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In Gulf, Cheney warns Iran of U.S. resolve

By David E. Sanger

Friday, May 11, 2007



BRUSSELS: Vice President Dick Cheney used the deck of an American aircraft carrier just 240 kilometers off Iran's coast as the backdrop Friday to warn the country that the United States was prepared to use its naval power to keep Tehran from disrupting oil routes or "gaining nuclear weapons and dominating this region."

Little of what Cheney said in the cavernous hangar bay of the aircraft carrier John C. Stennis, one of two carriers whose strike groups are now in the Gulf, was new. Each individual line had, in some form, been said before, at various points in the four-year-long nuclear standoff with Iran, and during the increasingly tense arguments over whether Iran is aiding the insurgents in Iraq.

But Cheney stitched all of those warnings together, and the symbolism of sending the administration's most famous hawk to deliver the speech so close to Iran's coast was unmistakable.

It also came just a week after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice talked briefly and inconclusively with Iran's foreign minister, a step toward re-engagement with Iran that some in the administration have opposed.
Cheney's sharp warnings appeared to be part of a two-track administration campaign to push back at Iran, while leaving the door open to negotiations. It was almost exactly a year ago that the United States offered to negotiate with Iran as long as it first agreed to halt enriching uranium, a decision in which Cheney, participants said, was not a major player.

Similarly, the speech Friday was not circulated broadly in the government before it was delivered, a senior American diplomat said.

"He kind of runs by his own rules," the official said.

When President George W. Bush ordered the two carriers into the Gulf late last year, senior administration officials said it was part of an effort to gain some negotiating leverage over the Iranians. At about the same time, American military personnel began capturing some Iranians in Iraq, and some of them are still held there.

American officials have also been pressing European banks and companies to avoid doing business with Tehran, in an effort to make it more difficult for the country to recycle its oil profits.

Oil seemed to be on Cheney's mind Friday, when he told an audience of 3,500 to 4,000 American service members on the Stennis that Iran would not be permitted to choke off oil shipments through the waters of the region.

"With two carrier strike groups in the Gulf, we're sending clear messages to friends and adversaries alike," he said. "We'll keep the sea lanes open. We'll stand with our friends in opposing extremism and strategic threats. We'll disrupt attacks on our own forces. We'll continue bringing relief to those who suffer, and delivering justice to the enemies of freedom. And we'll stand with others to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons and dominating this region."

Some experts on Iran have questioned whether the threats that administration officials occasionally deliver to Iran aid or undercut the diplomacy with the country.

"The problem with the two-track policy is that the first track - coercion, sanctions, naval deployments - can undercut the results on the second track," said Ray Takeyh, an Iran scholar at the Council of Foreign Relations and the author of "Hidden Iran: Paradox and Power in the Islamic Republic."
"There are some in Tehran who will look at Cheney on that carrier and say that everything Rice is offering is not real. What's real, to their mind, are the coercive policies Cheney is describing. This is a case where we are trying to get through negotiations what, so far, we couldn't get through coercion."

The symbols of coercion were part of the backdrop on the Stennis: Cheney spoke in front of five F-18 Super Hornet warplanes.

Cheney also repeated his arguments about the danger of early withdrawal from Iraq.

The United States remains at odds with Iran over its uranium-enrichment program, which Iran says is for peaceful nuclear energy, but which America and its Western allies say is intended instead to produce atomic weapons.
Administration officials have also said that weapons are being smuggled into Iraq from Iran and that insurgents may be getting training in bomb-making and bomb-placing techniques in Iran. The Iranian government denies sponsoring or encouraging terrorism.
 
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Similarly, the speech Friday was not circulated broadly in the government before it was delivered, a senior American diplomat said.

"He kind of runs by his own rules
," the official said.



:lolBIG:, DUH!

The Dickwad behind the curtain. Nothing like having a proxy president do the good old boy routine fer ya while your approval ratings hit the bottom of the shitter, and you hide in the closet most of your term.

Joe, I don't really object to the stern warnings to Iran, but at least have someone with some FUCKING credibility deliver the goddamn thing.

Okie Doke?

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How bout this guy...

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Hang in there, Cuss. Tough times never last, but tough people do.

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SOME of America’s most senior military commanders are prepared to resign if the White House orders a military strike against Iran, according to highly placed defence and intelligence sources.

Tension in the Gulf region has raised fears that an attack on Iran is becoming increasingly likely before President George Bush leaves office. The Sunday Times has learnt that up to five generals and admirals are willing to resign rather than approve what they consider would be a reckless attack.

“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” a source with close ties to British intelligence said. “There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible.”

A generals’ revolt on such a scale would be unprecedented. “American generals usually stay and fight until they get fired,” said a Pentagon source. Robert Gates, the defence secretary, has repeatedly warned against striking Iran and is believed to represent the view of his senior commanders.


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Is Cheney running this fiasco called the Iraq war? you bet he is. But the generals will know hes crazy if he gives the order.
 

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Oil seemed to be on Cheney's mind Friday, when he told an audience of 3,500 to 4,000 American service members on the Stennis that Iran would not be permitted to choke off oil shipments through the waters of the region.

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Does that say it all or what?


What a POS.
 

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Omg too funny. So Fred Thompson is the dude from Law and Order.

Was Big Bird too busy?


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2. Pulse present. This test should be conducted by a registered nurse. We learned that lesson the hard way. See also: Presidential elections 2000 and 2004.

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Omg too funny. So Fred Thompson is the dude from Law and Order.

