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NEW REPORT says PRES 04 vote outcome 1 in a million


Thu Mar 31st, 2005 at 10:31:43 PST

A new report just released confirms what many of us here have believed for a long time. The likelyhood of bush winning by 2.5% when exit polls showed Kerry winning by 3% just doesn't add up.

The full report can be found here
http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf


I for one wouldn't drive in a car designed by priests instead of engineers.
I believe tha math, and I don't believe that 1 in a million is very good odds that this thing wasn't rigged.

Table 7. (p. 18): Median Within Precinct Error (WPE) by voting equipment


Type of equipment used at polling place Median WPE Overall Paper ballot -0.9
Mechanical voting machine -10.3
Touch screen -7.0
Punch cards -7.3
Optical scan -5.5


Methods: First, take all of the precincts that were exit-polled on election day calculate the "within precinct error" (WPE, the discrepancy between the exit poll for each precinct and the actual tabulated vote total for that precinct). Second, divide the precincts into groups by voting method used. Third, within groups sort the precincts by the value of the WPE. Fourth, take the middle one (the median) of the sorted group, which represents a "typical" precinct error. The "typical" precinct error was minimally against Kerry for paper ballots (-0.9), and was huge in the other categories (ranging from -5.5 in optical scans to -10.3 for mechanical voting machines).
 
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919 there's never been a doubt in my mind how the last two Presidential elections turned out. But the sad fact is we have it too soft in this country. No one wants to rock their little boat. I don't know what it will take for the American people to see the light. I hope they do someday, before the bush cabal are out of the reach of justice.
 
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919 check this site out

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

the diebold machines used the password "diebold" on election day (clever huh?) and could be hacked by 18 year olds
 
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Diebold, Diebold, Diebold ....
 
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That is a scary distribution chart.
The thing is, it mirrors the normal distribution curve, but is skewed towards Kerry right across the entire spectrum by one to two SD's.

The instant conclusion is a complete fúk up by the exit poll company across the entire country.

The alternative is a countrywide fraud, throughout the entire sample, which seems unlikely...

There is some 4 SD stuff on Kerrys side but the entire sample is called into question by its really obvious 1 to 2 SD slant.

If the distribution mirrored the actual results then those 4 SD states would definitely be significant.
(I'm talking about page 6 btw)
 
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Guys, get with the program.
Voting inconsistancies in Russia equates to election fraud, however voting inconsistancies in America favoring Dum Dum is the will of God.

Geeez ... when will you people get it? God, Dum Dum and Big Dick are tight.
 
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</TD></TR><TR><TD height=10> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD>[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<!-- #BeginEditable "Body" -->COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.

O'Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.

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i agree with 919...

unless of course the liberal media made the exit polls look a certain way...

but nah, that would probably never happen.


herman munster lost. get over it. lol
 

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i mean, what kind of country do we live in?

Coordinated attack on your voting rights happening NOW!


Thu Mar 31st, 2005 at 08:50:39 PST

It is no accident that James A. Baker III is the co-chair of the new blue ribbon commission on voting issues. Baker helped ensure that the votes in Florida 2000 were not counted. How did Baker get on the commission? We don't know yet. The commission was created in secret.



Then there's the Gannon/Talon-like ACVR. The American Center <S>for</S> against Voting Rights. The "non-partisan" ACVR sprang into existance 3 business days before a 3/21/05 House Administrative Committee on voting issues of Ohio 2004. ACVR submitted a 31-page report to the Committee. The report, authored by Mark F. Hearne (General Counsel to Bush/Cheney '04), entirely blames ALL potential vote fraud on Democrats. Presently, the ACVR report is being circulated far and wide to every nook and crany of Freeper Land.

The Baker-tainted blue ribbon commission and the Gannon-like ACVR are both part of a coordinated attack on the right to vote. This is known because of a very peculiar detail reported by the BradBlog:

The Commission was seated in secret, announced on Thursday at 2pm, and lauded in a Press Release published by ACVR just 24 minutes later!


Reported at the BradBlog:
RNC Political Director Cites Report by RNC 'Voting Rights' Front Group to RNC Email List!

Is it a conspriacy? Is that possible? Is this crazy? Well, it IS a conspiracy. The recent activities of these high-level Republicans can't be reasonably explained any other way. To get a press release out 24 minutes after the created-in-secret-by-secret-people blue ribbon commission means you already had the press release typed up BEFORE the announcement, when none from the established voting rights groups knew about it.

We know James A. Baker III is on the commission PRECISELY because he will thwart any true vote reform.

We can see for ourselves that ACVR and their "report" are also there PRECISELY to thwart true vote reform.
ACVR fake report on Democratic-only vote fraud


These people have unbelievably big balls. The quote below is from page 20 of the ACVR report, under Intimidation and Voter Harassment:
Unfortunately, on November 2, 2004, activists from these third party organizations violated this voter protection law and harassed Ohio citizens seeking to exercise their right to vote. Many of the individuals engaged in this harassment of voters were representatives of "independent" third party organizations such as MoveOn.org. Some of these individuals - including individuals associated with political campaigns - misrepresented themselves as "nonpartisan" resources for voters. These individuals were cloaked under innocent sounding names such as the "Voter Protection Project," the "Ohio Election Protection Project," and other similar pseudonyms.



"cloaked under innocent sounding names such as the "Voter Protection Project," ?!?! Look who's talking!

And now we can see from the timing of their actions that they are coordinated. We are going to have to work our asses off to put a stop to this. They are working hard to ensure that no reform takes place, while our voting continues to become more controlled by secret voting software. Are we working hard enough to counter their actions? Are you fired up? After the 2004 election, there was a lot of intense blogging about what went down in Ohio and elsewhere, and the DKos community had a bit of a split as to how to approach believing and/or exposing this crap. But there was one thing we were all in 100% agreement on - we really need some voting reform. This voting reform isn't going to be easy, and it's for high stakes. At a minimum, this high-level GOP effort is perpetrated for control of the world's most powerful military and for increased corporate power. The innappropriate use of our military so far has resulted in well over 100,000 innocent civilian deaths. War profiteering is out of control with 9 billion missing and counting, and our leaders don't care enough.

Velvet Revolution, an umbrella group with over 100 member groups concerned about voting rights, calls it like it is:
Velvet Revolution Condems Baker's Presence on the Voting Reform Commission

Also check out (if you missed it) lapin's excellent recent diary on ACVR

Need a reminder why electronic voting is totally screwed? When Diebold central vote tabulators are set up exactly like they were on 11/2/04, they are proven on 3/8/05 to be easily hacked without a trace. I only started realizing the truth about the voting situation around the time of the 11/2/04 election. Since then it sinks in more and more each day how bad things really are. And just when I think I understand the full extent of it, it gets even worse. And in reality, it's even worse than how I understand it to be.
 
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unless of course the liberal media made the exit polls look a certain way...

Just keep repeating that mantra day in day out. Just like removing your brain...shampoo...rinse ...repeat.
 

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