IF I HERE ONE MORE PERSON IN CHICAGO TELL ME THIS TEAM WAS TIRED, I WILL JUST SCREAM. I THINK MOST OF US HERE WORK 8-10 HOURS A DAY AND 5 OR 6 DAYS A WEEK......IF THESE LAZY BUMS WHO WORK 3 HOURS A DAY AND 1/2 THE TIME ARE STANDING AROUND CAN NOT CUT IT GET A REAL JOB LIKE THE REST OF US..........:finger:
CHICAGO -- WGN-TV analyst Steve Stone met Friday with Chicago Cubs president Andy MacPhail, general manager Jim Hendry and manager Dusty Baker after the broadcaster questioned managerial strategy and criticized the team's approach.
During a postgame TV show Thursday, Stone wondered about Baker's moves in the 12th inning of a 2-1 loss to the Reds.
Later that night, he went on a talk show on WGN radio and criticized the team for making excuses. WGN and the Cubs are both owned by the same company, Tribune Co.
Stone, in his 20th year as a Cubs broadcaster, is a former major league pitcher with the Cubs who won the Cy Young Award for Baltimore in 1980 when he went 25-7.
His comments have angered several players during the season. Reliever Kent Mercker called the booth during one August game to complain.
Hendry said Stone's comments Thursday went beyond constructive criticism.
"I think it was pretty clear yesterday that it was personal," Hendry said.
"It shocked me," Baker said. "I don't understand it, I don't understand the timing of it. It's bad timing. If there is something personal, you need to talk about it with somebody instead of broadcasting it to everyone else."
Stone didn't spare his opinion when he was interviewed by WGN-AM radio Thursday.
"You want the truth. You can't handle the truth," Stone said. "The truth of this situation is an extremely talented bunch of guys who want to look at all directions except where they should really look and kind of make excuses for what happened.
"At the end of the day, boys, don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship."
Stone went on to say that the Cubs should have already clinched the NL wild card by six or seven games, instead of trailing by one entering play in the final weekend.
Asked Friday about his future, Stone said: "What happened was I had extended conversations with Andy MacPhail, with Jim Hendry and with Dusty Baker at length. And I think we resolved everything. That's pretty much it."
"We all have things that if we had them to think over again we might change them. But my comments are my comments," he said.
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During a postgame TV show Thursday, Stone wondered about Baker's moves in the 12th inning of a 2-1 loss to the Reds.
Later that night, he went on a talk show on WGN radio and criticized the team for making excuses. WGN and the Cubs are both owned by the same company, Tribune Co.
Stone, in his 20th year as a Cubs broadcaster, is a former major league pitcher with the Cubs who won the Cy Young Award for Baltimore in 1980 when he went 25-7.
His comments have angered several players during the season. Reliever Kent Mercker called the booth during one August game to complain.
Hendry said Stone's comments Thursday went beyond constructive criticism.
"I think it was pretty clear yesterday that it was personal," Hendry said.
"It shocked me," Baker said. "I don't understand it, I don't understand the timing of it. It's bad timing. If there is something personal, you need to talk about it with somebody instead of broadcasting it to everyone else."
Stone didn't spare his opinion when he was interviewed by WGN-AM radio Thursday.
"You want the truth. You can't handle the truth," Stone said. "The truth of this situation is an extremely talented bunch of guys who want to look at all directions except where they should really look and kind of make excuses for what happened.
"At the end of the day, boys, don't tell me how rough the water is, you bring in the ship."
Stone went on to say that the Cubs should have already clinched the NL wild card by six or seven games, instead of trailing by one entering play in the final weekend.
Asked Friday about his future, Stone said: "What happened was I had extended conversations with Andy MacPhail, with Jim Hendry and with Dusty Baker at length. And I think we resolved everything. That's pretty much it."
"We all have things that if we had them to think over again we might change them. But my comments are my comments," he said.
AP NEWS
I Have Made Comments About Stone Prior To This Latest News...stone Is A Ridiculous Jerk Of Announcer.....i Have Never Heard Any Announcer Color Commentate Quite Like Him... That Being Said, I Heard Nomar Layed Down A Bunt With A Man On First And One Out Down By A Run In The Bottom Of The 12th Yesterday....if Dusty Called For A Bunt In That Situation He Should Be Fired.....nomar Is Hurt Still And Can't Run, Why Would He Be Bunting There?
I Saw On The Scoreline Nomar Got Credit For A Sac And I Assumed It Was A Mistake...you Mean To Tell Me The Cubs Were Willing To Give Up Nomar's Bat To Get The Runner Over Down By A Run And Then Having One Out Left?
