Clinton speaks ... Bush remains silent

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LONDON (AFP) - [size=-1]Former US president Bill Clinton (news - web sites) urged a coordinated effort to provide relief to the countries stricken by the tidal wave that killed tens of thousands across South Asia.

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"It is really important that somebody take the lead in this," he told BBC Radio 4's Today program.

"I think one of the problems is when everybody takes responsibility it's almost like no one's responsibility.

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MEANWHILE, BUSH VACATIONS IN TEXAS AND MAKES NO COMMENTS?


Some foreign policy specialists said Bush's actions and words both communicated a lack of urgency to an event that will loom as large in the collective memories of several countries as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks do in the United States. "When that many human beings die -- at the hands of terrorists or nature -- you've got to show that this matters to you, that you care," said Leslie Gelb, emeritus president of the Council on Foreign Relations. </NITF>
<NITF>There was an international outpouring of support after the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, and even some administration officials familiar with relief efforts said they were surprised that Bush had not appeared personally to comment on the tsunami tragedy. "It's kind of freaky," a senior career official said

 

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Some foreign policy specialists said Bush's actions and words both communicated a lack of urgency to an event that will loom as large in the collective memories of several countries as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks do in the United States. "When that many human beings die -- at the hands of terrorists or nature -- you've got to show that this matters to you, that you care," said Leslie Gelb, emeritus president of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Leslie Gelb, also known to Americans as a senior advisor to John Kerry during his campaign.

Glad they didn't mention anything like that in the article.

 

[docmercer--banned]

this is par for the course ....

we have one guy posting that basically "who gives a damn about these folks ..."

I wonder sometimes if the majority of folks in this country ever count their blessings or just assume they deserve em because they are an American?

 

[JDeuce]

Jesus Christ, Doc...

Can you PLEASE contribute to the sanity of everyone on this board and just STFU?!?

Wtf do you think W's thoughts on this issue would be? The US has already taken the lead in sending relief...just like we always do during disasters around the globe. That speaks a hell of a lot louder than holding some press conference and saying "wow, sucks to be you guys."

I dare you to name any other nation on earth who is as generous as we are when it comes to helping those in need. One thing which irritates me is people act like we're expected to help those in need, which charitable acts really shouldn't be expected. People forget we sure as hell don't have to send one nickel of help, but we choose to.


Some foreign policy specialists said Bush's actions and words both communicated a lack of urgency to an event that will loom as large in the collective memories of several countries as the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks do in the United States.

Absolutely asinine. We've already sent more money than the rest of the world combined...and more help is likely on the way. They still haven't even finished sorting through the wreckage over there, for crying out f*cking loud.

What exactly could W have done differently or more efficiently? Anyone on this board with half a brain sees you as a troll who lets no administration bashing opportunity go to waste...regardless of the circumstances.

War crying and b*tching just for the sake of bashing.

 

[xpanda]

Exactly how did the US 'lead' the aid effort for the tsunami victims? By being first to offer assistance? Nope. By donating the most? Nope. By donating the most per capita? Nope.

This statement is completely false:

We've already sent more money than the rest of the world combined

Are you aware that Australia has sent as much as the US? And their population is only 20 million. That's $1.50 a person, compared to the measly ten cents each of our nations has sent per capita.

Get off yer frickin' high horse ... the US might be the richest nation in the world, but it isn't the most generous.

 

[lander]

Bush enjoys when people die. How else can you explain his record executions (um .. ughh .. I is can a be a saved buts .. ughh .. they is can't) and his war based on fabricated (and subsequently false) premises that has resulted in tens of thousands of deaths.

Cowards like Bush, GameFarce and JDunce get off on the tragedies faced by others.

 

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jdeuce:

shove your comments .....

You lowlife scumbag .... who the hell gives a crap about Bush's "image" and what you think at this time ??

These folks are in desperate straits and Mr "Reborn" is on vacation and remains silent? Same jackass who took time out of his schedule to fly his phony ass onto a carrier and announce "Mission Accomplished" and later tried to deny the White House had anything to do with it ....

You define the word TRAITOR very well ... you and bblight have NEVER ONCE posted any concerns regarding the situation Bush has put our kids into over in Iraq ... NOT ONE TIME, why is that?

Its real easy ... you are a Neo-Con and Neo-Cons could give a crap about anything except advancing the One World Govt concept that drives Satantic Cult Member GWB

Crawl back into your hole ... you define the avg Bushie to the Max ... think ya so much better than other folks in 3rd world countries cause your phony ass was lucky to be born in this country .....

Your kind is why THIS USED TO BE A GREAT COUNTRY ....

 

[JDeuce]

By donating the most? Nope.

Uh, yup. Read this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Asia-Tsunami/US-rejects-stingy-tag-and-praises-Australia/2004/12/29/1103996616123.html

As the US Secretary of State, Colin Powell, answered the critics, the Bush Administration announced it would more than double its aid package to $US35million ($45million) and indicated more was on the way.

Read that last segment again, then just wait till this whole thing is over. We were the first to send any significant amount of money, and we'll end up having sent the most...just like always. The Aussies are cool, but John Howard didn't say anything about sending more jack.

Sorry, XP...the USA leads the world every year in charitable contributions (from both public and private funding). If you want me to dig up a link, lemme know. Thats why I said we're the most generous...and we are.

It's the idiots like this who annoy the hell out of me:

United Nations humanitarian aid chief, Jan Egeland of Norway, said "rich countries" were stingy when it came to aid

Classic liberalism...being very generous with other people's money. This is like giving a homeless guy a sandwich, and he says "you know, that was really nice...but how about a car instead?"

