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Week 2:

Jets -1
( bought .5 point)@ Cheater Patriots 2 units
Green Bay -3 @ Detroit ( 2 units )
Colts -2 @ Viqueens ( 2 units )
Saints -1 @ Deadskins ( 2 units )
NY Giants @ STL Lambs OVER 41 ( bought .5 point)

Last week I finished 3-3 but lost money due to varying units. In the Seattle and Miami games, my worst fears came true ( Bills ST, Favre Fluke play). I still feel like Miami was the right call, but you can't win them all. The smart play isn't always the winning play. The Colts crapped the bed, and I can't stand Tony Dungy as a coach, but whatever, they will bounce back this week. I also know that I had multiple leans that I didn't play that won ( Dal, GB, GB 2nd half over).

I jumped on these early because the lines could move against me, and I like these enough to play there. Here are the short write ups.

Jets -1
The Reason you buy the .5, is because 1 is a key number and 1.5 is not. 1 point is basically just to win. Everybody loves to buy to 3 or 7, but people overlook 1, 4, and 6. Last year before the year I bet on the Pats to win it all, and I was saying that Brady is better than you think ( he put up the stats to back it up last year). It wasn't that people didn't think he was good, but he means so much to his team. Last year Joe Gibbs wouldn't even let Jason Campbell call audibles, but Manning and Brady could call their own damn plays. If you sit back in coverage, they will beat you, and if you blitz them, they will find hot routes and beat you. I don't believe the Pats have some awsome offensive line, but Brady's intelligence MADE them look better because he was quick to get rid of the ball so they weren't getting beat. That also opens up the run game etc. and there is a snowball effect... No Brady = No snowball effect. Not only will his loss hurt the offense, but the defense could be on the field longer etc. I haven't liked what I have seen from Matt Cassell, and I believe the Jets win this one. If the Pats can barely squeak out a win at home vs the Croyle/Huard and the Chiefs, the Jets at home should win.

Favre wasn't super impressive last week ( lucky TD toss), but the team overall looks better and his arm opens up the entire field. The Jets did throw some passes down field, instead of the short stuff and check downs they would have been throwing with Clemens or Penny. I actually like the threat of Favre to help open up things for Thomas Jones too and help the D.

Green Bay -3
In General it isn't a good thing to play a team that won a nationally televised game, but the line is only 3. Detroit's defense is still terrible. They stunk last year and they lost their big guy in the middle in Shaun Rodgers ( how bad are they now)? Well, they gave up a record 220 yards ( 10 per carry) to Michael Turner, and they gave up almost 100 to his backup. That is terrible! Especially with a rookie QB in his first start who isn't exactly a gigantic passing threat. Their defense isn't there, their coach stinks, and Kitna is average?

Green Bay on the other hand has a defense. The thing that stuck out to me in the Minnesota game was that they hit hard. Maybe they can cause some fumbles this week. GB was a solid team last year, and all Rodgers has to do is manage the game against a weak Lions D, and they should cruise on to victory. I thought Rodgers didn't look like a typical rookie or first year quarterback. I'm not calling him the new Favre or anything, but at least he wasn't bad. The thing about this play though, goes back to defenses. Green Bay has one, Detroit doesn't. Last year the Packers put up 37 and 34 points on the Lions. A 3 point spread isn't exactly calling for a blowout. Basically, if the you think the 13-3 Packers beat a Lions team with one of the worst defenses in the league, play the Pack -3.

Colts -2
I can't believe the Colts lost the first game ever in Lucas Oil Stadium. Usually teams are fired up and defend their ground in a new stadium. You can talk about Manning etc., but I feel that the Bears D played good. I also like how Lovie Smith would have Urlacher/Briggs in the A gaps, either firing in and blitzing, or pulling back. It really put a lot of pressure on the Colts backup center, and they tricked him and got at least 1 easy sack. I like Lovie Smith as a coach, mixing it up, preaching turnovers ( and getting them). The Bears were lined up against the Colt's O-line to confuse them. The Bears don't normally do that, but Lovie made the adjustment for THIS game. Tony Dungy is horrible at adjusting, the guy is a super conservative coach who wants to just stick to his game plan and not try anything "too crazy". This is why he couldn't win the big one in Tampa, and this is why Manning had to carry him to a title 2 years ago. In the playoffs somebody else will "beat you" if you keep challenging them to do so.

