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lots of buzz on this movie. I think over. Am I way off base? how many screens will it be in??

<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width=650 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=wht-title vAlign=top width="14%" bgColor=#000066>Fri 6/3</TD><TD class=wht-title bgColor=#000066 colSpan=4>Cindarella Man opening weekend gross:


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=wht-title align=middle bgColor=#999999 colSpan=5>Maximum Wager: 200.00 USD</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk>12:00 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>103 Over</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>26 million -120</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio value=riskType name=radio00>Risk <INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=toWinType name=radio00>To Win</TD><TD width=77></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD></TD><TD class=main_body_blk>104 Under</TD><TD class=main_body_blk>26 million +104</TD><TD class=main_body_blk width=120><INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=riskType name=radio01>Risk <INPUT type=radio value=toWinType name=radio01>To Win</TD><TD width=77></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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WSex has over 23.5 -150
 
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Thats a lot of money for that type of movie (non Spiderman/Starwars type).




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26 sure seems high.....especially after pretty much everyone in "that audience" probably just saw the latest Star Wars.
 
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'Cinderella Man' battles in shadow of 'Seabiscuit'



Bill Muller
The Arizona Republic
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[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]It's always nice when Hollywood catches up on history, and it's evident that studios have discovered something called the Great Depression.

The details are a bit fuzzy, but apparently everyone was really poor (some people even lived in shacks) and there were lines around the block - not for Starbucks but for bread.

Even more importantly, there was this sports hero who rose from the ashes of the Depression to take the country by storm and lift the spirits of a downtrodden populace . . . oh, you saw Seabiscuit already?<!-- BOXAD TABLE --> [/font]
[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Well, that's OK, because there was this other sports hero who rose from the ashes of the Depression to take the country by storm. But instead of four legs, he had two. And he was a boxer, not a racehorse.

The question is, of course, how many people are willing to see another underdog-makes-good story, namely Cinderella Man, which replaces the horse with boxer Jim Braddock (Russell Crowe). His rags-to-riches story inspired writer Damon Runyon to give Braddock his fairy-tale nickname.

No slight to director Ron Howard, who does a fine job re-creating the era, but Cinderella Man is a victim of context. It's yet another historical movie in which we're expected to maintain suspense even though the outcome is known.

Of course, many people don't know what really happened, because Braddock's career, while inspirational, was eclipsed by the rise of Joe Louis as heavyweight champ. Braddock is much like James Buchanan, dimly recalled as the "president before Lincoln."

Howard, as he did with Apollo 13, is depending on the failure of American schools to teach history. It's an absolute certainty that some people sat through Apollo 13 and thought it was a reasonable possibility that the spacecraft would burn up in re-entry. Never mind that the movie was based on astronaut Jim Lovell's book, so it was a pretty good guess that he couldn't have written it if he had died.

As a sports movie, Cinderella Man is more Rocky than Million Dollar Baby. Howard (A Beautiful Mind, The Missing) is too much of a glass-half-full guy to have it any other way. His boxing scenes are staged with sufficient skill, although fans of Raging Bull might notice similarities to the 1980 Martin Scorsese film.

I'm guessing that Cinderella Man will be a crowd-pleaser, mainly because Crowe gives another solid performance, and Paul Giamatti (Sideways, American Splendor) adds to his shining reputation as a top character actor by playing Braddock's lippy manager, Joe Gould.

Like him or not, Crowe is one of the few top actors who doesn't play himself in every film. He adjusts his persona to fit the role, whether it's Braddock, the sea captain in Master and Commander, the mathematician in A Beautiful Mind or the informer in The Insider.

Giamatti, with his small stature and hangdog look, was born to play second bananas, but his commitment to the task elevates Cinderella Man. When he and Crowe are on-screen together, the movie crackles. In contrast, it drops a level whenever Renée Zellweger (as Braddock's wife) appears - in part because her character is given little depth in the script.

It's hard to gauge whether anyone younger than 40 will want to see Cinderella Man. Although the movie offers the uplift of an underdog trying to beat the odds, the story might be too dusty to appeal to younger audiences.

Braddock is probably worth a movie. He was a top boxer in the '20s, but by the time the Depression hit, age and an injury to his dominant right hand had left him barely able to fight. He lost his boxing license and ended up working on the docks to support his wife and three children.

Eventually, Braddock went on relief to keep his family together. He was given a second chance when a boxer dropped out of a fight, and Gould called Braddock to fill in with no time to train. Work on the docks had developed Braddock's once ineffective left hand, and he fought with a new tenacity, spurred by visions of his hungry kids.

It's not worth further detailing the plot, because Cinderella Man is more enjoyable if you don't know what happens at the end. And although it's diverting, it fades away quickly because it seems so familiar.

You can't find fault with Howard's methods - and some of the surreal dreamlike sequences work well - but the story chooses the main road over the back alley.

Given the devastating punch of Million Dollar Baby and the all-too-recent memory of Seabiscuit, Cinderella Man is likely to stay down for the count.



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Can someone give me a site that shows the how much a movie earned in an opening weekend? Btw Ali was a good boxing movie which propably won't be beat by Cindaralla Man.. so i just want to see how much it got.
 
