This is 1,000 times worse than Sore Loserman.
These people are totally f-ing pathetic.
Note that "Unlike in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, the election winner in Michigan can object to a recount."
And, In PA, a judge has to order a recount. (If what I've read is correct). Stein has no evidence of fraud and I don't see how a judge would order a recount.
These people are totally f-ing pathetic.
Note that "Unlike in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, the election winner in Michigan can object to a recount."
And, In PA, a judge has to order a recount. (If what I've read is correct). Stein has no evidence of fraud and I don't see how a judge would order a recount.
People Urging a Vote Recount in Pa. “In Denial,” Says Local Election Attorney
On top of that, Democratic election law attorney Adam Bonin said that those who are asking for a vote recount just might not be paying enough attention.
Election Day returns are unofficial counts. The actual counting of votes started three days after the election, and it’s “a rigorous and public process,” Bonin said, which people can observe with their own eyes at their county’s Board of Elections. “Every machine tape is looked at, every paper ballot is examined — and if there is any ambiguity, any discrepancies, that gets looked at, and that gets corrected,” Bonin said. “It is usually very boring process.”
Bonin believes many people are just looking for a path that doesn’t result in Trump as president. But more people would have faith in the process if they actually watched it, he said.
“If there were any real question, I and every Democratic election law attorney in the state would be convening teams to go to every county and every table in the commonwealth to find out what happened here,” Bonin said.
On top of that, Democratic election law attorney Adam Bonin said that those who are asking for a vote recount just might not be paying enough attention.
Election Day returns are unofficial counts. The actual counting of votes started three days after the election, and it’s “a rigorous and public process,” Bonin said, which people can observe with their own eyes at their county’s Board of Elections. “Every machine tape is looked at, every paper ballot is examined — and if there is any ambiguity, any discrepancies, that gets looked at, and that gets corrected,” Bonin said. “It is usually very boring process.”
Bonin believes many people are just looking for a path that doesn’t result in Trump as president. But more people would have faith in the process if they actually watched it, he said.
“If there were any real question, I and every Democratic election law attorney in the state would be convening teams to go to every county and every table in the commonwealth to find out what happened here,” Bonin said.
Yup...
The most crooked party to ever participate in an election can't even overcome
-illegals voting
-dead people voting
-election machines owned by Soros
-fraudulent absentee ballots
-who knows what other fraud they use
And now are demanding a recount. They suspect foul play. Too fucking funny.
I hope Trump sends this **** to prison.
The most crooked party to ever participate in an election can't even overcome
-illegals voting
-dead people voting
-election machines owned by Soros
-fraudulent absentee ballots
-who knows what other fraud they use
And now are demanding a recount. They suspect foul play. Too fucking funny.
I hope Trump sends this **** to prison.
Almost December and now a recount....lol
November 27, 2016
The Democrats’ real strategy in launching recounts
By Richard Baehr
The recount in Wisconsin, and the coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change the outcomes in any of the states. No recount ever changes thousands of votes. I do not think that is the purpose.
The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270.
Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time Pthis happened since 1824, but in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson.
If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it? The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress.
The Democrats’ real strategy in launching recounts
By Richard Baehr
The recount in Wisconsin, and the coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change the outcomes in any of the states. No recount ever changes thousands of votes. I do not think that is the purpose.
The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270.
Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time Pthis happened since 1824, but in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson.
If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it? The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress.
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Could Jill Stein's vote recount change the outcome of the election?[/h]
[FONT="]In two days, Jill Stein [/FONT]raised more than enough money[FONT="], more than $5m, to file for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, though her campaign is still seeking about $2m more to cover the associated legal fees.
[/FONT][FONT="]Results in these battleground states were narrow, with Trump winning by just 0.3% in Michigan, 1.2% in Pennsylvania, and 0.7% in Wisconsin. If Clinton had won all of these states’ 46 electoral college votes, it have would been enough for her to win the presidency.
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[FONT="]But the recount process is intensive, expensive and unlikely to change the outcome of the election unless widespread voter fraud is proven. Experts have been skeptical that is the case.
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[FONT="]In Wisconsin – where her team was due to file a recount motion by Friday afternoon – election officials would have to examine millions of paper ballots and the paper trails of the 5% of votes cast on electronic touch-screen machines.
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[FONT="]Wisconsin election commission director Michael Haas told local news that the commission was preparing for a recount, though it had not seen evidence of interference in the state’s voting system. “We don’t have any reason to suspect that any voting equipment has been tampered with,” Haas said.
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[FONT="]Unofficial results showed Trump won Wisconsin by more than 27,000 votes. The state has never conducted a presidential recount, but Stein’s campaign said it would file a motion for a recount on Friday before the deadline to do so in the state.[/FONT]
[FONT="]In Pennsylvania, there is no paper trail – a problem election observers anticipated ahead of the 8 November race. “The nightmare scenario would be if Pennsylvania decides the election and it is very close. You would have no paper records to do a recount,” Lawrence Norden, the co-author of a report on voting machines, told the Los Angeles Times in late October.
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[FONT="]But because machines there are not connected to the internet, like those in Michigan, officials said they couldn’t be hacked.