Again, I'd like to remind this schmuck (and fools like Doc Mullah) that we are in no way obligated to help anyone. We're doing this out of our own good will.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/27/bush.disaster.ap/

There you go, Doc. He contacted them personally instead of holding some kind of half-hearted press conference. Now go ahead...tell me what W could/should have done differently that would have made any difference at all...?

 

[PatPatriot]

I heard last nite on the tube that France has donated a grand total of a 130K.
Whats up with those cheap cocksuckers?...After the world pulled them out of the fire twice during 2 world wars... Oh thats right they are doing their part by feeding and the breeding of Islamofacist.

Hmmm I wonder if Clinton donated the tax money he said he didn't need from Bushes tax cuts?

Fxckin France anyways will probably send em surf boards

 

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JDeuce:

Question for ya that you refuse to answer:

I have NEVER SEEN ONE POST by yourself in regards to any concerns you have over the botched up military operation in Iraq that is costing this country thousands of our best young soliders ... why is that?

Could it be simply you are a brainwashed Bushie? The avg Bushie almost gets off on the death toll in Iraq because "Junior is kicking some ass!" ...

Again, answer a question for one and all ... you and bblight seem to be quick to defend Bush in EVERY area but when kids are dying in a War that the Majority in this country now realize is a Mistake, you get very quiet and jump on those who have the guts to question what the hell is going on ...

You are a Traitor to the brave young men and women dying in a war that you take great pride in ...

Go sell your BS Patriotism to someone dense enough to buy it ..

 

[JDeuce]

I have NEVER SEEN ONE POST by yourself in regards to any concerns you have over the botched up military operation in Iraq that is costing this country thousands of our best young soliders ... why is that?

Concerns? I'm concerned that our military may not be getting everything they need, but I also realize that you can only go to war with what you have. I'm concerned that your hero from the previous administration cut the army from 18 divisions down to 8, but also realize that a draft still will not be necessary despite that. I'm concerned that fools in the media love to blame this president for every single tactical mistake that might occur without having done the same for past presidents, but I also realize they have their own agenda

But mostly, I'm concerned that morons like yourself who have no idea about war operations are pontificating about it to others. I'm also a realist, and understand that this war was a necessary step for the security of our country (as well as helping the overall middle east peace process).

Now, I'd like you to answer your same question, except a bit differently:


Question for ya that you refuse to answer:

I have NEVER SEEN ONE POST by yourself in regards to any praise for this current Bush adminitration even when it has been warranted and deserved ... why is that?

Could it be simply you are a brainwashed leftist idiot? The avg leftie almost gets off on the death toll in Iraq because "It makes Junior's administration look bad!" ...

Again, answer a question for one and all ... you and eek seem to be quick to bash Bush in EVERY area but when kids are dying in a War (at historically low rates) that the Majority in this country supported as evidenced by Bush's re-election, you get very quiet and jump on those who have the guts to support what the hell is going on ...

You are a Traitor to the brave young men and women dying in a war that you take great ignorance in bashing ...

Go sell your BS idiotism to someone dense enough to buy it ..

 

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Jdeuce:

What a jackass posting: "I'm concerned that morons like yourself who have no idea about war operations are pontificating about it to others."

Really?? The BIGGEST MORON is the ******* Commander in Chief who blew off advice from everyone in the Military, as well as his own father, and rushed into war without a game plan or exit strategy ...

Nice try, Ike .. typical Bushie would wants to blame everyone else for Bush's military blunder

 

[bblight]

JDeuce - please note that Doc Mullah isn't interested in facts or opinions! He only wants to rant and rave about the Bush administartion not doing what he thinks it should - and even they did do something right, he'd still bad mouth them.

This guy is a single agenda fringe lunatic - his agenda is to go against everything that the Bush administration does - whether good or bad, right or wrong!

Doc Mullah attacks everyone who disagree's with him - he doesn't want debate - he wants a platform to spread his Nazi like hatred for the Bush Administration.

 

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Its hard to bring logic and facts to the plate when discussing things with Jdeuce / Bblight ...

fellas, combined IQ for you 2 brilliant folks is 55??

I've never met 2 fellas that define what "DEAD ABOVE THE SHOULDER" truely means ...

Blight & JDeuce ... yep, the other famous pair of "Moe & Curly" comes to mind real quick

Fellas, do something different in 2005 ... learn to read so you can think on your own and not have to rely on Limbaugh for advice ... of course, for Jdeuce that would involve taking courses to upgrade his 2nd grade reading level ...

 

[bblight]

Doc Mullah, by your blather, I guess one is supposed to assume that you have something going on in that great computer you call a mind - the problem is that you only have a 128 Kb microprocessor backing up your 500 watt speakers.

I won't insult the stupid by calling you dumb - but i don't think that the rude and boorish will care if I say that you're ignorant!

We all appreciate the fact that yo've taken in 8 dogs and made twenty thousand dollars in donations - yup, we all appreciate it!

 

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bblight:

The difference between my mind and the mind of bblight Couulter and Jdeuce Hannity ... my mind is free to read and make my own opinion ... you 2 simpletons are like little scared rabbits who cant think on their own

Again, combined IQ must be between 50-70???

Keep it up, bblight Coulter ... I learn so much everytime you post your words of wisdom!!

 

[kayaman+]

"I heard last nite on the tube that France has donated a grand total of a 130K.
Whats up with those cheap cocksuckers?...After the world pulled them out of the fire twice during 2 world wars... Oh thats right they are doing their part by feeding and the breeding of Islamofacist.

Hmmm I wonder if Clinton donated the tax money he said he didn't need from Bushes tax cuts?

Fxckin France anyways will probably send em surf boards"

The French do business with saddam and they are evil scum of the earth, but cheney's oil company does business with saddam (which dicky lied about) yet he perfectly qualified to puppeteer georgie.