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Total domestic box office for Ali

<TABLE class=xl281973 style="TABLE-LAYOUT: fixed; WIDTH: 241pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=321 border=0 x:str><TBODY><TR class=xl391973 style="HEIGHT: 12pt" height=16><TD class=xl331973 style="HEIGHT: 12pt" align=right height=16 x:fmla="=A16+1" x:num="6"> </TD><TD class=xl331973>Ali</TD><TD class=xl331973 align=right x:num="2001">2001 </TD><TD class=xl341973 align=right x:num="58200000">$58,200,000 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



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Cinderella Man

I'm seeing it first thing Friday and Sisterhood of Traveling Pants is the only other opening so I would go Over on it. Best buzz of the year for any movie and it's also PG-13. Time for a good drama after the sci-fi and comedies that are out.

That review by Bill Muller of the Arizona Republic is irrelevant and he rarely has anything good to say about many films his limited audience reads.
 
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Yeah the over is the right bet.
 

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WSEX has it Over at -180 now.
 

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<TABLE class=contentArea cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=730 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left rowSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>Ron Howard believes in America. His faith in the whole package of democratic ideals and family values smooths out the wrinkles in films (the Oscar-winning A Beautiful Mind, the immigrant saga Far and Away) that would be better off with their creases unpressed. Howard is fifty-one, but the image of the freckle-faced kid he was on TV as Opie and Richie still sticks to him as a gift and a curse. Darkness (Backdraft, The Missing) does not become him. His flair for comedy (Splash, Night Shift) can turn cornball (Parenthood) or crass (How the Grinch Stole Christmas). Yet at those times when Howard takes on a tough subject -- old age (Cocoon), a failed space mission (Apollo 13) -- and doesn't bland out, he can do wonders. This is one of those times. Not only is Cinderella Man Howard's best movie, it is also his most personal and deeply felt. The true story of James J. Braddock, played with blazing brilliance by Russell Crowe, hits Howard where he lives. Irishman Braddock was a washed-up boxer from New Jersey who could barely support his wife and three kids during the Depression. But the powerful left hand he developed by working on the Hoboken waterfront helped him score a comeback that put the nation in his corner and prompted legendary sportswriter Damon Runyon to dub this two-legged pugilistic Seabiscuit the Cinderella Man.

The expertly crafted script by Cliff Hollingsworth and Akiva Goldsman takes its lead from a famous line in John Ford's 1962 western The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance: "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Howard gives the film the resonant power of myth. And Wynn Thomas' production design, lit with a poet's eye by camera whiz Salvatore Totino, evokes the period of bread lines with rare artistry.

Of course, a film with no gray on its palette can lack human dimension. Enter a cast of miracle workers. Crowe is jaw-droppingly good, a movie star with a true actor's subtlety and grace. He plays Braddock not as a gladiator but as a family man who boxes to feed his wife and kids. But he'd rather face an opponent's deadly blow than poverty: "At least I can see who I'm fighting," he says. Crowe finds the sadness in Braddock when he must rely on government assistance to support his family. But he also reveals a rugged resilience. Braddock is a simple man with complicated emotions, and Crowe lets us inside his secret heart.

As Joe Gould, Braddock's can-do manager and trainer, Paul Giamatti is a dynamite package of brash humor and scrappy tenderness. He delivers a tour de force. Bet on this consummate pro (Sideways, American Splendor) to win the Oscar race for Best Supporting Actor.

Renee Zellweger brings backbone to Mae, the long-suffering Mrs. Braddock. She shows that sexual attraction is a major bond in their marriage, providing welcome heat and heart in her scenes with Crowe. Mae has one rule: She will not watch her husband take hits in the ring.

It's hard to blame her. The fight scenes may lack the surreal grandeur of Raging Bull and the tragic underpinnings of Million Dollar Baby, but Howard -- working with editors Mike Hill and Dan Hanley -- creates fireworks in the ring, using real boxers such as Art Binkowski, Troy Amos-Ross and Mark Simmons to take on Crowe.

All of which leads to the main event. Time: June 13th, 1935. Place: New York's Madison Square Garden. It's Braddock against playboy, actor and clown Max Baer (Craig Bierko), the heavyweight champ who brags about having killed two opponents by dislocating their brains. Baer is the villain of the piece, but the remarkable Bierko adds a vulnerability not in the script. It's a seductive and scary performance that should put this versatile actor -- he sang his way to a Tony nod in Broadway's The Music Man -- on the movie map.

Watching Baer and Braddock go a punishing fifteen rounds ends Cinderella Man on a note of riveting suspense. But the film stays focused on the human drama. It's the classic American tale of the family man triumphant, and Howard makes sure that it hits you right in the heart.

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they are throwing a lot of ad money at this picture, but I would be surprised if it does more than 20 million.

teenagers are what drives box office and i don't think they will rush to see this one.

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AC said:
they are throwing a lot of ad money at this picture, but I would be surprised if it does more than 20 million.

teenagers are what drives box office and i don't think they will rush to see this one.

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I just remmebered that Lords of Dogtown opens tomorrow night also. So most of the teens are going to see that movie. Also the chicks will see the Traveling Pants crap movie and the old folks are going to see Cindarella man. It's going to be close to 26 mil.. prolly in the lower mid.
 

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Not a big weekend for teens at the movies with Proms and Graduation parties in high gear.
 

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I saw Cinderella Man this afternoon and it was all I heard it should be. Really tugged at the heart with decent boxing scenes and reflected the desperation that the Depression era brought to many of our parents and grand parents.Great movie and Great performances for Crowe, Zellwegger and Giamatti.
 

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The UNDER wins for the Cinderella Man gross:



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another sucker bet from Pinnacle.

they always try to decieve with their lines and kill most bettors
 

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now maybe we can move on to more important things in life like the pinny prop

will it snow on Christmas Day :scared2:
 

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