CBS News Reports...Obama is an unorganized smelly SLOB

[Mistermj]

Biden must have had another gaffe when he said Bambi was a clean negro.

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The McCain campaign plane is better than Obama's, which is cramped, uncomfortable and smells terrible most of the time. Somehow the McCain folks manage to keep their charter clean, even where the press is seated.
www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/07/politics/fromtheroad/entry4507703.shtml

 

[cussin'it]

LOL jokey C Jr.

But they gotz the muny and the electoral votes.

End of story.

 

[Mistermj]

LOL jokey C Jr.

But they gotz the muny and the electoral votes.

End of story.

Zogby has this as a dead heat today.

Obama should be in a huge lead.

McCain only needs to be close...the Bradley effect is good for 5-10% of the vote.

Thats a fact jack...this aint over and the pundits have no way of knowing how the Bradley effect shakes out.

There is no precedent for this election...polls and experts don't matter.

Use some logic bro...

 

[Risk44]

as seen earlier:

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

 

[barman]

Good to see you back in the house FauxJoe

Obama Is a Big Bad Meanie - Thread #391

 

[barman]

Fun Fact - Only other reference I've seen to "the Bradley Effect" during this political season is during quick visits across the street where Markie is serving out his RxBan sentence

d1g1t

 

[RollTide+]

The Bradley Effect is no longer a factor

Everyone knows about the dreaded Bradley Effect: the phenomenon that leaves white voters loath to tell pollsters they won't vote for a black candidate. There's been a lot of fretting about this recently -- fretting, I find, that correlates with age: the older you are, the more likely you are to believe the Bradley Effect will turn up in this election. Here are some reasons Democrats needn't be overly worried, in ascending order of importance:

1. The event that gave the BE its name -- the 1982 California gubernatorial election, when Tom Bradley, the black mayor of Los Angeles, polled well and then lost resoundingly -- took place 26 years ago. Don't you think the world has changed a little bit since then, especially regarding tolerance? Consider a prejudice once thought to be even more intense than racial prejudice: If we've made even a quarter of the progress in racial matters that we have in issues regarding sexuality, that alone turns the Bradley Effect on its ear.

2. There are 60 million Americans of voting age who hadn't yet reached the age of eight in 1982. Don't you think their racial attitudes are different from the people who have disappeared from the voting roles in that time -- namely, their dead grandparents?

3. Tennessee, 2006: The Democratic candidate for the Senate was a black man, Harold Ford. Tennessee hadn't elected a Democrat to the Senate since 1990. George Bush carried the state in 2004 by a 14 point margin. Republicans ran an ad, right before Election Day, suggesting that Ford had a taste for white women. In this very red state, with a black population of only 17%, Ford lost by just 3 percentage points. More to the point, he did better in the election than in the pre-election polling.

4. One recent, ill-conceived analysis suggests that 6% of people polled will not admit that they will not vote for a black man. Ask yourself: even if this were accurate, how many of them would be likely to vote for a liberal Democrat anyway? How many of them live in states that McCain is going to carry no matter what, like Texas or Mississippi? How many live in states that Obama is going to carry no matter what, like New York or California?

5. Finally, and most importantly, isn't there another shoe to drop on this issue -- namely, the number of people who will vote for Obama because he's black? I'm not talking about white voters who think it's time for a black president, or who want to feel good about their own racial attitudes -- those are Democratic voters in any case. I'm talking about the increased turnout among black voters. In recent elections, 51% of registered blacks voters showed up at the polls. Do you think that number will be up 10%? 20%? More? So do I. And that's just registered black voters. Registration of new black voters in states like Virginia and North Carolina has been one of the Obama organization's most notable accomplishments.

As a result, I'm looking for the debut of the Obama Effect -- a level of increased participation among black voters that may change the electoral map for years to come.

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[Preussen]

Mistermj - this is the best you can do after returning from a one-month ban?

So McCain might have a tidier airplane than Obama (if what Reynolds writes is true). So what? Do you honestly believe this will have any impact on the election?
Oh, btw, calling a person an "unorganised smelly slob" just because a journalist reports that his campaign is more hectic and seems improvisational and his campaign plane smells constitutes slander, don't you think?

It's not much fun grasping at straws, is it?

 

[BetIt]

McCain only needs to be close...the Bradley effect is good for 5-10% of the vote.

Thats a fact jack...this aint over and the pundits have no way of knowing how the Bradley effect shakes out.

There is no precedent for this election...polls and experts don't matter.

Use some logic bro...

Other than your pure hypocrisy of saying there is no precedent...noone knows what's going to happen.... than setting standards of what the Bradley effect will be...............it's a convenient position.

I'll tell you what

Give me Obama +7.5 on whatever the Real Clear Politics average is on election eve......you can name the price.

 

[nimue77]

Zogby has this as a dead heat today.

Obama should be in a huge lead.

McCain only needs to be close...the Bradley effect is good for 5-10% of the vote.

Thats a fact jack...this aint over and the pundits have no way of knowing how the Bradley effect shakes out.

There is no precedent for this election...polls and experts don't matter.

Use some logic bro...

We can assume you have plenty of GOP or you're about to nail +430 then right?

Democrat


-470 $2,350

-630 $100


-640 $3,200
23
Republican


+430 $3,523

+420 $2,889


+400 $3,636

 

[steaktartar]

So you are loading up on aout +430?