The Colts played his boring cover 2 like usual. The only variation he had is when Bob Sanders would creep down and have some run support. Here the Colts are playing a weak QB, and a rookie RB in his first ever NFL game, and Dungy plays his boring old cover 2 and gets crapped on for 29 points. People were talking about the Bears having a historically bad offense, and Dungy blew it. Dungy also wasted 2 timeouts with "hope" challenges that were obviously not going to get reversed.

The Vikings have the awsome RB that could run wild on the Colts D, but Tavaras Jackson is terrible. The guy had 6 yards passing near the end of the first half? The Packers were daring him to throw the ball downfield, and he failed to execute. He would throw a deep ball 15 yards too short, or get sacked, or just not understand what the hell is going on.

I think the Colts win this one. I was very dissapointed after the first game, but Manning will be back. The Vikings have a weak pass D ( although better with Jared Allen), but I thought the Colts would be 7-0 or 6-1 by the time they meet the Patriots later in the year ( I was wrong). The Colts are banged up and do have injuries to their O-Line ( and Addai who is questionable after taking a nasty hit), but I think they find a way to win. If Addai will play, this spread could easily creep up from -2 to -3.

Saints -1
The Saints put up 24 points last week against the Bucs. Tampa has a better D than Washington, and I'd expect the Saints to put up more than 20 points at Washington. I understand this game will be on the road and on Grass, but Naw Awlans has the chess pieces on offense to put up points. I'd like if Deuce could get in there and do something, but Pierre is decent himself. Ragina Bush probably wouldn't be much of a rushing threat vs this Skins D ( they are pretty good), but he could be helpfull catching passes.

If you believe in the Redskins at all, this is the time to bet on them. They are at a point of max pessimism. Their offense didn't do anything in the preseason and anything at all in the regular season. I was anti- Jason Campbell for a while, and now even his biggest fans are starting to come around and say things that I have been saying ( holds onto the ball forever, long release, not reading the defense, too many check downs etc.).

The good thing for the Redskins is that I don't really believe in the Saints defense as well. If the Redskins could muster any offense at all, they could win this game. I'd just rather have Drew Brees against a good defense, than Jason Campbell still learning and against a bad defense. The Saints defensive ends actually aren't that bad with Smith and Grant to pressure Campbell. I see the Saints going over 20 points, but I am not sure about the Skins. I also think more times than not, the Saints win this game. Sure,if you played this game 100 times, a certain percentage of time the Saints would crap the bed, but more times than not they win this game.

Giants/Lambs over 41
I bought the half point because 41 is actually pretty key. Example, 21-20 game. Marc Bulger and the Rams have looked bad in the preseason and horrible in week 1. If you are ever going to play a team, you do that at point of max pessimism. The Rams were terrible last week, and probably can't be THAT bad. They almost looked like they weren't trying. On the other side of the ball, the Rams are very vulnerable to throw the ball against. An underrated or underachieving offense and a weak pass defense are both are good for overs.

The Giants on the other hand only scored 16 points, but had to settle for field goals in the red zone 3 out of 4 times. They moved the ball against Washington ( a better defense) and could move the ball at least as well, plus converting more TDs instead of FGs.

I actually thought this would open 44 or higher and I'd still like it as I'd expect about 47 points, but 41 is a good solid play. Maybe this game gets pushed up a few points before sunday, that's why I played it today.
 

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OK, since nobody responded, I will talk to myself.

I'd like to tease the NY Giants down from -9 to -2 (on a two team 7 pointer or 6.5er(, but I am not sure what would be best to tease them with.

NO -1
GB -3
Jets -1
are all small favs and it is always a bad idea to cross 0. I like teasing favs down, or addng extra points to the dog ( rather than crossing 0 and turning a fav into a dog).

The Cards are 7 point favs, Seattle 7 point favs, and Dallas. These games are less than ideal to tease down " just to win" IMO.
 

