Bundy Ranch near Vegas ... who's following?

[JDeuce]

No, not the bunny ranch, you fucken pervs...BUNDY ranch.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/615259-cliven-bundy-ranch-dispute-huge-difference-between-coverage-by-conservative-and-liberal-media/

Let me see if I have this straight...

A U.S. ambassador and three others are murdered in Benghazi, and dimocraps call it a phony scandal. Cows wander on what the feds suddenly claim is their land (after the Bundy family has owned it since the 1800s), and the Stuttering Clusterfuck sends in hundreds of troops under the guise of saving desert turtles? Are you absolutely fucking kidding me? And now Dingy Hairy Reid has reportedly made the area a no-fly zone.

Daily Kos is calling this Bundy guy a terrorist (as if that would surprise anyone). The good news? Tens of thousands of people are coming to support the rancher. They're staging a protest.

I've talked for some time about a possible coming revolution. This is the type of event that just might trigger it. Cell phone towers are getting shut off. No more streaming video is allowed. Shit may be getting very, very real in the near future.

 

[SheriffJoe]

It's what the radical Marxists wanted all along - a shooting war.

They may yet get one.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Remember?

FEDS BUY TWO BILLION ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/17/Feds-Buy-2-Billion-Rounds-Of-Ammunition

 

[SheriffJoe]

 

[akphidelt]

What does Benghazi have to do with this? Lol. You guys are psychos!

 

[akphidelt]

And are you really talking about a coming revolution? Lmao!! You are more retarded than I ever thought.

 

[JDeuce]

What does Benghazi have to do with this? Lol. You guys are psychos!

You utterly braindead fucking retard...where the hell did I draw a direct parallel to this incident and Benghazi? Joe and I said the federal reaction to the two events speaks volumes, but not surprisingly, you're too idiotic to see the meaning of the difference.

As far as a revolution, I hope I'm wrong and that this ends peacefully. You better pray I'm wrong and should be terrified if I'm right. What the hell do you think all those Bundy supporters are doing there...working on their tans? I'm still trying to understand exactly what the fuck is going on...why the feds felt it is necessary to have this much of a presence, including snipers, over a cattle/turtle incident. Why/how they plan on seizing the Bundy cattle and selling it in California. How long they plan on staying, what their ultimate goals are, etc etc etc. You wonder why Americans want/need to own assault rifles? There you have it. If the Fed suddenly has hundreds of agents surrounding my property, I won't stand much of a chance of defending myself with a squirt gun. Again, something you just can't grasp.

Go back to hitting the bottle. It's literally the only thing you do well in life.

 

[akphidelt]

You utterly braindead fucking retard...where the hell did I draw a direct parallel to this incident and Benghazi? Joe and I said the federal reaction to the two events speaks volumes, but not surprisingly, you're too idiotic to see the meaning of the difference.

As far as a revolution, I hope I'm wrong and that this ends peacefully. You better pray I'm wrong and should be terrified if I'm right. What the hell do you think all those Bundy supporters are doing there...working on their tans? I'm still trying to understand exactly what the fuck is going on...why the feds felt it is necessary to have this much of a presence, including snipers, over a cattle/turtle incident. Why/how they plan on seizing the Bundy cattle and selling it in California. How long they plan on staying, what their ultimate goals are, etc etc etc. You wonder why Americans want/need to own assault rifles? There you have it. If the Fed suddenly has hundreds of agents surrounding my property, I won't stand much of a chance of defending myself with a squirt gun. Again, something you just can't grasp.

Go back to hitting the bottle. It's literally the only thing you do well in life.

Lmao!!! You are one of those Russ/Sheriff Joe type psychos. Really funny to see. Benghazi, revolutions, assault rifles. You need help bro. You are too young to be this crazy already. Usually it comes with age like Dave and Russ. Your life is going to continue to suck and you are going to continue being a loser. You are beyond help.

 

[SheriffJoe]

BOMBSHELL REPORT: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch...

(by Kit Daniels, Infowars.com) -- The Bureau of Land Management, whose Director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.

Corrupt Democratic Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) working with the Chinese gov’t to take land from hard-working Americans.

Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.”

“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,” the document states.

Another BLM report entitled Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone (BLM Technical Note 444) reveals that Bundy’s land in question is within the “Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area” which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for “Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States” on land “managed” by BLM.

“In 2012, the BLM and the U.S. Department of Energy published the Final Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States,” the report reads. “The Final Solar Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement assessed the impact of utility-scale solar energy development on public lands in the six southwestern states of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah.”

