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President Bush's drug warriors must really, really want to protect their ability to throw non-violent marijuana users in jail. The White House sent at least three party crashers to a press conference Wednesday with Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), who has introduced a pot-decriminalization bill.
The Office of National Drug Control Policy's "chief scientist" and two aides who were dispatched to provide instant rebuttal to Frank and the bill's cosponsors, all of whom acknowledged that marijuana was likely to remain very much illegal in the foreseeable future.
Given the bill's essentially non-existent chances of passage, ONDCP's Dr. David Murray's impassioned arguments that seemed more appropriate in Reefer Madness were greeted with plenty of puzzled glances.
Why did the White House feel it necessary to send at least three staffers to Capitol Hill to place in every reporter's hand a copy of its 20-page, color-copied "2008 Marijuana Sourcebook?" RAW STORY posed this question to Murray.
"It is our responsibility to be aware of policy developments," said Murray, who clarified that he had a PhD and was not a medical doctor. He explained that Frank's attempt to modify the controlled substances act was very much of interest to the Bush administration's pot prohibitionists.
The Marijuana Policy Project's Rob Kampia, who stuck around to listen to Murray's post-press conference diatribe, said he suspected ulterior motives behind the propagandistic pontificating.
"Nothing's going to happen on this before he loses his job," the decriminalization advocate said, acknowledging that Frank's bill won't move forward until at least next year, when President Bush -- and his appointees -- would be out of office. "This is him emptying the clip."
To its defenders, Frank's bill is a common sense move aimed at protecting letting states institute marijuana policies as they see fit, protecting patients in the dozen states that have legalized medical marijuana and generally telling the government to butt out of people's private lives. To its opponents...
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"I don't think that it is the government's business to tell you how to spend your leisure time," Frank said of his bill, which would eliminate federal penalties for individual possession of up to 100 grams (about 3.5 ounces) of marijuana.
Frank's proposal is aimed only at decriminalizing individual possession, so it alone would not end raids by the Drug Enforcement Agency on medical marijuana dispensaries in states like California. Frank said he's authored separate medical marijuana legislation that he would introduce in concert with the individual bill.
Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO) criticized the government for wasting billions of dollars on a "phony war on drugs" that's done virtually nothing to actually stop anyone from using drugs.
One presumes that some of those billions were spent on the glossy Office of Drug Control Policy report with the Dr. Strangelovian title, "Marijuana: The Greatest Cause of Illegal Drug Abuse." Naturally, if marijuana were decriminalized, that wouldn't be the case, but such nuance is lost on drug war defenders.
The press conference also featured marijuana defenders pointing out that the drug has caused none of its users to die, unlike alcohol and tobacco -- both of which are legal.
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"We do not arrest and jail responsible alcohol drinkers; this should be our policy with marijuana as well," said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. The NORML representative was sporting a small gold marijuana leaf pin on his lapel, where miniature American flags are a more common Capitol Hill accessory.
Frank, who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, said his decriminalization bill would fall under the purview of the House Judiciary Committee, which he hoped would hold hearings on the proposal next year. A Judiciary Committee spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Asked specifically if he thought his bill would become law, Frank said more shifts in perception were needed first.
"The chances are not high at this point," the lawmaker said, a knowing chuckle letting the audience know his pun was very much intended.
The following video and the above photos were taken Wednesday by Nick Juliano.



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Meanwhile, members of the most cowardly law enforcement agency in the world - the DEA - geared up paramilitary style to raid unarmed medical marijuana providers operating a state-legal dispensary for medical patients in Orange County CA

From yesterday's Orange County Register:
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica] US CA: Rifle-Toting DEA Agents Raid Marijuana Store

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica] URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v08/n739/a01.html

Pubdate: Wed, 30 Jul 2008
Source: Orange County Register, The (CA)

Author: Eugene W. Fields, the Orange County Register
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/mmj.htm (Marijuana - Medicinal)

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica] RIFLE-TOTING DEA AGENTS RAID MARIJUANA STORE

Raid in Orange Comes on the Heels of a Court Ruling Favoring Dispensary.

ORANGE--A medical marijuana dispensary in the middle of a legal battle with the city of Orange was raided again by federal agents.

Nature's Wellness Collective owner Bob Adams said the dispensary was raided by approximately 14 DEA agents armed with assault rifles and accompanied by members of the Orange Police Department just after 1 p.m. Tuesday. Adams said agents took all of his medicinal marijuana supply, money from the store's register and ATM machine, computers, cameras, smoking pipes and his city-issued business license and detained him and his three employees.

Nature's Wellness -- at 830 E. Lincoln Avenue -- was first raided by agents from the Drug Enforcement Agency and Orange police officers in March. Adams said the latest raid was much the same.

Frank Urbano, a worker in a store in the same shopping center, said the agents came in three cars, including a Mercedes Benz. "The Mercedes backed in really fast," Urbano said. "They got out with their helmets and guns and started flying."

Kamis Day, another employee, spoke from his cell phone from a holding cell in Santa Ana: "They kicked in the door, smashed everything, handcuffed me and threw me in the back of the car. They didn't read me my rights."

Adams, Day and the other employees were released after about two hours and said they were not charged.

Adams said he was frustrated because he just wants to help people. "I'm trying to do this for the right reasons and the right way," Adams said. "The last thing I want to be is a detriment to the community. I'm trying to help."

The raid comes on the heels of a July 3 decision by a Superior Court judge denying the city's motion to dismiss a suit filed by Nature's Wellness - the first step in the dispensary being allowed to remain open.

Adams said he would consult with his lawyer to determine what's next, but vowed to continue his battle.

"I'm going to lean on my family and I'm going to pay my employees," Adams said. "I'm going to keep trying to help people. I still say this is the best thing that I've ever done."