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[FONT="]Across the whole of the US, about three-quarters of voters mark paper ballots that are counted electronically by an optical scanner, according to the nonpartisan group Verified Voting, which examines how new technology affects voting integrity. But some states, including Pennsylvania, rely almost entirely on touchscreen computer voting that does not produce a paper trail. The punch card ballots that resulted in the disputed hanging chads during the Florida recount in 2000 are no longer used.
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[FONT="]Trump was declared the winner in Michigan on Thursday by 10,704 votes, and the election director there insists there was no evidence of hacking. “It’s just conjecture, and I don’t think that serves anyone’s good purpose,” said Chris Thomas, the longtime director of Michigan’s Bureau of Elections.[/FONT]
Could Jill Stein's vote recount change the outcome of the election?[/h]
[FONT="]In two days, Jill Stein [/FONT]raised more than enough money[FONT="], more than $5m, to file for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, though her campaign is still seeking about $2m more to cover the associated legal fees.
[/FONT][FONT="]Results in these battleground states were narrow, with Trump winning by just 0.3% in Michigan, 1.2% in Pennsylvania, and 0.7% in Wisconsin. If Clinton had won all of these states’ 46 electoral college votes, it have would been enough for her to win the presidency.
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[FONT="]But the recount process is intensive, expensive and unlikely to change the outcome of the election unless widespread voter fraud is proven. Experts have been skeptical that is the case.
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[FONT="]In Wisconsin – where her team was due to file a recount motion by Friday afternoon – election officials would have to examine millions of paper ballots and the paper trails of the 5% of votes cast on electronic touch-screen machines.
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[FONT="]Wisconsin election commission director Michael Haas told local news that the commission was preparing for a recount, though it had not seen evidence of interference in the state’s voting system. “We don’t have any reason to suspect that any voting equipment has been tampered with,” Haas said.
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[FONT="]Unofficial results showed Trump won Wisconsin by more than 27,000 votes. The state has never conducted a presidential recount, but Stein’s campaign said it would file a motion for a recount on Friday before the deadline to do so in the state.[/FONT]
[FONT="]In Pennsylvania, there is no paper trail – a problem election observers anticipated ahead of the 8 November race. “The nightmare scenario would be if Pennsylvania decides the election and it is very close. You would have no paper records to do a recount,” Lawrence Norden, the co-author of a report on voting machines, told the Los Angeles Times in late October.
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[FONT="]But because machines there are not connected to the internet, like those in Michigan, officials said they couldn’t be hacked.
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[FONT="]Across the whole of the US, about three-quarters of voters mark paper ballots that are counted electronically by an optical scanner, according to the nonpartisan group Verified Voting, which examines how new technology affects voting integrity. But some states, including Pennsylvania, rely almost entirely on touchscreen computer voting that does not produce a paper trail. The punch card ballots that resulted in the disputed hanging chads during the Florida recount in 2000 are no longer used.
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[FONT="]Trump was declared the winner in Michigan on Thursday by 10,704 votes, and the election director there insists there was no evidence of hacking. “It’s just conjecture, and I don’t think that serves anyone’s good purpose,” said Chris Thomas, the longtime director of Michigan’s Bureau of Elections.[/FONT]
A senior Donald Trump adviser is calling Hillary Clinton's decision to join a recount effort "incredible" and noting that the president-elect has not ruled out pursuing a criminal investigation into his former Democratic rival.
Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway told CNN's "State of the Nation" that Trump has not ruled out a criminal probe into Clinton's use of a private email server as secretary of state, even though Trump recently indicated he'd rather not do so.
Conway said, "He's been incredibly gracious and magnanimous to Secretary Clinton at a time when, for whatever reason, her folks are saying they will join in a recount to try to somehow undo the 70-plus electoral votes that he beat her by."
She added, "The idea that we are going to drag this out now where the president-elect has been incredibly magnanimous to the Clintons and to the Obamas is pretty incredible."
Trump took to Twitter Sunday morning to condemn the Green-Party backed recount effort as "a scam." Clinton's team joined the effort in Wisconsin after Green Party nominee Jill Stein filed paperwork formally requesting a recount.
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Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway told CNN's "State of the Nation" that Trump has not ruled out a criminal probe into Clinton's use of a private email server as secretary of state, even though Trump recently indicated he'd rather not do so.
Conway said, "He's been incredibly gracious and magnanimous to Secretary Clinton at a time when, for whatever reason, her folks are saying they will join in a recount to try to somehow undo the 70-plus electoral votes that he beat her by."
She added, "The idea that we are going to drag this out now where the president-elect has been incredibly magnanimous to the Clintons and to the Obamas is pretty incredible."
Trump took to Twitter Sunday morning to condemn the Green-Party backed recount effort as "a scam." Clinton's team joined the effort in Wisconsin after Green Party nominee Jill Stein filed paperwork formally requesting a recount.
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Is there any chance Podesta and Hillary will call for a re-vote? take into account the self respect they have - also they could easily have CNN play the agenda non stop - until half the country thought it should be 2 out 3 before we have a winner - hey, they were calling for a re-vote in the UK