“The Approved Resource Management Plan Amendments/Record of Decision (ROD) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States implemented a comprehensive solar energy program for public lands in those states and incorporated land use allocations and programmatic and SEZ-specific design features into land use plans in the six-state study area.”

In 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid’s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.

And journalist Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal as well.

“[Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert,” he wrote. “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada.”

“His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.”

Although these reports are in plain view, the mainstream media has so far ignored this link.

The BLM’s official reason for encircling the Bundy family with sniper teams and helicopters was to protect the endangered desert tortoise, which the agency has previously been killing in mass due to “budget constraints.”

“A tortoise isn’t the reason why BLM is harassing a 67 year-old rancher; they want his land,” journalist Dana Loesch wrote. “The tortoise wasn’t of concern when [U.S. Senator] Harry Reid worked with BLM to literally change the boundaries of the tortoise’s habitat to accommodate the development of his top donor, Harvey Whittemore.”

“Reid is accused of using the new BLM chief as a puppet to control Nevada land (already over 84% of which is owned by the federal government) and pay back special interests,” she added. “BLM has proven that they’ve a situational concern for the desert tortoise as they’ve had no problem waiving their rules concerning wind or solar power development. Clearly these developments have vastly affected a tortoise habitat more than a century-old, quasi-homesteading grazing area.”

“If only Clive Bundy were a big Reid donor.”

 

[NFLTrends]

The Nevada State GOVERNMENT owns that land... and the Bundys have been leasing it from the government for several generations.

Even tho I hate what the government is doing there, they do have the right since it is technically "Their" land. If they chose to terminate the lease (which in the agreement, it states they can do at any time), then the Bundy's are shit out of luck.

Would it be different if the Bundys were leasing the land to the government, and decided to end the lease and kick the government out? Would all these same people come out and support the Government if they refused to leave?

The Bundys are wrong on this one (even tho I don't like it), its not their land. I think they felt that it is theirs since they have been using it for generation after generation. If the BLM decides to end the lease and use it for whatever purpose they want, then that's their right. Just as its the Bundy right to use his land for what he wants.

 

[JDeuce]

BOMBSHELL REPORT: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch....”

As I said before, I'm still trying to put all the pieces together of what the hell is happening.

The Government never bought the land...it has been owned by the Bundy family since the late 1800s (well before federal cattle taxes even existed, so whether they are even obligated to pay is up for debate). Some reports say its state-owned land, but then why are FEDERAL agents coming into the situation? Besides...it's very, very common for cattle to graze on government land.

The Government and Bundy have been going at it over this issue for the last 20 years after some stupid endangered tortoise protection law was passed. So if the slimeball Harry Reid suddenly decides he needs the land quickly, it makes sense he'd send in everything he could with guns blazing.

Otherwise, what still doesn't make sense is what the fuck the feds are doing there. Why are they setting up like they're getting ready to conduct some kind of massive raid? Have they even issued any kind of arrest/search warrants? Since when does failing to pay federal cattle tax bills result in getting a visit from this many agents? And they've already confiscated a few hundred heads of Bundy cattle (probably illegally)...why are they still there? What exactly is their end goal in all this...ie when will the job be 'complete'?

Where the hell is the Nevada governor in all this? He's supposed to be protecting his own residents.

 

[SheriffJoe]

NFLTrends,

The Bundys are paid up with the state of NV. No issues there.

It's the feds that have overstepped their boundaries. This is about an overreaching tyrannical federal government seizing land that does not belong to them.

JDeuce is right, the American Revolution was triggered by a lot less than the Marxist crap going on these days by a foreign outlaw regime that can only be described as pure evil.

 

[The Guesser]

The Nevada State GOVERNMENT owns that land... and the Bundys have been leasing it from the government for several generations.

Even tho I hate what the government is doing there, they do have the right since it is technically "Their" land. If they chose to terminate the lease (which in the agreement, it states they can do at any time), then the Bundy's are shit out of luck.

Would it be different if the Bundys were leasing the land to the government, and decided to end the lease and kick the government out? Would all these same people come out and support the Government if they refused to leave?

The Bundys are wrong on this one (even tho I don't like it), its not their land. I think they felt that it is theirs since they have been using it for generation after generation. If the BLM decides to end the lease and use it for whatever purpose they want, then that's their right. Just as its the Bundy right to use his land for what he wants.

Thanks for the common sense. In reading up on this, These people also owe somewhere between $300,000 to 1 Million in Grazing fees that have accumulated since 1993. The Deadbeats should pay up instead of trying to cause a confrontation. Disgusting how so many are trying to politicize this and stand up for deadbeats. If I owe my landlord back rental for 20 years, at some point he's not gonna be nice about it anymore, and especially when he has a court order on his side, as is the case here. Hope these deadbeats pay up, or get thrown in jail where they belong. And I hope that one of these insane, ant- gov't militia a-holes that are there strictly to agitate, doesn't get trigger happy, and start something that everyone will regret.

