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HiloBoy

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He loves these disasters. Takes everyones mind off his poll numbers which always go up during such times. Just like 9-11 which he loved as well (got him reelected).
 
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Knock off the political sh*t. This is the worst natural disaster in U.S. history, and you start politicizing it.
 
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REDNECKMAN is BANG ON!

Politicizing this tragedy while 80,000 people remain trapped in NO, in some cases watching sharks swim up the street is classless indeed.

What CAN be politicized, however, is how the White House HANDLES this tragedy within the context of what was and wasn't done before and after Katrina.

For instance, it can be argued that the US President should be in LA RIGHT NOW as opposed to handling the crisis from Washington.

Further, it can also be argued that the administration's policies of massive cuts to the LA Army Corp of Engineers, coupled with the draw down on National Guardsman / Reserves as a result of inept planning at the Defense Dept. vis-a-vis the illegal invasion of Iraq, can and will, drastically alter the nation's ability to save Americans.

For now... lets get the people to safety.
 

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Why should Bush be in Louisiana right now? They have enough problems as it is. Louisiana needs rescuers and engineers there, not a warmongering President.
 
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hellah10 said:
I think you might be onto something! But if it is, the question is why?
 
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For instance, it can be argued that the US President should be in LA RIGHT NOW as opposed to handling the crisis from Washington.

It can be argued by whom? Who in their right mind would say the POTUS should be in NOLA? What difference would it make? How could he help any more by physically being in the city?


Further, it can also be argued that the administration's policies of massive cuts to the LA Army Corp of Engineers, coupled with the draw down on National Guardsman / Reserves as a result of inept planning at the Defense Dept. vis-a-vis the illegal invasion of Iraq, can and will, drastically alter the nation's ability to save Americans.


Actually, it can't...because you're manufacturing a false issue. You're basically asking why we don't have national guard deployed all along the southern border, and apparently blame the deployment in Iraq for why that hasn't happened. The truth is that having the national guard deployed along our southern border has <!--EZCODE ITALIC START-->never<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--> been U.S. policy. So even if there were no Iraq war at all, we still wouldn't be doing it.
 

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still dont know what the president could possiblly do in
louisiana.
always puzzles me how the liberals can embrace the national
guard in this time of great need, but can belittle them
during presidential elections.
last year they gave them absolute cub scout status
 

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What curbed the King Riots in Los Angeles the National Guard. Maybe if they had an immediate stronger presence in New Orleans they could have controlled the anarchy. But the paranoid schizo hawk conservatives demand a build up in places that are useless. See Iraq as a total waste of time nothing has come about a troop build up
 

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If needed, they should immediately withdraw National Guard from Iraq to help in LA, MS. The health and safety of American citizens must take precedence over the health and safety or Iraqis. That is my position. Others may disagree.
 

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gns61 said:
still dont know what the president could possiblly do in
louisiana.
always puzzles me how the liberals can embrace the national
guard in this time of great need, but can belittle them
during presidential elections.
last year they gave them absolute cub scout status

Who belittled the National Guard during presidential elections. Please don't equate belittling George W. Bush, who didn't even successfully complete his tour of defending Alabam during the Vietnam War, with belittling the National Guard. I mean, if that's the case, then those who belittled Kerrys' service were belittling all Nam Vets.

The National Guard is very important in these times of need. This is what they were meant for. Unfortunately they are being misused in a war of choice, a bad choice at that.
 
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Only bigger disaster than the one in New Orleans and Mississippi is the Bush Presidency, oh how I miss those economic giddy days of Bill Clinton. To the Chimp it's just another business run into the ground, sorry gotta run and fill up my tank before gas reaches $4 bucks, how bad can it get? Can someone pass the failure fries?:sad3:
 
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WASHINGTON - An additional 10,000 National Guard troops from across the country began pouring into the Gulf Coast region Wednesday, adding new soldiers and airmen to shore up security, rescue and relief operations in the region ravaged by Hurricane Katrina.
The new units brought the number of troops dedicated to the effort to more than 28,000, in what may be the largest military response to a national disaster.
Fully one-third of the 21,000 National Guard troops descending on the Gulf Coast from across the country will be used for security, to prevent looting, enforce curfews and enhance local law and order, said Lt. Gen. Steven Blum, commander of U.S. National Guard forces.
 
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JDEUCE - manufacturing a false issue??? Is that like saying there's no holes in doughnuts?

1) It CAN be argued that POTUS should be in LA because in my opinion, one of the greatest natural disasters in US history warrants more than a cursory fly-by in a 747.

AND

2) Your absolutely right - I DO BLAME the Defense Dept.

The gross mismanagement, inept planning and execution of the illegal invasion of Iraq, is a DIRECT consequence as to why some 7000 LA and MS Guardsman are NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE...

Guardsman who would MOST ASSUREDLY, be deployed along the southern border in the face of a CAT-5 hurricane as first responders - ready and waiting to assist and protect THEIR homes and THEIR families before and after.

Furthermore - I DO BLAME the Bush Admin for providing a measly 1/6th the funding requested by the Army Corps. of Engineers to protect the city of New Orleans.
 

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JDunce's motto is "kneel, bob, suck and lie at all costs to defend Neo-Nazism and hatred towards Americans."
 
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Lander we all know you're an idiot, you don't have to keep proving it.
 
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Redneckman said:
Lander we all know you're an idiot, you don't have to keep proving it.

Hate to disappoint you but he's got a pretty good point....AND he's a conservative you jagoff.
You are one dumb mutt if you think this admin is following a "conservative" agenda. Get a new brain, pull the dildo out yo azz, and have some fuvcking humility.
 
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cussin'it said:
Hate to disappoint you but he's got a pretty good point....AND he's a conservative you jagoff.
You are one dumb mutt if you think this admin is following a "conservative" agenda. Get a new brain, pull the dildo out yo azz, and have some fuvcking humility.

:lolBIG:
 
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You still haven't answered my question, Comrade Stryker. What exactly could W do any better by being physically in the city of NOLA? What were you hoping for...seeing him paddle on an inflatable raft trying to pull bodies out of the water? Even the National Guard couldn't completely get into the city for a while since the weather was so dangerous, which brings me to...


The gross mismanagement, inept planning and execution of the illegal invasion of Iraq, is a DIRECT consequence as to why some 7000 LA and MS Guardsman are NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE...


Fool...there's no lack of Guard in La. In fact, the adjutant general isn't asking for more troops. They can't get them into the city anyways.

There are literally tens of thousands of Guardsmen available. In fact, 124,000 are available right now in the region:

http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=7819

How many troops do you want? another 124,000? 600,000? How about cool million?

Or is the US Army just some right-leaning web site which can't be trusted to report fairly and accurately?

Making things up which are convenient to your argument isn't consistent with these intelligent debates you seem to crave.
 

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