I Saw On The Scoreline Nomar Got Credit For A Sac And I Assumed It Was A Mistake...you Mean To Tell Me The Cubs Were Willing To Give Up Nomar's Bat To Get The Runner Over Down By A Run And Then Having One Out Left?
wilheim said:
Steve Stone, imo, is the best baseball commentator around. Maybe he should be managing the Cubs, and Dusty should be in the booth talking about the differences between black and white ballplayers.
Imagine if Steve Stone was talking about how black players can't stand cold weather. hmmm......
i cant believe the gm and the manager of the team, in the middle of a pennant race, have a meeting with the team's announcer to discuss what is being said on the air. its good to know that the cubs management has their priorities in order...let's chastise the best announcer in baseball for being too critical; when we are done with that, let's figure out how to beeat the braves so we keep our dim playoff hopes alive. just pathetic.
by the way, is journeyman tommy mullins? sure looks like it...no one else capitalizes every word in every sentence. j-man, what's with the ghosts?
by the way, is journeyman tommy mullins? sure looks like it...no one else capitalizes every word in every sentence. j-man, what's with the ghosts?
FWIW - (my 2nd one in this thread) the caps thing with this new software will cause some browsers to cap the first letter of each word if they try to use all upeercase letters when they post. I very much doubt that JMan is Tommy Mullins.
Odds JMAN is T. Mullins:
NO -200,000
Yes +180,000
wil.
Odds JMAN is T. Mullins:
NO -200,000
Yes +180,000
wil.
"....the cubs are tired....long season" LOL!!!!!
The Cubs have an incredibly long history of late season folds.
Old timers (like me) out there....Remember when the excuse was that, since Wrigley Field had no lights, the Cubs always wilted because of all the day games they had to play during the season? Well, fans, they got lights on the North Side now.
As much as I still love them, the Cubbies are running out of excuses.
(Although this Brooklyn boy started out as a Dodger fan, I lived 10 years in Chicago area. I loved watching games in Wrigley field, but liked the Sox organization better. Bring back Bill Veek!! - his son is doing something in the minors, isn't he?)
The Cubs have an incredibly long history of late season folds.
Old timers (like me) out there....Remember when the excuse was that, since Wrigley Field had no lights, the Cubs always wilted because of all the day games they had to play during the season? Well, fans, they got lights on the North Side now.
As much as I still love them, the Cubbies are running out of excuses.
(Although this Brooklyn boy started out as a Dodger fan, I lived 10 years in Chicago area. I loved watching games in Wrigley field, but liked the Sox organization better. Bring back Bill Veek!! - his son is doing something in the minors, isn't he?)
Let it be so fitting as I revel in the pointless mediocrity of Sammy the underachiever, to Baker-the do nothing manger; I hate the fvcking Cubs. The look of anguish on their faces, as the season crumbles into dust, quenches my thirst as I drink, like a fine wine cascading down my throat.
Cubs I bid you adieu
Dr.
:finger: :drink: :breakit: :aktion033
arty: :hihi :toast:
Cubs I bid you adieu
Dr.
:finger: :drink: :breakit: :aktion033
arty: :hihi :toast:
Only 2 things wrong with this team.
First and most important... these guys are really, really tired !! LOL
Second,
These guys play stupid. Sammy I believe is missing his steroids ! 1 st. year that there is testing and He is hitting .250 with about a zillion strikeout ! How can you blame Dusty Baker for that ? Pathetic !
First and most important... these guys are really, really tired !! LOL
Second,
These guys play stupid. Sammy I believe is missing his steroids ! 1 st. year that there is testing and He is hitting .250 with about a zillion strikeout ! How can you blame Dusty Baker for that ? Pathetic !
LOL - I was not Simple Game....thats funny... I did you use to spoof post as Tout JR MILLER....I wonder what ever happened to Simple Game, another character?
Cubs had me fooled too...but towards the end of the yr, you could see they couldnt string together a long streak because they simply do not play the game the way its suppose to be played....Their a softball slugging, all or nothing team...Leadoff man can't bunt strikes out too much, Dusty had Lee batting 2nd recently...lol And of all things, Nomar bunting in that situation yesterday takes the cake...
Cubs had me fooled too...but towards the end of the yr, you could see they couldnt string together a long streak because they simply do not play the game the way its suppose to be played....Their a softball slugging, all or nothing team...Leadoff man can't bunt strikes out too much, Dusty had Lee batting 2nd recently...lol And of all things, Nomar bunting in that situation yesterday takes the cake...