 

[BleedingPurple]

You utterly braindead fucking retard...where the hell did I draw a direct parallel to this incident and Benghazi? Joe and I said the federal reaction to the two events speaks volumes, but not surprisingly, you're too idiotic to see the meaning of the difference.

As far as a revolution, I hope I'm wrong and that this ends peacefully. You better pray I'm wrong and should be terrified if I'm right. What the hell do you think all those Bundy supporters are doing there...working on their tans? I'm still trying to understand exactly what the fuck is going on...why the feds felt it is necessary to have this much of a presence, including snipers, over a cattle/turtle incident. Why/how they plan on seizing the Bundy cattle and selling it in California. How long they plan on staying, what their ultimate goals are, etc etc etc. You wonder why Americans want/need to own assault rifles? There you have it. If the Fed suddenly has hundreds of agents surrounding my property, I won't stand much of a chance of defending myself with a squirt gun. Again, something you just can't grasp.

Go back to hitting the bottle. It's literally the only thing you do well in life.

Your reaction warrants medication, if the Feds "suddenly" had hundreds of Agents around your property, I would just give up, you have the same amount of chance with an assault rifle as you do a squirt gun, that is something YOU can't grasp.

The days of the US citizens bearing arms to defend itself against the government are over, I would rather the gun nuts come up with a better excuse for assault rifles than to protect itself from the government. People need to come to the realization that if they fucked with the government with assault rifles, hell I will thrown in a tank, rocket launcher, grenades and a bazooka, they LOSE, MASSACRED. I guess normal people don't feel they need a weapon to defend itself from the government because normal people know they would get slaughtered. I would rather people's rationale for assault rifles would be for protection from criminals but that's just me.

 

[NFLTrends]

Even tho the Government is within their right... I still think it sends the wrong message.

For example - Government masses the troops to throw out an American family on US land ..... Yet Illegals get paid to stay in the US, and no military force is being used to "oust" them from US government land.

kind of hypocrisy if you ask me.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Real Americans Are Ready To Snap

Thursday, 10 April 2014 06:51 Brandon Smith

Despite popular belief, every culture of every nation draws a line in the sand against government tyranny. The problem is, many draw this line so close to total defeat that it rarely matters. For the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto, for instance, it wasn't until the Germans had already herded millions onto railroad cars destined for death camps and cornered the rest into dilapidated central housing that the ZOB resistance was formed, only to be wiped out a month later.

Perhaps hindsight is 20/20, but clearly too many freedom movements throughout history waited too long to respond to the trespasses of oligarchs.

The Founding Fathers frequently struggled with the proper measure of resistance. Many colonials wanted vengeance on the British after the Boston Massacre in March of 1770, but patriots knew that the timing was not right. The battle to rally citizens to the cause and to educate the masses as much as possible on the facts took precedence over the desire to enter conflict. The Founders endured five more years of British government criminality until nearly 80 farmers and militiamen stood outnumbered on Lexington Green on April 19[SUP]th[/SUP], 1775 to confront an army of 700 British regulars on a mission to capture rebel leaders and destroy weapons caches. No one knew at the time that the war would be sparked that day, but everyone knew that a fight was inevitable and near.

I believe the same feeling hangs in the air of modern America for REAL Americans, and by “real”, I mean those who actually support and defend the constitutional values and principles that lay at the foundation of our society. We sense that something is coming; a great change, or an unstoppable reckoning.

The question of when to strike back is pivotal to any resistance movement. Turn to violence too soon or without proper cause in the eyes of the public, and the rebellion may lose the moral high ground and the support of the populace. Wait too long, and the totalitarian hordes may be too far entrenched, forcing the rebellion to fight from a position of strategic weakness.

There are those who might argue that America crossed the “red line” long ago and now our society is simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while arguing over futile semantics. In certain respects, I can see their point. The U.S. political system is utterly lost. Anyone who still has faith in the Left/Right paradigm after two terms of George W. Bush and nearly two terms of Barack Obama is either insane, or mentally challenged. It should be obvious to Republicans and Democrats alike that our government does NOT represent the average man, and our election process is a sham. Democrats in particular should be equally furious and ashamed as the candidate they blindly worshiped to the point of cultism has now forsaken every value they thought he represented.