Sgt. Dan Adams of the Orange Police Dept. said members of his department were only observing Tuesday.

"We went there because it was in our city," Adams said. "It's the DEA's investigation."
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"RIFLE-TOTING DEA AGENTS RAID MARIJUANA STORE"

Because we all know pot smoking cancer patients are always armed to the teeth.
 

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Gotta get those substance abusers off the streets before November. :thumbsup:


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let me get this straight

the "right" wants to keep marijuana illegal, but is fine with smoking tobacco in fights it bars, fights putting bans in public places, and fights raising taxes on cigarettes

while the "left" wants to legalize marijuana, but ban smoking in bars, and raises taxes through the roof, and wants to do all kinds of government stop smoking campaigns spending lotsa money

the left/right debate you can't make this shit up sometimes its so funny when you look at the whole picture

its all a big dog and pony show to give you want the one party system wants more government
 

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let me get this straight

the "right" wants to keep marijuana illegal, but is fine with smoking tobacco in fights it bars, fights putting bans in public places, and fights raising taxes on cigarettes

while the "left" wants to legalize marijuana, but ban smoking in bars, and raises taxes through the roof, and wants to do all kinds of government stop smoking campaigns spending lotsa money

the left/right debate you can't make this shit up sometimes its so funny when you look at the whole picture

its all a big dog and pony show to give you want the one party system wants more government

I want none of the above
 

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so your a big government liberal that says the government should tell people what they can't and can consume?

live and let live conservative saying government should get outta my life and everybody's lives.....i'll make my own decisions....business owners will make their own decisions.....that's my position....government can't save you from the ills of the world....only you can
 

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so your a big government liberal that says the government should tell people what they can't and can consume?

live and let live conservative saying government should get outta my life and everybody's lives.....i'll make my own decisions....business owners will make their own decisions.....that's my position....government can't save you from the ills of the world....only you can

Is that what I said?

Because I thought I said "I want none of the above"
 

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so you want to end the federal ban on marijuana than?

weren't very clear which way is it

you want federal government telling us what we should and shouldn't do?

or you don't?

or you a mix match of liberal/conservative?....being a decider for the people....this is okay and this isn't....like most americans....
 

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Tizdoom, your mindless rambling gives me a headache.

You and your ilk contribute more to the expansion of BIG GOVERNMENT than those evil righties you incessantly rail against.

The right wants a more responsible, authoritative society so the left has less ammunition for BIG GOVERNMENT socialism.

More parental authority = less BIG GOVERNMENT.
More teacher authority = less BIG GOVERNMENT.
More religious authority = less BIG GOVERNMENT.
More small community authority = less BIG GOVERNMENT.

Less BIG GOVERNMENT = more LIBERTY.

The right supports traditional American institutions; the left supports BIG GOVERNMENT "progressive social engineering."

The concept of authority, has broken down across the social spectrum -- parent to child, teacher to student, human to God. This has had very serious and negative consequences for our society. Most notably...

THE ENDLESS EXPANSION OF BIG GOVERNMENT!

If you hate and fear BIG GOVERNMENT the way I do, there's, there's only one logical thing for you to do :

Repent and convert to social conservatism. :toast:
 

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yeah forcing people to do certain things really helps stop them

humans natural tendency is to rebel

whatever....

just look into smaller scales being authorative figure telling your kid you should do this is this tends to lead to bad behavior

vs. educating them on the negatives of taking a action and taking a more open educated logical approach tends to lead to less bad behavior

the "rights" moral standards are supurb as well with gay priests and gay senators

setting a great example for us all
 

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yeah forcing people to do certain things really helps stop them

humans natural tendency is to rebel

whatever....

just look into smaller scales being authorative figure telling your kid you should do this is this tends to lead to bad behavior

vs. educating them on the negatives of taking a action and taking a more open educated logical approach tends to lead to less bad behavior

Spoken like a true mama's boy.

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institutionalization of moral standards just leads to lower moral standards

just like more welfare leads to more poverty

its common sense joe

the right and left use the same wrong logic but on different shit
 

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institutionalization of moral standards just leads to lower moral standards

just like more welfare leads to more poverty

its common sense joe

No, it's feminist thinking, tizdoom.

Treat children as our "equal" -- classic loony leftist thought (an oxymoron if there ever was one).

Your 'logical' approach believing 'education' will help curb sin and rebellion only perpetuates the behavior you are trying to stop.

"Education" = another useless social program. You're making the left's arguments for them. How do you feel, Mr. I'm-for-small-government? :missingte

Tizdoom, children don't have ANY 'rights' -- except what their parents and teachers give them. Do you understand this reality?

Government needs to fuck off and stop telling parents how to raise their children and what kids should be taught in schools.

You have a perpetual 1960s adolescent mindset if you think the concept of authority is "old fashioned."

Yes, kids need love and nurturing (mother's role), but they need discipline and character development even more (father's role). And I would argue the later is far more critical than the former.

I needn't remind you what happens to a society when the role of fatherhood is marginalized (yin-yang is thrown out of whack) because we see it EVERYDAY.

You want "fiscal responsibility" in Washington? Try starting at the dinner table.

Good social policies and good economic policies go hand in hand. :103631605
 

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It never gets old watching MARK step on his own dick

MARK L Contrarian: Less BIG GOVERNMENT = more LIBERTY.

MLC: I support the government telling American adults what they can ingest!
 

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MARK purports: Tizdoom, children don't have ANY 'rights' -- except what their parents and teachers give them. Do you understand this reality?

SH: Yeah Tiz. If a child has a parent who doesn't believe they have the right to be free from violence and sexual abuse, then those kids should shut up and be grateful when their parents beat them and rape them.

(Another indicator that Mark himself was subject to a good dose of adult violence and possible sexual abuse when he was a young lad)
 

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