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OK, since nobody responded, I will talk to myself.

I'd like to tease the NY Giants down from -9 to -2 (on a two team 7 pointer or 6.5er(, but I am not sure what would be best to tease them with.

NO -1
GB -3
Jets -1
are all small favs and it is always a bad idea to cross 0. I like teasing favs down, or addng extra points to the dog ( rather than crossing 0 and turning a fav into a dog).

The Cards are 7 point favs, Seattle 7 point favs, and Dallas. These games are less than ideal to tease down " just to win" IMO.


hey i dont think you should tease anything... those are good the way they are !!!
 

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I got a question. Why is the tampa bay defense as you said better than the redskins defense. So you think the Bucs defense on the road in New orleans is better than the Redskins defense with 100 k cheering them on on the grass field. I have to totally disagree with that. Giants scored 16 points with about a hundred chances on offense(the way skins offense was playing).

Redskins tighten up in the red zone and didnt allow any points in the second half. And should have had like 4 picks. No doubt I think skins defense is much better than the bucs.
 

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My good friend writes in and asks: " Why is Tampa's D better than Washington's D"?

2007 Bucs
Points per Game Against: 16.68 ( # 3 in the NFL)
Yards per Play: 4.56 ( #1 in the NFL)
First Downs per game: 16.06 ( #2 in the NFL )
Yards per rush : 3.8 ( 7th best in NFL)
Rushing yards per game: 107.88 ( 17th best in the NFL)
Yards per pass: 9.18 ( 3rd best in the NFL )
Passing yards per game: 170.31 ( #1 in the NFL )
Total Yards per game: 278.19 ( #2 in the NFL )
Turnovers created 2.19

2007 Deadskins
Points per Game Against: 19.38 ( #11 in the NFL )
Yards per play: 4.76 ( #4 in the NFL )
First downs per game: 18.19 ( 13th in the NFL)
Yards per rush: 3.73 ( #3 in the NFL )
Rushing yards per game: 91.25 ( 4th best in the NFL )
yards per pass : 9.75 ( 4th best in the NFL)
Passing yards per game: 214 ( 16th best in the NFL)
Total yards per game: 305.25 ( 8th best in the NFL)
Turnovers created 1.5


In almost all of the major team defensive stats, Tampa was better than Washington last year. The Bucs gave up less than 1/10th of a yard more rushing on a per carry basis than the Redskins, and gave up more total rushing yards ( due to more attempts because people didn't want to attack their secondary).


My point is that NO faced off last week against a better Bucs D, and I feel they could put up a similar point total this week. I feel they can put up more than 20 points.

I taped the NO/Tampa game last week and watch half of it thus far ( the other half tonight), but the Saints D looks better this year.

- Jonathan Vilma was running around making plays at MLB
- LSU native Randy Gay, the corner they got from NE, made a nice stop on a 3rd down pass in man coverage.
- Sedrick Ellis is just a beast inside and the End next to him Charles Grant had two sacks and was pressuring Garcia. Garcia has much better pocket prescene than Campbell, and the Saints actually have 2 good ends in Smith and Grant. If Campbell is going to hold onto the ball too long, they will make him pay for it and he does tend to fumble.... Always keep in mind turnovers.

In general, if you believe in Washington this year, it would be a good time to play them after the loss on national tv, the long week/extra rest, and the fact that their offense HAS to play better than they did in game 1.

However
A) I don't believe in them
B) I don't believe in Jason Campbell
C) Even if their offense does play better, their red zone D stopped the Giants 3 out of 4 times and will probably play worse.
D ) New coach, new offense, will probably take more time to adjust. They didn't score much in the preseason, and didn't look at all better in the 1st game. The trend is your friend here until proven otherwise.

We aren't talking about a 10 point spread here or anything, just basically who will win. Brees is an estabilished NFL quarterback who can play on the road, the defense is better this year, and the redskins have a new coach, young QB, and new offense. Some Redskins fans I work with proclaimed " 3-13" after last weeks loss, and I wouldn't go that far, but I don't see them winning this one.

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My good friend writes in and asks: " Why is Tampa's D better than Washington's D"?

