Can You believe This? Judge Orders No More Feeding Tube?

[Journeyman]

Just doesn't seem right to me..yes the woman is basically a vegtable, but she's not harming anyone, how do you tell this woman's family this? Screw the husband, he's moved on...fvcking incredible!

Who knows what her wish was...this is sickening, the world is just nuts.

 

[Fidel]

The woman's not basically a vegetable, she is a vegetable. She told her husband and others that if she ever was a vegetable she would like to go peacefully. It's called granting the woman her wish.

What is sick is that the cable media is so preocupied with one dying woman and hardly a word about how we as a country massacre thousands, yes thousands of innocent Iraqi's and thousands, yes thousands of American troops all for Georgey, Rumsy and Cheney's war. Thats reality, and thats way more sick than this poor women's plight!
:monsters-

 

[Journeyman]

Tell that to her parents...you do not know that she wanted to die, its the husbands word...no one can say what her wish is...its a ridiculous situation....I'm not comparing the Iraq situation to this...yeah she's one person, but she has a family, she's not in any pain....Anyone that has children would not want this....its barbaric!

 

[Fidel]

It's why we have courts in this country, they have continually backed him up. Yes she wanted to go, or are the courts liars also? Really, there are many more relevent issues in the world than this, back to you Mr. O'Rielly!

 

[Hobbes]

What's up with the Fidel tag?

 

[Redneckman]

"Fidel" speaks for itself. What a slippery slope we tread when we start starving people to death simply based on somebody's word. It's one thing if there was a living will. There was no living will here. What a travesty. It will be hard to sleep tonight, knowing that she is slowly starving to death.

 

[one9]

Her parents are a bunch of whackos...Republicans, no doubt.Just like the pinhead Repulicans from DC who tried to go around the judges orders. As far as the husband moving on, he is still married to her isn't he?

By the way, no one has said a word about the tax payers who are paying for her to lay around and veg against her wishes because her parents can't let go!

 

[Fidel]

Let me get this straight a guy with the name of "Redneckman" says that my name speaks for itself, if that wasn't so dumb it would be funny.

:monsters-

 

[PatPatriot]

Why is it that the democrats/liberals are always in a hurry to murder innocents (abortion/Schiavo type cases) but a serial child murderer/rapist thats lost 15 appeals and been on death row for 20 years they have candle light vigils for?

Typical left up is down down is up.

 

[SENDITIN]

What makes this more f_cked up is that the parents are willing to take care of her for the rest of her life. Why then kill her? Her husband has nothing in writing about her wishes so whatever he says is heresay. That's why they make living wills....to avoid this kind of situation. In the absence of such will I say let her live.

 

[JudgeWapner]

Personally, I would prefer my wife to make the call in a situation like this. She would know more about my wishes than my parents would.

 

[Marco]

Clear and present reminder of the need for a living will.....

Personally I wouldn't care too much to be living in a world where all I had to look forward to was bedsores....there is more to life than having a pulse while waiting to die, and the inability to even use one's own hands to cross off the days on the calendar doesn't help much.

Ironic that in a world where mercy is shown to animals that are far past quality living that there is so much argument over the suffering of a human being whose life will probably never improve........before anybody gets the thought and twists this, I will state that I'm not for walking up to her and just putting a gun to the persons head......clearly there is a gray area here because the person had no living will......

I often wonder sometimes about situations like these or cases where severe birth defects strangle the ability to live any sort of normal life....if the people who are deadset about "life is life" could trade thier own healthy life and all the perks that go with it for a seat in a bed or a wheelchair where one's only motion might be the ability to move one's head or a few fingers......I think people who have success with thier own life tend to look at things from thier own perspective and don't see what the disadvantaged have to go through on a day to day basis.....

 

[Woody0]

Whatever the truth may be it's clear that her family and her husband went different ways long ago. Now we have the courts attempting a judgement that would tax the wisdom of Solomon.

 

[D2bets]

The hardest thing to believe here is Congress just taking this thing over when they have no business doing so. No respect for the court system and no respect for state's rights. This from Republicans who always claim otherwise. Buncha hypocrites.

Somebody has to make a decision and a spouse is a next of kin and should take precedence over parents. You choose your spouse....you do not choose your parents. Spouse should be the decisionmaker. Period.

 

[WildBill]

Amazing thing is how lawmakers and pundits talk about how the courts are ignoring the lawmakers. Uh in our system that is the way it is supposed to be! Courts should NEVER be under the influence of lawmakers or public. We charge our judges with our trust they will be dole out the law fairly, but the second a lawmaker doesn't like the decision it is race out and tell the world the judge is an outlaw. There are plenty of countries where the judicial branch is a lackey for other branches of government. Those countries are not one you would hope to find a fair trial or even see the rule of law exist. We don't want to go down that path, yet I have heard numerous lawmakers insist this is all wrong.

The judges aren't making her die, her husband is. The judges are just affirming his right to make this decision based on the laws and precedents out there. He has the right to make the decision on her continuing on with a feeding tube, why change the laws just because you don't like his decision?

 

[WHALE]

I think that if you are just a burden for your family it's better just leave this world, she'll be better in the other world or heaven or wherever she believes in.:howdy:

 

[919]

George Bush signed the law which allows the hospitals to make this decision:

A patient's inability to pay for medical care combined with a prognosis that renders further care futile are two reasons a hospital might suggest cutting off life support, the chief medical officer at St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital said Monday.

Dr. David Pate's comments came as the family of Spiro Nikolouzos fights to keep St. Luke's from turning off the ventilator and artificial feedings keeping the 68-year-old grandfather alive. St. Luke's notified Jannette Nikolouzos in a March 1 letter that it would withdraw life-sustaining care of her husband of 34 years in 10 days, which would be Friday. Mario Caba-llero, the attorney representing the family, said he is seeking a two-week extension, at minimum, to give the man more time to improve and to give his family more time to find an alternative facility.


Yes, this is a a matter of principle for the GOP. You believe that, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

 

[xpanda]

The judges aren't making her die, her husband is. The judges are just affirming his right to make this decision based on the laws and precedents out there. He has the right to make the decision on her continuing on with a feeding tube, why change the laws just because you don't like his decision?

I was wondering about this. The headlines make it seem like the courts are ordering the doctors to remove the feeding tube, an entirely different thing from granting her husband the right to make this decision on her behalf.

I feel for him, really. First years of seeing his wife like this, and now he's being demonised by the public and the media as a murderer. Removing artificial life supports is a common practice, people seem to be forgetting. Why is it that we have more mercy for our pets than we do for each other?

 

[919]

where will this stop?...is the government now going to legislate what kinds of treatments we MUST take?

 

[919]

The Washington Post is reporting this morning on a memo to GOP Senators outlining the importance of the Schiavo case for the '06 election. Calling the case a "great political issue," the memo specifically targets Bill Nelson and others, saying that this issue could prove an important wedge in '06 to pull the Religious Right out to the polls.

This is an important moral issue and the pro-life base will be excited that the Senate is debating this important issue," said the memo, which was reported by ABC News and later given to The Washington Post. "This is a great political issue, because Senator Nelson of Florida has already refused to become a cosponsor and this is a tough issue for Democrats."

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And just so we are clear on Bush's priorities...


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