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For some reason unbeknownst to me, I was sniffing around at the Drudge Report and stumbled upon this story:

Bush plans to screen whole US population for mental illness
Jeanne Lenzer

New York


A sweeping mental health initiative will be unveiled by President George W Bush in July. The plan promises to integrate mentally ill patients fully into the community by providing "services in the community, rather than institutions," according to a March 2004 progress report entitled New Freedom Initiative (www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/toc-2004.html). While some praise the plan's goals, others say it protects the profits of drug companies at the expense of the public.

Bush established the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health in April 2002 to conduct a "comprehensive study of the United States mental health service delivery system." The commission issued its recommendations in July 2003. Bush instructed more than 25 federal agencies to develop an implementation plan based on those recommendations.

The president's commission found that "despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed" and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children. According to the commission, "Each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviours and emotional disorders." Schools, wrote the commission, are in a "key position" to screen the 52 million students and 6 million adults who work at the schools.

The commission also recommended "Linkage [of screening] with treatment and supports" including "state-of-the-art treatments" using "specific medications for specific conditions." The commission commended the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP) as a "model" medication treatment plan that "illustrates an evidence-based practice that results in better consumer outcomes."

Dr Darrel Regier, director of research at the American Psychiatric Association (APA), lauded the president's initiative and the Texas project model saying, "What's nice about TMAP is that this is a logical plan based on efficacy data from clinical trials."

He said the association has called for increased funding for implementation of the overall plan.

But the Texas project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, sparked off controversy when Allen Jones, an employee of the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General, revealed that key officials with influence over the medication plan in his state received money and perks from drug companies with a stake in the medication algorithm (15 May, p1153). He was sacked this week for speaking to the BMJ and the New York Times.

The Texas project started in 1995 as an alliance of individuals from the pharmaceutical industry, the University of Texas, and the mental health and corrections systems of Texas. The project was funded by a Robert Wood Johnson grant—and by several drug companies.

Mr Jones told the BMJ that the same "political/pharmaceutical alliance" that generated the Texas project was behind the recommendations of the New Freedom Commission, which, according to his whistleblower report, were "poised to consolidate the TMAP effort into a comprehensive national policy to treat mental illness with expensive, patented medications of questionable benefit and deadly side effects, and to force private insurers to pick up more of the tab" (http://psychrights.org/Drugs/AllenJonesTMAPJanuary20.pdf).

Larry D Sasich, research associate with Public Citizen in Washington, DC, told the BMJ that studies in both the United States and Great Britain suggest that "using the older drugs first makes sense. There's nothing in the labeling of the newer atypical antipsychotic drugs that suggests they are superior in efficacy to haloperidol [an older "typical" antipsychotic]. There has to be an enormous amount of unnecessary expenditures for the newer drugs."

Olanzapine (trade name Zyprexa), one of the atypical antipsychotic drugs recommended as a first line drug in the Texas algorithm, grossed $4.28bn (£2.35bn; 3.56bn) worldwide in 2003 and is Eli Lilly's top selling drug. A 2003 New York Times article by Gardiner Harris reported that 70% of olanzapine sales are paid for by government agencies, such as Medicare and Medicaid.

Eli Lilly, manufacturer of olanzapine, has multiple ties to the Bush administration. George Bush Sr was a member of Lilly's board of directors and Bush Jr appointed Lilly's chief executive officer, Sidney Taurel, to a seat on the Homeland Security Council. Lilly made $1.6m in political contributions in 2000—82% of which went to Bush and the Republican Party.

Jones points out that the companies that helped to start up the Texas project have been, and still are, big contributors to the election funds of George W Bush. In addition, some members of the New Freedom Commission have served on advisory boards for these same companies, while others have direct ties to the Texas Medication Algorithm Project.

Bush was the governor of Texas during the development of the Texas project, and, during his 2000 presidential campaign, he boasted of his support for the project and the fact that the legislation he passed expanded Medicaid coverage of psychotropic drugs.

Bush is the clear front runner when it comes to drug company contributions. According to the Center for Responsive Politics (CRP), manufacturers of drugs and health products have contributed $764 274 to the 2004 Bush campaign through their political action committees and employees—far outstripping the $149 400 given to his chief rival, John Kerry, by 26 April.

Drug companies have fared exceedingly well under the Bush administration, according to the centre's spokesperson, Steven Weiss.

The commission's recommendation for increased screening has also been questioned. Robert Whitaker, journalist and author of Mad in America, says that while increased screening "may seem defensible," it could also be seen as "fishing for customers," and that exorbitant spending on new drugs "robs from other forms of care such as job training and shelter programmes."

But Dr Graham Emslie, who helped develop the Texas project, defends screening: "There are good data showing that if you identify kids at an earlier age who are aggressive, you can intervene... and change their trajectory."

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What seems to be missing from this article is whether or not mental health screening is going to be mandatory. I'd be looking into this if I were a Yank.
 

