DEALING two lines?

[VaultedTreehouse]

I have mixed emotions on this one. Technically speaking, I have no moral objection to a book or a bookie dealing different lines to different people. After all, there is no gun to your head that you have to place a bet once you learn a line. Also, it's possible they guess the wrong way with you, and you end up getting a better line than you expected....On the other hand, I feel like a book should probably be more focused on getting equal action on a number than farming out lines to people....Where do you come down on this?

 

[royalfan]

I have mixed emotions on this one. Technically speaking, I have no moral objection to a book or a bookie dealing different lines to different people. After all, there is no gun to your head that you have to place a bet once you learn a line. Also, it's possible they guess the wrong way with you, and you end up getting a better line than you expected....On the other hand, I feel like a book should probably be more focused on getting equal action on a number than farming out lines to people....Where do you come down on this?

I have no problem with it. They can set the line at whatever they want to whomever they want. Then the bettor has a decision to make. What I have a problem with is the delayed responses coming back with a rejected bet. I have a couple houses that delay me but it has always been accepted to this point though so no gripe here but I have heard others say this has happened.

 

[CAPNCRUNCH]

Very dificult to do in this day and age! No major store could deal split lines effectively anymore!

 

[Fishhead]

I have mixed emotions on this one. Technically speaking, I have no moral objection to a book or a bookie dealing different lines to different people. After all, there is no gun to your head that you have to place a bet once you learn a line. Also, it's possible they guess the wrong way with you, and you end up getting a better line than you expected....On the other hand, I feel like a book should probably be more focused on getting equal action on a number than farming out lines to people....Where do you come down on this?

My stance on this is that I have no major problems with a sportsbook dealing two lines and feel they are doing nothing unreputable whatsoever in doing this practice.

However, I have more respect for a sportsbook if they are up front about this to their customers, or more importantly, DO NOT try and disguise the fact they deal two lines.

Always an interesting discussion arises when this subject is brought up at the RX.

-FISH-

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[VaultedTreehouse]

See Fish, that's how I feel. I have no problem with them actually doing it, but don't understand why a top flight organization would need to.

 

[blueedwards]

Very dificult to do in this day and age! No major store could deal split lines effectively anymore!

bodog and bowmans do it. they are pretty major players too.

 

[vonmellenthen]

seems reasonable to me,the book deserves a couple advantages,but as royalfan posts,a delayed response followed by a rejection or changed line is unfair.

 

[SteveMcGarrett]

Dont most locals do this anyway? For instance, if a player who always bets fav and over on monday night, the bookie will read him a line haigher than that he is giving most of his players because he knows thats what this guy bets all the time. So by offering a so called square line, books are just doing what most locals do.

 

[blueedwards]

Dont most locals do this anyway? For instance, if a player who always bets fav and over on monday night, the bookie will read him a line haigher than that he is giving most of his players because he knows thats what this guy bets all the time. So by offering a so called square line, books are just doing what most locals do.

i'm sure many locals do this.

 

[CAPNCRUNCH]

bodog and bowmans do it. they are pretty major players too.

Blue: it can be done, but Im not so sure if its done effectively. Very easy to piss off your players when two friends or mates get different lines. Personally, I would love it but most punters dont know enough to use this to their advantage!

 

[blueedwards]

Blue: it can be done, but Im not so sure if its done effectively. Very easy to piss off your players when two friends or mates get different lines. Personally, I would love it but most punters dont know enough to use this to their advantage!

you cant use it to your advantage...thats why they deal 2 lines. you hit the big dog once and you get switched to the vanilla lines. the suckers who play a favorite regardless of the line are the ones who get hammered.

 

[Mr.Smith]

I helped a friend with this once. He lived in Atlanta and usually bet $30-50 a game. He asked me what the line was on the Falcons-Saints game. I told him on-line it was Falcons-6 or -6.5.

He said his local was always screwing him on the Falcons line and he was sick of it. I told him to call the guy and get the line, he does and guy tells him Falcons -8. I tell my friend to call back put a dime on New Orleans +8 and I'll put in a dime on Falcons -6 on-line and we will split the profits if there are any.

Falcons win the game by 7 and that bookie never, ever screwed my friend on the lines again. Not even in college where my friend would ALWAYS bet Florida State. Guy was killing him moving the lines like FSU-27 vs Duke, he would bet quoted -28.5. Never happened again after the Falcons incident though, he was always quoted fair lines. That was the point, I never expected to be able to keep middling this local but he stopped shading my friends favorite teams way up.

 

[CAPNCRUNCH]

you cant use it to your advantage...thats why they deal 2 lines. you hit the big dog once and you get switched to the vanilla lines. the suckers who play a favorite regardless of the line are the ones who get hammered.

Are these post-up stores you are talking about? And if so why not just hammer them on the dog and sign up again as somebody else?:hump:

 

[Woody0]

I'm not sure if I got my first bet at the sharp line at Bowmans but my second and subsequent bets were on the sharp line.

Signing up again would probably need a new IP address and new equipment if they read MAC addresses.

 

[blueedwards]

Are these post-up stores you are talking about? And if so why not just hammer them on the dog and sign up again as somebody else?:hump:

too much trouble. just have an account at sia.

 

[CAPNCRUNCH]

I'm not sure if I got my first bet at the sharp line at Bowmans but my second and subsequent bets were on the sharp line.

Signing up again would probably need a new IP address and new equipment if they read MAC addresses.

I know I'm ancient but I thought the MAC was the Mid-Atlantic Conference or the Military Airlift Command?:lolBIG:

 

[Woody0]

http://www-dcn.fnal.gov/DCG-Docs/mac/

 

[DarrylParsons]

I agree more or less with Fish in that the deceptive part is what gets to me. I mean, if you really want to be up front about it, then it's not a dual line anymore, is it? Instead, it's a line with 10c extra juice.

From a player's perspective it's no big deal really. Just keep in mind that Bowmans and Bodog deal 30c lines (20c on baseball) and so it's best to stay away from them with a 10-foot pole. Plenty of reduced juice shops out there...no need to pay MORE than standard juice.

 

[THE SHRINK]

I love two lines...

One for Wiseguys and One for me...

THE SHRINK

 

[assassin]

This is not just happening in spotsbooks. Recent article in the Phila Inquirer reagrding ebay. Seems that ebay was also dealing dual prices, based on info it has previously caputed on customers. Something to think about.