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Who Exposed Secret Agent Plame?
How about the least likely suspect?

This just in: Bob Novak did not reveal that Valerie Plame was an undercover agent for the CIA.

<!--#include virtual="/includes/include_2002_skyscraper.html" -->Read — or reread — his column from July 14, 2003. All Novak reports is that the wife of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson is “an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction.”

Novak has said repeatedly that he was not told, and that he did not know, that Plame was — or had ever been — a NOC, an agent with Non-Official Cover. He has emphatically said that had he understood that she was any sort of secret agent, he would never have named her.

As for Novak’s use of the word “operative,” he might as easily have called her an “official,” an “analyst, or an “employee.” But, as a longtime newsman, he instinctively chose the sexiest term (one he routinely applies to political figures, too, i.e. “a party operative”).

Reread Novak’s article, and you’ll also see that Novak in no way denigrates Wilson. On the contrary, he talks of Wilson’s “heroism” in Iraq in 1991. And nowhere in his column does he say — or even imply — that Wilson was unqualified to conduct the Niger investigation or that Plame was responsible for getting him the assignment — merely that she “suggested sending him.”

Even so, it is unclear whether Novak’s sources may have committed a crime by talking to Novak about Plame. That would depend on a number of variables involving what they knew about Plame and how they came to know it. A prosecutor would have the power to compel Novak to testify regarding what was said to him and by whom.

Is this splitting hairs? Not at all. In Washington, plenty of people are acquainted with CIA operatives who are not working undercover. For example, when a CIA analyst wrote a book under the pseudonym “Anonymous,” it was widely known that Anonymous was the Agency’s Michael Scheuer. Before long, someone revealed that in print. No crime was committed or alleged — no classified information had been disclosed, no NOC had been exposed.

So if Novak did not reveal that Valerie Plame was a secret agent, who did? The evidence strongly suggests it was none other than Joe Wilson himself. Let me walk you through the steps that lead to this conclusion.

The first reference to Plame being a secret agent appears in The Nation, in an article by David Corn published July 16, 2003, just two days after Novak’s column appeared. It carried this lead: “Did Bush officials blow the cover of a U.S. intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security — and break the law — in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?”

Since Novak did not report that Plame was “working covertly” how did Corn know that’s what she had been doing?

Corn does not tell his readers and he has responded to a query from me only by pointing out that he was asking a question, not making a “statement of fact.” But in the article, he asserts that Novak “outed” Plame “as an undercover CIA officer.” Again, Novak did not do that. Rather, it is Corn who is, apparently for the first time, “outing” Plame’s “undercover” status.

Corn follows that assertion with a quote from Wilson saying, “I will not answer questions about my wife.” Any reporter worth his salt would immediately wonder: Did Wilson indeed answer Corn’s questions about his wife — after Corn agreed not to quote his answers but to use them only on background? Read the rest of Corn’s piece and it’s difficult to believe anything else. Corn names no other sources for the information he provides — and he provides much more information than Novak revealed.

Corn also claims that Wilson “will not confirm nor deny that his wife …works for the CIA.” Corn adds: “But let’s assume she does. That would seem to mean that the Bush administration has screwed one of its own top-secret operatives in order to punish Wilson …”

On what basis could Corn “assume” that Plame was not only working covertly but was actually a “top-secret” operative? And where did Corn get the idea that Plame had been “outed” in order to punish Wilson? That is not suggested by anything in the Novak column which, as I noted, is sympathetic to Wilson and Plame.

The likely answer: The allegation that someone in the administration leaked to Novak as a way to punish Wilson was made by Wilson — to Corn. But Corn, rather than quote Wilson, puts the idea forward as his own.

Keep in mind that from early on there were two possible but contradictory scenarios:

1) Members of the Bush administration intentionally exposed a covert CIA agent as a way to take revenge against her husband who had written a critical op-ed.

2) Members of the Bush administration were attempting to set the record straight by telling reporters that it was not Vice President Cheney who sent Wilson on the Africa assignment as Wilson claimed; rather Wilson’s wife, a CIA employee, helped get him the assignment. (And that is indeed the conclusion of the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee.)

Corn’s article then goes on to provide specific details about Plame’s undercover work, her “dicey and difficult mission of tracking parties trying to buy or sell weapons of mass destruction or WMD material.” But how does Corn know about that? From what source could he have learned it?

Corn concludes that Plame’s career “has been destroyed by the Bush administration.” And here he does, finally, quote Wilson directly. Wilson says: “Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career. This is the stuff of Kim Philby and Aldrich Ames.”