2007 Bucs
Points per Game Against: 16.68 ( # 3 in the NFL)
Yards per Play: 4.56 ( #1 in the NFL)
First Downs per game: 16.06 ( #2 in the NFL )
Yards per rush : 3.8 ( 7th best in NFL)
Rushing yards per game: 107.88 ( 17th best in the NFL)
Yards per pass: 9.18 ( 3rd best in the NFL )
Passing yards per game: 170.31 ( #1 in the NFL )
Total Yards per game: 278.19 ( #2 in the NFL )
Turnovers created 2.19

2007 Deadskins
Points per Game Against: 19.38 ( #11 in the NFL )
Yards per play: 4.76 ( #4 in the NFL )
First downs per game: 18.19 ( 13th in the NFL)
Yards per rush: 3.73 ( #3 in the NFL )
Rushing yards per game: 91.25 ( 4th best in the NFL )
yards per pass : 9.75 ( 4th best in the NFL)
Passing yards per game: 214 ( 16th best in the NFL)
Total yards per game: 305.25 ( 8th best in the NFL)
Turnovers created 1.5


In almost all of the major team defensive stats, Tampa was better than Washington last year. The Bucs gave up less than 1/10th of a yard more rushing on a per carry basis than the Redskins, and gave up more total rushing yards ( due to more attempts because people didn't want to attack their secondary).

This is a perfect example right here is why stats do lie. Im not saying to back the skins but i would like to talk to these so called stats. In these numbers do it mention that the redskins played the toughest division. That the worst team in their division was a good 8-8 eagles team. Also do those stats mentioned that the numbers are inflated by the 52-7 smackdown they took in New England. Also look at the offenses that the Bucs played last year. Im not saying i think skins will win cause this game is a stay away for me. But i definitely dont believe the Bucs defense is better than the skins.
 

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I rescore all the major stats using my own methods, and in doing so I have the Bucs with the 3rd best pass defense and 13th best run defense last year. I have the 'Skins with the 5th best pass defense and 3rd best run defense last year.

The Bucs' secondary was at full strength last week, the Skins' will not be at full strength this week.

All that aside, I completely agree with your breakdown of this game, C-Gold. I liked your analysis on all the others, as well. I'm betting the Pats +2.5 -- as you said, it's best to bet a team when their public opinion is at it's worst, lol, and if they happen to play okay with Cassel this may be the best line you'll see on them all season.

I like the Giants to score a bunch of points as well. My only concern for the Over is a repeat of last week's Philly/StL game where a blowout curtails the scoring late.

Thanks, you've become a must-read with your good info. here!
 

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This is a perfect example right here is why stats do lie. Im not saying to back the skins but i would like to talk to these so called stats. In these numbers do it mention that the redskins played the toughest division. That the worst team in their division was a good 8-8 eagles team. Also do those stats mentioned that the numbers are inflated by the 52-7 smackdown they took in New England. Also look at the offenses that the Bucs played last year. Im not saying i think skins will win cause this game is a stay away for me. But i definitely dont believe the Bucs defense is better than the skins.

1) I never argued that the stats are perfect, however they are a metric we use to measure quality.
2) No offense, but you do not need to educate me on the NFC east. I watch all 16 games, for all 4 teams. I work right next to the white house in downtown DC, and I eat, sleep, and breath NFC east football. I probably quoted the fact that the eagles were the best last place 8-8 team I have ever seen. They could have easily been 10-6.
3) The Eagles got their ass beat by the Patriots, and we are supposed to not count this for what reason? Jason Campbell played a horrible game, Brady lit up the Deadskins, and it was one of the most lopsided games of 07'. The Bucs didn't get blown out that way, so why should we not penalize the Redskins?
4) Tampa and the Redskins played last year, and Tampa won 19-13.
5) Tampa was a better defense last year in almost every measured category.

Tampa Bay had better stats than Washington last year everywhere. If you want to discount their big losses, or schedule, fine, but how much better do you feel Washington's D is over Tampas?

Tampa has brought back the same defense, only they added a 1st round corner in Talib, and they bring back Piscatelli from injury who has looked very well. Those are ADDS to last years #1 pass D.