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This is what called compassionate conservatism, my northern light....and to not think that somebody or someone never makes a profit from a goverment intiative is very naive.
What pisses me off is that the media tries to sell this as being unique to the Bush admin. or Repubs.
 

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Well, profiteering aside (although still reprehensible but you guys should be very used to it by now) isn't really the issuem from where I sit. If this is to be mandatory, it means you've officially entered Big Brotherdom. Should the drugs and treatment also be mandatory, your government is endorsing capital profits at the expense of personal liberties. And these are some pretty dramatic personal liberties.
 

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I certainley don't endorse it...I mean what are the standards?.anybody thats a democrat??lol
Way too big brotherish for my taste..sounds like on the surface,anyway, that it paves the way for a lot more gov. intervention in to other areas of ones life....but see its touchy feely for the woman vote...I really mean this without being sexist as Bush is getting buried by the female vote right now...You'll see he will be saying more centrist (leftist...the definition of centrist has changed) as we get closer to Nov.
 

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How in god's name do you see this pandering to the women's vote? This is far far far from a leftist move ... if anything, it smacks of fascism. This is something a Hitler-type would dream up.
 

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I agree with you..but the average woman or man do not have the insight that you do on such things...Don't you think on its face it sounds compasionate??....i mean the first few paragraphs sound like a little bit like the liberal line."...for the children." type of thing.You know when some soccer mom is trying to get little suzie to stop bangin her head on the bathroom tile.it sound like a wonderfull idea...Its an idea that will be embraced by the ridalin for baby sitter crowd.
So don't get to snappy or I'll have to calm you down
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Oh by the way,if this was a democrat initiave I would have thought this is another step toward gun control...speaking of Hitleresque programs the dems have more than their fair share.
 

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Well the fact that potential mental health patients are referred to as 'consumers' ought to erase any concerns that this is some kind of compassionate conservative mumbo-jumbo. Besides, anyone who still thinks Bush is a compassionate conservative likely is already a mental health patient.

I just used my 1000th post on you, Pat.
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lmao...and a good one to boot.I'm glad you didn't say wasted my 1000 post on you.

You may be skeptical of Bush being compassionate but he spent a good part of this week at rehab and detention centers.. while Kerry spent his weekend at Nantucket with the rest of the limosine liberals and he also made the announcment he was going to make go to DC to make a vote.
Thank Christ for J Kerry is actually going to do his job...since he has missed 87% of the votes this year.
 

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posted by xpanda:
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How in god's name do you see this pandering to the women's vote? This is far far far from a leftist move ... if anything, it smacks of fascism. This is something a Hitler-type would dream up.
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Of course I am not nearly so well-acquainted with the Canadian political environment as I am the American, but this is a far-far-left thing down here ... as is most anything that starts with the words "universal" or "comprehensive."

Of course, you couldn't get too much farther left than Bush and his Trotskyite
circle of friends, but the whole left-right distinction has pretty much been blurred beyond recognition -- one reason I just gave up on active politics.


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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:

You may be skeptical of Bush being compassionate but he spent a good part of this week at rehab and detention centers...
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I read that too fast and thought you had said that Bush spent a good part of his life in rehab and detention centres ...
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phaedrus:

Of course I am not nearly so well-acquainted with the Canadian political environment as I am the American, but this is a far-far-left thing down here ... as is most anything that starts with the words "universal" or "comprehensive."

Of course, you couldn't get too much farther left than Bush and his http://forum.therx.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=9103084407&m=44410637
circle of friends, but the whole left-right distinction has pretty much been blurred beyond recognition -- one reason I just gave up on active politics.


Phaedrus<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well [although nothing in the article itself backs it up] the headline is more indicative of a police-state than a universal helping hand. Additionally, here at least, anything that draws in the cooperation of the private sector is rarely seen as leftist, regardless of its stated intention or party of origin. Certainly 'universal screening for mental illness' coming from the gov't in no way would give me the warm fuzzies.
 

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Well, it may be a matter of confusing left and right. Most private-public sector "cooperation" is little more than a vanilla-flavoured fascism.

Fascism is a necessary tool to implement the policies of socialism, since socialism is not economically viable and can only support itself via theft and misappropriation, which is more effectively done when the major economic producers of an economy work with the state instead of against it.

Combined with the historical alignment of the original fascists with the German socialists, I think that it is fair to characterise fascism as a "leftist" political platform.

"Leftist" meaning "liberal," but not liberal as in classically liberal.

Most "vanilla fascism" is implemented by the Republican party, who is generally thought of as "rightist."

"Rightist" meaning "convservative," but not in the sense of conservative political platforms up to the last twenty years or so -- it is a new conservatism, or "neoconservatism," if you will.

So in other words the neoconservative right is implementing fasicst policies which the peculiarly non-liberal liberal left would love to see implemented themselves, if with a slightly less rightist twist to the matter.

I am so confused.