Corn has assured us several times that Wilson refused to answer questions about his wife, refused to confirm or deny that she worked for the CIA, refused to “acknowledge whether she is a deep-cover CIA employee.” But he is willing to say on the record that “naming her this way” was an act of treachery? That’s not talking about his wife? That’s not providing confirmation? There is only one way to interpret this: Wilson did indeed talk about his wife, her work as a secret agent, and other matters to Corn (and perhaps others?) on a confidential basis.

If Wilson did tell Corn that his wife was an undercover agent, did he commit a crime? I don’t claim to know. But the charge that someone committed a crime by naming Plame as a covert agent was also made by Corn, apparently for the first time, in this same article. No doubt, the independent prosecutor and the grand jury will sort it out.

Criminality aside, if Wilson revealed to Corn that Plame worked as a CIA “deep-cover” operative “tracking parties trying to buy or sell” WMDs, surely that’s news.

And it is consequential: On the basis of Novak’s story alone, it is highly unlikely that anyone would have had a clue that Plame — presumably under a different name and while living in a foreign country — had been a NOC. At most, her friends in Washington would have been surprised to learn that she didn’t work where she said she worked.

But once Corn published the fact that Plame had been a “top-secret operative,” and once he quoted Wilson saying what exposing his wife would mean — and once Plame posed for Vanity Fair photographers — anyone who had ever known her in a different context and with a different identity would have been tipped off.

But they would not have been tipped by Novak — nor, based on what we know so far, by Karl Rove. Rather, it appears they would have been tipped off by Joe Wilson who, the publicly available evidence strongly suggests, leaked like a sieve to The Nation’s David Corn.

Clifford D. May, a former New York Times foreign correspondent, is president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a policy institute focusing on terrorism.


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:lolBIG: How can't this surprise me if true......he's such a snake in the grass!!!!
 

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Here's a good email conversation between Corn and Cliff May before that article was written...

This morning, I have a piece up elsewhere on NRO showing that The Nation’s David Corn--not syndicated columnist Bob Novak--was the first to reveal that Valerie Plame was an undercover operative. It further suggests that David did so based on information provided to him by none other than Joseph C. Wilson IV.

While working on that piece, I had an exchange with David and, with his permission, I thought I’d share that with you.
Dear David:

I have a question--one you may not be willing to answer but I’m curious so let me try:

Novak’s column said that Plame was an “Agency operative.” Novak claims he didn’t know--and didn’t mean to imply--that she was a covert agent.

Your piece, a few days later, says quite explicitly that Plame was “a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to nationally security.”

How did you know that?

- Cliff
David responded:


Come on, Cliff. I'm disappointed in you--especially as a former NY Times reporter. Here's what I wrote:

Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?

You will note that this is a question, not a statement of fact.
David then quotes extensively from his piece, which I had already read several times and which you can find here.

I then sent him this message:
Dear David,

You’re too loyal to acknowledge that Wilson was your source.

You’re also too honest to deny it.

Allbest,

Cliff
David replied:
You wrote:

You’re too loyal to acknowledge that Wilson was your source.

You’re also too honest to deny it.

All I can say again is, nice try. When I spoke to Joe Wilson after the Novak leak, he would not tell me whether or not his wife worked at the CIA. He spoke only in hypotheticals. He said, imagine if she did, what would this leak mean, AND imagine if she did not, what would this leak mean. So I do deny that he told me because he did not. That's the truth, the absolute truth. No spin. No parsing. No stonewalling. If you find any wiggle room in this response, let me know and I will unwiggle it. And you can believe it or not.

David

PS Mind if I write about our correspondence?


My final message to him:
Dear David,

You’re a good reporter. You know when a hypothetical is really a confirmation.

When Wilson told you: “So, hypothetically, here’s what it what it would mean if my wife were a top-secret agent--which I’m not saying she was; and here’s what it would mean if she had been on undercover on dangerous missions tracking WMD purchases abroad--which, of course, I’m not saying ever happened; and here’s what the consequence would be for her extensive network of sources if she were exposed, though I’m still not confirming anything…”--you knew exactly what he was telling you with a wink and a nudge.

Bob Novak did not know that Plame was or had ever been an undercover agent. His sources didn’t tell him that. He did not write that she was an undercover agent. If he had known she was a secret agent of any sort he says he would never have published her name.

Novak has maintained all that consistently. I’ve disagreed with Bob Novak on many issues and on many occasions. I’ve debated him publicly--on the war in Iraq, among other things, where he probably is more in agreement with Wilson than with me.