Washington may have losst their most important chess piece, in Greg Williams. Greg Blanch is no Greg Williams.

Phillip Daniels was an underrated run stopper, and the Redskins replace him with Jason Taylor. Taylor is a great pass rusher, but the Giants attacked him against the run. Taylor will play this year ( already banged up), and maybe 1 more year if everything plays out. They traded with Bill Parcells, and I didn't like the trade. They rented him for a 2nd round pick ( which should be a good to average pick) when they really need to build this roster. Do you feel this team is close enough that all they need is Taylor? They rented him for 1 year so D. Snyder could sell jerseys and season tickets.

Finally, the Redskins lost Shawn Taylor. He was one of the best safeties in the league, and they had him for 75 percent of last year. I think Reed D. is a major downgrade. Throw in the fact that shawn springs is only 1 year older and more injury prone.

The skins have a verge top 10 D, but tampa had a top 5 D.
 

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I rescore all the major stats using my own methods, and in doing so I have the Bucs with the 3rd best pass defense and 13th best run defense last year. I have the 'Skins with the 5th best pass defense and 3rd best run defense last year.

The Bucs' secondary was at full strength last week, the Skins' will not be at full strength this week.

All that aside, I completely agree with your breakdown of this game, C-Gold. I liked your analysis on all the others, as well. I'm betting the Pats +2.5 -- as you said, it's best to bet a team when their public opinion is at it's worst, lol, and if they happen to play okay with Cassel this may be the best line you'll see on them all season.

I like the Giants to score a bunch of points as well. My only concern for the Over is a repeat of last week's Philly/StL game where a blowout curtails the scoring late.

Thanks, you've become a must-read with your good info. here!

Not only were the Bucs at a full strength, they added a 1st round pick and brought back a promising young piscatelli. Shawn Springs is still banged up and a liability back there until proven otherwise.

Coltston will be out, but Brees hit 4 different receivers for a 25 yard gain or more. That is huge? Brees actually reads defenses and throws the ball to the open man or most open man. Jason Campbells own damn coach said that he isn't reading the D, and that he is making his mind who to throw to before the snap, locking onto guys, and holding onto the ball too long.



As I said, the Saints and Jets might lose, and if you are EVER going to bet on the Redskins or Patriots, now is the time to do so. They have such negative opinions out there, that this is the time to buy. In general, I would rather fade these wildly unpopular teams, but I have no problem fading Jason Campbell and Matt Cassell until they show me something. I've watched Jason Campbells entire career, and all I see is check downs, Screens, a poor 2 min drill qb, fumbles, and excuses. He is immature and a loser and already losing a lot of credibility around washington. The local radio stations are ripping him as he has finally fallen out of flavor.

JC last week played one of the worst QB games I can remember, and Matt Cassell almost lost to a KC team that could be one of the worst in the league.
 

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I rescore all the major stats using my own methods, and in doing so I have the Bucs with the 3rd best pass defense and 13th best run defense last year. I have the 'Skins with the 5th best pass defense and 3rd best run defense last year.

The Bucs' secondary was at full strength last week, the Skins' will not be at full strength this week.

All that aside, I completely agree with your breakdown of this game, C-Gold. I liked your analysis on all the others, as well. I'm betting the Pats +2.5 -- as you said, it's best to bet a team when their public opinion is at it's worst, lol, and if they happen to play okay with Cassel this may be the best line you'll see on them all season.

I like the Giants to score a bunch of points as well. My only concern for the Over is a repeat of last week's Philly/StL game where a blowout curtails the scoring late.

Thanks, you've become a must-read with your good info. here!