Was Big Bird too busy?

Qualifications to be president of the US, by Joe The Stock Trader:

1. Visible signs of breathing. i.e. chest moves up and down in rythmic motion, placing mirror under nose results in 'fogging up'.

2. Pulse present. This test should be conducted by a registered nurse. We learned that lesson the hard way. See also: Presidential elections 2000 and 2004.

3. Active brain waves. Optional.

4. Drama major in college. Economics, business or perhaps international history might be more appropriate, but actors tend to have an easier time selling ice to eskimos.

5. Small penis. This makes preparing for war easier. Big guns, big tanks, big weapons make for an easy transition from big trucks, big tires, big gun racks.

Awww....you're such a cute little copywriter...

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- Chairman of the Government Affairs (now called the Homeland Security and Government Affairs) Committee 1997-2001
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Mikey for President

I just happened to be at the Orange County Choppers store/factory/American Chopper set the other day. Bought this t-shirt. Figure he can't be any worse. Go Mikey!
 

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Just the Johhny Come Lately DA on Law and Order. The DA before him was there much longer and defined the role of cynical politico DA much better than Fred. Still Thompson would be better Prez than those 10 monkees that the GOP is throwing out there now except for Paul who has no chance.
 

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In Gulf, Cheney warns Iran of U.S. resolve

By David E. Sanger

Friday, May 11, 2007



BRUSSELS: Vice President Dick Cheney used the deck of an American aircraft carrier just 240 kilometers off Iran's coast as the backdrop Friday to warn the country that the United States was prepared to use its naval power to keep Tehran from disrupting oil routes or "gaining nuclear weapons and dominating this region."

Little of what Cheney said in the cavernous hangar bay of the aircraft carrier John C. Stennis, one of two carriers whose strike groups are now in the Gulf, was new. Each individual line had, in some form, been said before, at various points in the four-year-long nuclear standoff with Iran, and during the increasingly tense arguments over whether Iran is aiding the insurgents in Iraq.

But Cheney stitched all of those warnings together, and the symbolism of sending the administration's most famous hawk to deliver the speech so close to Iran's coast was unmistakable.

It also came just a week after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice talked briefly and inconclusively with Iran's foreign minister, a step toward re-engagement with Iran that some in the administration have opposed.
Cheney's sharp warnings appeared to be part of a two-track administration campaign to push back at Iran, while leaving the door open to negotiations. It was almost exactly a year ago that the United States offered to negotiate with Iran as long as it first agreed to halt enriching uranium, a decision in which Cheney, participants said, was not a major player.

Similarly, the speech Friday was not circulated broadly in the government before it was delivered, a senior American diplomat said.

"He kind of runs by his own rules," the official said.

When President George W. Bush ordered the two carriers into the Gulf late last year, senior administration officials said it was part of an effort to gain some negotiating leverage over the Iranians. At about the same time, American military personnel began capturing some Iranians in Iraq, and some of them are still held there.

American officials have also been pressing European banks and companies to avoid doing business with Tehran, in an effort to make it more difficult for the country to recycle its oil profits.

Oil seemed to be on Cheney's mind Friday, when he told an audience of 3,500 to 4,000 American service members on the Stennis that Iran would not be permitted to choke off oil shipments through the waters of the region.

"With two carrier strike groups in the Gulf, we're sending clear messages to friends and adversaries alike," he said. "We'll keep the sea lanes open. We'll stand with our friends in opposing extremism and strategic threats. We'll disrupt attacks on our own forces. We'll continue bringing relief to those who suffer, and delivering justice to the enemies of freedom. And we'll stand with others to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons and dominating this region."

Some experts on Iran have questioned whether the threats that administration officials occasionally deliver to Iran aid or undercut the diplomacy with the country.

"The problem with the two-track policy is that the first track - coercion, sanctions, naval deployments - can undercut the results on the second track," said Ray Takeyh, an Iran scholar at the Council of Foreign Relations and the author of "Hidden Iran: Paradox and Power in the Islamic Republic."
"There are some in Tehran who will look at Cheney on that carrier and say that everything Rice is offering is not real. What's real, to their mind, are the coercive policies Cheney is describing. This is a case where we are trying to get through negotiations what, so far, we couldn't get through coercion."

The symbols of coercion were part of the backdrop on the Stennis: Cheney spoke in front of five F-18 Super Hornet warplanes.

Cheney also repeated his arguments about the danger of early withdrawal from Iraq.

The United States remains at odds with Iran over its uranium-enrichment program, which Iran says is for peaceful nuclear energy, but which America and its Western allies say is intended instead to produce atomic weapons.
Administration officials have also said that weapons are being smuggled into Iraq from Iran and that insurgents may be getting training in bomb-making and bomb-placing techniques in Iran. The Iranian government denies sponsoring or encouraging terrorism.

GI Joe,

The Vice Fuhrer wrote the book on how to avoid war and military service w/ his 5 draft deferments but when it comes to sacrificing others, it is another story. A true American Coward! Thank god only the minority of the American people are still buying into his bogus campaign of intimidation and scare tactics. Iran is the new Saddam.

SF,

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Diane Weist was the DA between Steven Hill and Fred T.

Used to have kind of a crush on her back in the 80s when she was playing in Woody Allen movies, but she got a little too matronly for me by the time she hit Law&Order.
 

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DICK's pretty bold talker as long as he has a ready list of American boys and girls to fill up his body bags.

Good news is we've got less than 20 months remaining of his input and then he'll be put out to pasture with the other Old Goats.
 

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