But one thing about Bob Novak: He’s been around this town about 50 years. He’s a patriot. He would not knowingly burn a spy. And he doesn’t lie. You don’t stay a major media figure for half a century if you’re a liar.

Let me say this clearly: Novak did not know and did not reveal that Plame had been an undercover operative.

You were the first to reveal that.

You did that hypothetically, of course. You were just asking a question, of course. You didn’t know whether she was or was not what you called “a top-secret operative”--but you thought it sure would be interesting if you raised that possibility.

And how much more interesting if you accused the Bush administration of purposely leaking that information as a way to punish Wilson--which has been Wilson’s allegation all along-- since he claimed (falsely it turns out) Cheney’s office sent him to Niger.

You and I know that he shared all this with you and more--hypothetically, of course.

You got this snowball rolling, David. And it produced the avalanche you and Wilson expected it would. I give you full credit for that.

You certainly may write about our correspondence.

I may do that, too.

Allbest,

Cliff
 

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Republican Machine Is The Best

Spin Room Now In High Gear With Plenty Of Experience Going Back To Watergate.
 
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How Pat got that article is beyond me. Good work. Thats amazing that you would think to go there

and

Aqautic is right. But I havent seen some great balls to the wall spin in a while so this entertaining

Carry on boys
 

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RobFunk said:
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How Pat got that article is beyond me. Good work. Thats amazing that you would think to go there

and

Aqautic is right. But I havent seen some great balls to the wall spin in a while so this entertaining

Carry on boys

You know how it works Rob. When your side gets destroyed in an argument, you acknowledge it by congratulating the opponent for their fine spinning.

It is much easier than saying "We were wrong. Sorry Mr. Rove."
 

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The latest lie being floated by Karl Rove and the GOP machine is that "Rove claims he learned about Plame being CIA from other journalists and not from government sources." Of course, the Republicans think that this will exonerate their new hero.

It will not. As a matter of fact, it only goes to show this White House as being WORSE on National Security.

If it were true, that a senior White House aide heard from a journalist about a person who was CIA, then wouldn't the following steps have taken place?



  1. <LI value=1>Rove should have immediately informed the reporter or reporters that discussing the identity of a CIA agent may be illegal.
    <LI value=2>Rove should have then called George Tenet and inquired about whether or not the agent was undercover.
    <LI value=3>Upon learning the undercover status of said agent, Rove should have then told Tenet to quickly alert the agent and inform them that their cover had been blown.
  2. Rove should have then turned over the names of the reporters to the CIA for investigation.


NONE of the above four actions took place. Had Rove actually heard Plame's name from the media, this is EXACTLY what Rove should have done.



Well, at least it's what a Democratic administration would have done....but then, we're the ones who actually give a rat's ass about our national security.
 
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919 said:
Well, at least it's what a Democratic administration would have done....but then, we're the ones who actually give a rat's ass about our national security.

I wish that was so. Do a google search of President Clinton's inner circle. Remember Sandy Burger?
 
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<CITE>Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.</CITE>
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operative

adj 1: being in force or having or exerting force; "operative regulations"; "the major tendencies operative in the American political system" [ant: inoperative] 2: of or relating to a surgical operation; "operative surgery" 3: relating to or requiring or amenable to treatment by surgery especially as opposed to medicine; "a surgical appendix"; "a surgical procedure"; "operative dentistry" [syn: surgical] [ant: medical] 4: effective; producing a desired effect; "the operative word" [syn: key] 5: (of e.g. a machine) performing or capable of performing; "in running (or working) order"; "a functional set of brakes" [syn: running(a), functional, working(a)] n 1: a person secretly employed in espionage for a government [syn: secret agent, intelligence officer, intelligence agent] 2: someone who can be employed as a detective to collect information [syn: private detective, PI, private eye, private investigator, shamus, sherlock]
Nice try though.:103631605

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  1. <LI value=1>
    <LI value=1>Rove should have immediately informed the reporter or reporters that discussing the identity of a CIA agent may be illegal. <LI value=2>Rove should have then called George Tenet and inquired about whether or not the agent was undercover. <LI value=3>Upon learning the undercover status of said agent, Rove should have then told Tenet to quickly alert the agent and inform them that their cover had been blown.
    [*]Rove should have then turned over the names of the reporters to the CIA for investigation.
Rove did tell Cooper this was on Super Duper So Secret Double Background Swear On My Decoder Ring.
So I assume the only thing Rove can do now that the cats out of the bag is commit Triple Secret Suicide.
 

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