I might be on the right side, I might be on the wrong side, but you at least want to know what you are betting on. Know the arguments FOR a certain team, and know AGAINST. The "lock of the millenium guys" only see the argument for, and lose their shirt because of this very reason. If you are ever too confident, you probably don't understand what the hell is going on. You are blinded by you own ignorance. You could very well beat me with the Pats, and I am UNCOMFORTABLE knowing them and the Redskins are at max pessimism. However, I want to see them play well before I believe. Show me your cards. Jason Campbell and Matt Cassell have earned absolutly 0 respect from me. Cassell has an excuse, he hasn't started a game since 1999, but all Campbell does is throws conservative checkdowns, screens, and 5 yard passes on 3rd and 17. It's not like these guys have had mixed success, I haven't seen anything from them. With that said, nothing is a "lock" and I could very well lose. I'd be happy for you, because you understand what is going on, unlike the people who make wagers and don't know what the hell is going on.

I agree that the Giants game could be one where they get a lead and the blowout curtails the score.
 

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Also looking at the Eagles +7 ( I knew I liked them all along), but since that game is Monday night, I can see how the week plays before placing a wager.
 

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Leans:
- San Diego Chargers -1
- Titans +1.5

These were the plays I was going to suggest for your Giants teaser.

NYG -2
Tenn +8 ....1st choice

NYG -2
TB Pk ......2nd

NYG -2
SD +8 ......3rd choice
 

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Saints/Bucs recap- Bobby Mccray rotating in at end, solid depth for the Saints
- Porter had a couple key stops and was an obvious upgrade, Aaron glenn, Randall gay ( out this week) improvements over David.
- Vilma is a huge upgrade to that LB core
- Sedrick Ellis in on the action, beefs up that DL.

- Saitns had 4 WR with 25 yard catch or more * (huge IMO), the defense has to play Brees honestly.
- Shockey didn’t do much early, but came to life later
- Tampa had some exotic blitzes on defense that will terrorize opposing QB’s.
- Saints had 2 key penalties in a row early in the game.
- Gaines Adams was tackled by the LT on Reggie Bush’s long td, terrible no call.


Titans/Jags- Chris Johnson really looked awesome out there
- Wilcotts making excuses for Vince Young’s poor play. Vince overthrows his receiver, and Wilots blames the WR. A WR drops a ball ( it happens to every QB), and Wilcots is saying Vince has no receivers, as if Peyton Manning and Tom Brady never have WR drops. Eli Manning had the most drops in the league last year, and he won the super bowl.

- 2 picks and a fumble for VY - inaccurate throws, all blamed on receivers but moron color commentary.
- 2 picks for Garrard
- under throwing Williamson,
I can’t watch a game that Soloman Wilcotts calls. The guy doesn’t even understand the passing game at all. When a mistake happens, he can’t even decipher who’se fault it is ( QB or receiver). No wonder he loves scramblers, their poor reads and throws are never their fault.
 

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It is actually a pretty warm day here in Washington. Last night at 9pm it was 83 degrees and humid. Not your typical Sept. 14th weather to say the least.


My point is that the Saints have 2 DE's that will get after you. Will Smith is a pro bowl caliber end, and Grant had 2 sacks last week. The point I am making though is Bobby Mccray off the bench can rush the passer as well on this hot day where there will be added fatigue. When the horses start getting tired, they can have a ROTATION. The redskins pass rush does NOT have that depth, and Jason Taylor is banged up as it is. The Redskins actually have 2 players in their back 7 that are banged up. I know you don't like having Colston out, but Brees hit 4 different targets for over 25 yard gains last week against a strong Tampa defense. That means he is reading defenses and will attack weakness. I can't say the same about JC Leftwhich and his slow release, holding onto the ball too long, and all those damn checkdowns/screens he throws.
 

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Im not talking shit here or bashing, cause I know people are so sensitive to that kind of thing. But I must say the redskins defense proved to me that they are much better than tampa bay defense.

The point I was trying to make to you earlier this week is that the skins defense is better at home than the bucs defense is on the road against the saints. I wasnt really saying altogether the redskins defense is better then the bucs D.

But after yesterday I would say they Skins D is better period. And I know they put up 24 but I know you probably watch the game from start to finish(we need material to talk shit on monday to all the skins fans.) If it wasnt for a bush return and a randle el punt return fumble saints probably wouldnt have got to 20.

Saint offense
250 total yards
55 rushing yards
Qb rating 69.8

I dont know why but sean payton wasnt even trying to run the ball at all and when he did they got nothing.
 

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