Democrat


-470 $2,350

-630 $100


-640 $3,200
23
Republican


+430 $3,523

+420 $2,889


+400 $3,636

he has no money like Docco...two kids shooting their mouths off is all

 

[Mistermj]

Other than your pure hypocrisy of saying there is no precedent...noone knows what's going to happen.... than setting standards of what the Bradley effect will be...............it's a convenient position.

I'll tell you what

Give me Obama +7.5 on whatever the Real Clear Politics average is on election eve......you can name the price.

Kerry - 355, Bush +295 @ 5dimes!

LMAO...nuff said.

Game , set , match! :aktion033

 

[BetIt]

So thanks for answering my question............

You do realize that line shift and this -355 was based on EXIT polling.

Exit polling sucks for the most part.

What is game/set/match?

You said 5-10% pts off b/c of Bradley effect.

Give me Obama +7.5....heck even +5

 

[HiloBoy]

mr mj it is over. mccain has always been a loser.

 

[Mistermj]

mr mj it is over. mccain has always been a loser.

Obama should have a 20 point lead...but its a deadheat.

That means Obama can't close the deal with voters...that means the Bradley effect is in effect.

Obama over polls...that was already proven in the primaries.

You can argue my points...but they are all based on fact.

McCain has a better chance than is being reported...thats all I ever said.

Stay tuned.

 

[HiloBoy]

mccain is as lost in the debate walking around like he lost something as he was when he wanted to be the boxing czar. he could not even handle don king.

 

[BetIt]

Obama should have a 20 point lead...but its a deadheat.

How is it a deadheat?
You don't think Obama has an advantage right now?
What are you basising the 20 pt lead on?

Obama over polls...that was already proven in the primaries.

Happened in a few states...primary polling is pretty fluid.

You can argue my points...but they are all based on fact.

Show me the facts where it says it's a dead heat
Show me the facts where it says Obama should have a 20 pt lead

McCain has a better chance than is being reported...thats all I ever said.

Stay tuned.

I would actually agree he still has a shot......but that isn't what you've ever said. You've said, we were suckered punch....obama should be ahead by 20...blah blah blah

 

[Mistermj]

mccain is as lost in the debate walking around like he lost something as he was when he wanted to be the boxing czar. he could not even handle don king.

I can't argue with that....I've made it clear I will have to hold my nose to vote McCain.

But my point remains...

Why isn't Obama in a 20 point lead...with the incumbent party''s economic news ect...

And its still a dead heat?

There is only one answer....Obama can't close the deal.

Historically the leader will have some more erosion in the last two weeks.

This thing is tied...and with the Bradley effect...Obama might have to be ahead by 5-8% to stay tied.

This will be a wild finish...bank on it.

 

[Mistermj]

How is it a deadheat?
You don't think Obama has an advantage right now?
What are you basising the 20 pt lead on?



Happened in a few states...primary polling is pretty fluid.



Show me the facts where it says it's a dead heat
Show me the facts where it says Obama should have a 20 pt lead



I would actually agree he still has a shot......but that isn't what you've ever said. You've said, we were suckered punch....obama should be ahead by 20...blah blah blah

Ask an expert...

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Pollster: Don’t believe the Dem hype

By Joe Dwinell & Jessica Fargen | Wednesday, October 8, | 2008 Pres. Campaign 2008

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1124117

The presidential race is still too close to call and could come down to the very last weekend before voters decide if they like or distrust Barack Obama, a national pollster predicts.

“I don’t think Obama has closed the deal yet,” pollster John Zogby told the Herald yesterday.

Zogby’s latest poll, released yesterday in conjunction with C-Span and Reuters, shows Obama and John McCain in a statistical dead heat, with the Illinois Democrat up 48-45 percent.

Zogby said the race mirrors the 1980 election, when voters didn’t embrace Ronald Reagan over then-President Jimmy Carter until just days before the election.

“The Sunday before the election the dam burst,” Zogby said of the 1980 tilt. “That’s when voters determined they were comfortable with Reagan.”

Now voters are wrestling with two senators with opposite resumes - Obama, at 47, the unknown, and the established 72-year-old McCain.

Zogby said he’s still hearing from moderates and non-partisan voters - what he calls “the big middle” - who are still shopping for a candidate.

“It still can break one way or the other,” Zogby says.

The Numbers

The three-day survey polled 1,220 likely voters - about 400 people a day. Zogby will continuously poll right up until the November election.

The latest poll numbers may reflect the bump that McCain received after his running mate, Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin sparred with Obama’s running mate, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden during the first and only vice presidential debate last week.

The poll shows that the two White House contenders have no problem attracting support from their own parties.

Obama is winning 84 percent of the Democratic Party support and McCain has 85 percent of the GOP support, but Obama has the edge among sought-after Independent voters.

He leads McCain among independents, 48 percent to 39 percent, according to the poll.

Obama also has support from a slightly higher percent of conservative voters than McCain gets from liberal voters, but the advantage is small, according to the poll.

Pollsters surveyed 1,220 likely voters and asked approximately 39 questions. The margin of error is plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.

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[BetIt]

HAHA


One survey (out of dozens)...disregard all others...disregard battleground polls that have come out.

Go back to sipping the kool aid.


You're right...dead heat.

No one has the advantage at all.

McCain isn't defending more territory or getting his ass handed to him in spending.

Toss up....someone flip a coin.