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Move far enough to the left, and you're treading into the territory of the right, isn't that how it goes? Both ends of the spectrum have some version of totalitarianism, and I would argue that, in the case of 'mandatory public mental health screening' that the practice would be invasive enough to be scoffed at by both the right and the left, if they're paying enough attention.

Frankly, any effort by the Bush administration to to find out who is or is not mentally 'off' is not only terribly ironic, but leaves one wondering exactly what he may do with such information.
 

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Perhaps we'll all end up like these poor souls ...


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Mental Illnesses Bring Detention for Some Youths

Report finds many juveniles are `warehoused' in facilities

by Erica Werner
Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Thousands of mentally ill youths are unnecessarily put in juvenile detention centers to await mental health treatment, a House committee reported Wednesday.

Centers usually are not equipped to treat mental illness, and in some cases the youths have not been charged with a crime, said the report by the Democratic staff of the House Government Reform Committee.

"The use of juvenile detention facilities to house youth waiting for community mental health services is widespread and a serious national problem," said the report, which found that two-thirds of juvenile detention facilities hold youths who are waiting for mental health treatment. "This misuse of detention centers as holding areas for mental health treatment is unfair to youth, undermines their health, disrupts the function of detention centers and is costly to society."

The report was prepared at the request of California Rep. Henry Waxman, the House Government Reform Committee's top Democrat, and Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, chairwoman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee.

"Thousands of youth who are in need of community mental health services are stuck in jail until these services become available," Waxman said. "This is deplorable. Congress must ensure that our children have access to the mental health care that they need."

Collins scheduled a hearing on the issue Wednesday in which Waxman was testifying along with experts on mental health law, youth behavior and juvenile detention.

The report identified 698 juvenile detention facilities in the United States, defined as correctional facilities holding people age 21 and younger awaiting charges or trial or recently tried. Seventy-five percent of the facilities, or 524, responded to the survey, including facilities from every state but New Hampshire. The survey covered six months, Jan. 1, 2003, to June 30, 2003.

The report did not attempt to determine why so many youths who needed mental health treatment were being put in juvenile detention but said administrators blamed the lack of other treatment facilities.

One detention center administrator from Louisiana wrote, "We appear to be warehousing youths with mental illnesses due to lack of mental health services."
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Not too big on conspiracy theories, but I've always been of a mind that there is no more effective way to control public dissent than a comprehensive federal mental health program. Anyone could be the next Charles Sell if he stepped too far out of line.



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Attempt to Dump Mental Screening Fails

Rep. Ron Paul hoped to stop mandatory federal program for children

(WorldNetDaily)

<!--StartFragment -->An amendment offered by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, in the House of Representatives yesterday that would have remove from an appropriations bill a new mandatory mental-health screening program for America's children failed by a vote of 95-315.

Paul's amendment would have removed the program from the Labor, HHS and Education Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 2005. Ninety-four Republicans and one Democrat sided with Paul, while 118 Republicans, 196 Democrats and one Independent voted against the amendment.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the New Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only for children but eventually for every American. The initiative came out of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.
Critics of the plan say it is a thinly veiled attempt by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and antipsychotic medication, and puts government in areas of Americans' lives where it does not belong.

As WND reported yesterday, Kent Snyder of the Paul-founded Liberty Committee argued strongly against the program:

"The real payoff for the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result – as we learned tragically with Ritalin – even when parents refuse."

[font=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]The congressman, who is known for his strict adherence to the Constitution, wrote in a letter to his colleagues before the vote: "As you know, psychotropic drugs are increasingly prescribed for children who show nothing more than children's typical rambunctious behavior. Many children have suffered harmful effects from these drugs. Yet some parents have even been charged with child abuse for refusing to drug their children. The federal government should not promote national mental-health screening programs that will force the use of these psychotropic drugs such as Ritalin." [/font]

<!--StartFragment -->The New Freedom Commission found that "despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed" and recommended comprehensive mental-health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children.
The commission said, "Each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviors and emotional disorders."

Schools, the panel concluded, are in a "key position" to screen the 52 million students and 6 million adults who work at the schools.
 

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I think mental / counseling treatment should be considered in the same vein as physical physical treatment: voluntary & necessary. We go for constant physical checkups, dental, cancer & major illness tests & pre-screening-- but no one checks the brain. Everyone should at minimum have monthly counseling sessions: at the very least it will help us deal w/ relationship & job issues; the proof's the airwaves are chock-full of "Ask so & so" programs. This may help, cure, or prevent those who go postal on the job, have kids without sufficient preparation, juveniles w/ mental issues may be gotten to in time...

Those in urban areas w/ significant homeless problems will readily agree that the indigent majority suffer from some mental disorder-- & just giving them free housing one more time will not help-- they've been likely already given several such chances...Space in mental facilities is scarce & expensive...

What we end up doing usually is to only catch mental problems until way too late & miss-label them "criminal".

This is a big opportunity for those on the left joining to shape up such an initiative-- a chance to fix some issues that have long been among several of their main raisons d'être........
 

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