D-backs get Dunn from Reds for three prospects

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2 players to be named later. Reds getting rid of everyone. Unreal..
 

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Great trade by the Reds. Dunn is the most overrated player in the game. JP said it best when he said with Dunn you're getting a guy that will hit around .230 and lead the league in K's. No thanks.

Don't the D-Backs have enough guys that strikeout daily already?
 

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D-Backs just lost O-Dog for the year. Much bigger loss. AZ's team batting avg, already poor is going to get worse losing Hudson and gaining Dunn.
 

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Great trade by the Reds. Dunn is the most overrated player in the game. JP said it best when he said with Dunn you're getting a guy that will hit around .230 and lead the league in K's. No thanks.

Don't the D-Backs have enough guys that strikeout daily already?

Clearly you have no clue what you're talking about. If anything, Dunn is underrated because of the low BA (fucking inane statistic btw) and K's (another stat that isn't all that important). He gets on base almost 40 percent of the time and slugs over .500 every year but there's no value in those numbers, is there? The only people I've ever heard bash Dunn are idiots with very little understanding of the game. But hey, people like you who keep looking at pointless stats like batting average and wins by starters put those who know what they're talking about that much further ahead.
 
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do you guys realize Dunn's numbers are identical to those of Ryan Howard. but if this was "Ryan Howard to the the D-Backs", everyone would be saying how awesome of a pickup it is for AZ
 

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have to agree with asu here. sure dunn is going to strike out. a lot. but he also completely changes the complexion of the arizona lineup and how guys in front and behind will be pitched to. you cant always quantify a guys value with stats. he does a great job of getting on base and the dbacks are right there with the cubs as the favs in the west imo.
 

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Clearly you have no clue what you're talking about. If anything, Dunn is underrated because of the low BA (fucking inane statistic btw) and K's (another stat that isn't all that important). He gets on base almost 40 percent of the time and slugs over .500 every year but there's no value in those numbers, is there? The only people I've ever heard bash Dunn are idiots with very little understanding of the game. But hey, people like you who keep looking at pointless stats like batting average and wins by starters put those who know what they're talking about that much further ahead.

More like 37.3%. Dunn is alright. Not sure about the under or over rating because I'm not sure where he's rated. But he is one of the worst defensive outfielders I've ever seen.

In any case, losing Hudson may have dashed their playoff chances. I'd be surprised if LA doesn't pass them.
 

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do you guys realize Dunn's numbers are identical to those of Ryan Howard. but if this was "Ryan Howard to the the D-Backs", everyone would be saying how awesome of a pickup it is for AZ

They are similar this season because Howard had a horrific start, but if you go back to past years the comparison isn't there.
 

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This is a better pickup for the Dbacks than Manny was for the Dodgers.
 

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Why? He's just as good offensively and roughly the same with the glove. Plus, his addition doesn't allow guys like Juan Pierre or Andruw Jones to take away at bats from legitimate major league hitters like Manny's did.
 

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Dunn's okay. Good power hitter but played in a tiny park. Now moving to a bigger park so the power numbers will go down. They'll still have to put up with millions of strikeouts and low contact rates. A guy like Dunn is a good fit for a small stadium but not sure about this at all. He's a power hitter who is at his best with a smaller fence.
 
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hes good offensively, hes not as good as manny cmon. i dont have to look at stats to know that. manny also clutch
 

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Dunn's okay. Good power hitter but played in a tiny park. Now moving to a bigger park so the power numbers will go down. They'll still have to put up with millions of strikeouts and low contact rates. A guy like Dunn is a good fit for a small stadium but not sure about this at all. He's a power hitter who is at his best with a smaller fence.

First of all, chase field is a hitter's park. The ball carries well there. Second of all, and most important, Dunn's home runs aren't the kind that only go 330 and barely get over the fence. They routinely go 400+ feet, making your point moot.
I can't believe people take you seriously. Is espn the only place you get your "knowledge" from?
 

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First of all, chase field is a hitter's park. The ball carries well there. Second of all, and most important, Dunn's home runs aren't the kind that only go 330 and barely get over the fence. They routinely go 400+ feet, making your point moot.
I can't believe people take you seriously. Is espn the only place you get your "knowledge" from?

10 feet further to left center. 10 feet further to right center. 10 feet more down the right field line.

20 foot high walls in the outfield compared to 8 foot walls in Cincy.

Hell, sounds exactly like the same park, right?

Please do your homework before you throw insults around. It's fine if you make a good point and feel like making an insult, I don't mind, but you just look foolish when you try it after making a bad one.

Dunn has 22 more home runs at home than on the road. Dunn hits most of his home runs down right field, to right center, or to center. The smallest part of Arizona's stadium is down the left field line. Not saying he doesn't have the power to still knock em out, but you would be an idiot to assume his power numbers don't go down in a stadium that is larger with higher walls.

Not saying he's going to lose his home run stroke, but there is no way his numbers stay the same.
 

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Why? He's just as good offensively and roughly the same with the glove. Plus, his addition doesn't allow guys like Juan Pierre or Andruw Jones to take away at bats from legitimate major league hitters like Manny's did.
 

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PS, not saying he's a bad acquisition. Just saying that he won't be as effective as a power hitter in a large park. There is a difference between losing power numbers and being straight out ineffective.
 

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