</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <center> [SIZE=+1]CAUTION[/SIZE]

</center> Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.
</td></tr></tbody></table>
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

Do you believe he had something to do with 9-11? Why do you want him in jail? Maybe the Pope of Hope can sit down and have a steak dinner with him and chat about giving each other some dap dap?

You talk in circles man. Lay down the bong!hno:

 

[docmercer--banned]

He had nothing to do with 9-11

BUSCHCO has used that name to keep FLOCKIES like Patriot buying Duct Tape

Bush wanted him "dead or alive" correct? Bin Laden has been the name associated with Bush's PNAC "Pearl Harbor" attack on 9-11

AGAIN ... IF BIN LADEN WAS BEHIND 9-11 AS BUSHCO HAS YAPPED ... WHY IS HE NOT WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE EVENTS?

 

[PatPatriot]

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>2/26/1993</TD><TD>USA</TD><TD>New York, NY</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>1040</TD><TD>Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
****Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 - carried out by a couple of American whackjobs ... and GUESS WHAT? MCVEIGH WAS A FLAPPIN REPUBLICAN !!!
<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>10/31/1999</TD><TD>USA</TD><TD>Near Nantucket</TD><TD>217</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>An Egyptian airline pilot runs a planeload of 217 passengers into the water after uttering a Qur'anic prayer.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

****Thanks for helping me make my point.
President Bush has made this country safer from all terroist attack.

can't say the same thing about the serial rapist can we?

 

[docmercer--banned]

1993 ...

the leaders of that attack were BEHIND BARS IN 2 YEARS via Bill Clinton

2001 ...

the leaders of that attack are still roaming free via George Bush


HMMMM .... enough said?

 

[PatPatriot]

How about the perps to these crimes?

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 5,000 people in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington, D.C. who are now dead would be alive today.

 

[Coldweather]

I think George Bush did a good job keeping the people safe again. Now the people can go to the movies, the malls, the market to buy the food for their babies and family, take a vacation, travel on a train, a bus, a boat, a car and a plane and be safe from the bad Muslims cutting their heads off and blowing the people up. George W Bush did a good job and is trying to do gooder each day.

This is what I think about this here issue.

:cripwalk::cripwalk:

 

[docmercer--banned]

Reagan "cut and run" out of Lebanon after 230 plus American soldiers
were killed ...

I notice you dont mention that

 

[docmercer--banned]

I count 265 dead Americans UNDER CLINTON's WATCH

I count over 7000 dead Americans UNDER BUSH'S WATCH


Hmmm ....

 

[PatPatriot]

count 265 dead Americans UNDER CLINTON's WATCH

I count over 7000 dead Americans UNDER BUSH'S WATCH

Ok doc I'll play.

0 Americans killed under republican Herbert Hoovers watch.

10,000,000 under democrat Franklin Roosevelts watch.

I'm not quite sure if any good came out of it?