The legal apparatus of the U.S. is also beyond repair. Those in the mainstream who argue that grievances with government should be addressed by the courts instead of independent action obviously have not considered that the courts continuously uphold and defend legislation like that contained within the NDAA, which allows for rendition, torture, and even assassination of American citizens without trial or due process. And where are the prosecutions of Constitutional violations by the NSA? Why aren't men like James Clapper in prison for lying directly to Congress. Why hasn't Eric Holder been slapped in irons for his involvement with “Fast and Furious”? And what about the international financiers who back these politicians? How many of them have been prosecuted for their involvement in the toxic derivatives scandals that are destroying our economy to this day?

No, we lost the courts a long time ago. They will do nothing to save this country. But is the fight already over? I think not.

Nihilism is tempting for those people who are lazy and frightened and looking for a philosophical excuse to run away from making a stand. Claiming the fight is lost before it has truly begun is a longstanding tradition amongst millions upon millions of cowards through history. Every freedom fighter in every great revolution for liberty has heard the same arguments that we hear today – “It's too late to change things. The enemy is too powerful and you will be crushed.

The nail that sticks up will eventually be hammered down. Your movement is a minority on the fringe and no one will support you. None of you have the guts to really follow through...”

While there is certainly much to despair in the state of our nation, I find the notion that Americans will do nothing in response misplaced and ignorant. From what I have observed, it is not a question of “if” citizens snap, but when.

With objective eyes one could easily see it during the last attempts by the federal government to pass anti-gun legislation that would have led to confiscation.

Pro-2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment protests erupted all over the country (though the MSM mostly ignored them) with participants far outnumbering the miniscule groups in support of gun control. The sentiment amongst millions of gun owners and millions of Liberty Movement proponents was that we were not going to allow government enforcement of new gun laws. Period. If that meant we had to start using those same guns to put an end to government, then that was exactly what we would do. The feds, of course, buckled.

Rather than take the more dangerous and unifying direct route of federal legislation, gun grabbers have shifted strategies, isolating and targeting specific states they believe will be more pliable and easier to conquer. Connecticut and parts of New York, however, have shown that even people in the most socialist of states have no intention of complying with gun registration or confiscation. In Connecticut, only 38,000 high capacity magazines were registered according to the new gun laws, while approximately 2.4 million purchased through retail remain unaccounted for. Only 50,000 “assault weapons” were registered, while at least 300,000 remain unaccounted for. A sizable number of police are also refusing to enforce registration measures (some out of constitutional loyalty, and some out of a desire for self preservation), causing the state of Connecticut to back off of its hard line rhetoric.

I can say with full confidence that the conditions within Connecticut alone would lead to an open shooting war if officials actually attempt to enforce registration and confiscation. If Safe Act-style legislation or executive orders are ever enforced at a national level, I have no doubt revolution would follow.

The latest hotbed I have witnessed is the Bureau of Land Management attack on a cattle farm in Clark County, Nevada owned by Cliven Bundy. The BLM has so far stolen over 500 cattle from Bundy on the grounds that the federal government owns the land his family has been using for grazing pasture for generations. The confiscation was implemented under the auspices of “protection for endangered species”. The species in this instance being a desert tortoise.

The methods used by the BLM resemble a militant raid, with hundreds of agents, helicopters, and even snipers at their disposal. Adding insult to injury and making the issue a national concern, the feds have also staged “First Amendment Zones” miles away from their activities to keep protestors out.

This may seem like a minor event, a tiff over cattle grazing or possibly property rights, but there is much more going on here.

Tyranny leaves lasting scars, and each tyrannical act results in an accumulation of wounds on the public psyche that do not heal. In the end, a single event can become a trigger to unleash a torrent of rage pent up in a population for years or decades. The fight for Cliven Bundy's farm has the potential to become such a trigger.

So far, federal abuses have been primarily toward Bundy's cattle, with confiscation ongoing and suspicions that a number of the cows are being killed. Here, protestors try to stop a truck from leaving the area which they believed might be carrying dead animals. Agents respond with dogs and tasers.

However, I believe that if this situation escalates into a Waco or Ruby Ridge brand of event, not only Liberty Movement residents of Nevada, but Liberty Movement champions across the nation will indeed finally throw down the gauntlet. What does that mean? It means they are going to start shooting. Opposing groups can debate whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, but the reality is that one way or another, it is going to happen.

Discussions within the movement are far from apathetic. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of eyes are watching every move of the BLM right now, and they should be taking this fact very seriously.

The naysayers will claim that we don't have the will to take action. They are welcome to think whatever they like. But mark my words, Constitutionally minded Americans are not going to stand by and watch another massacre, nor a loss of gun rights, nor will we be entertaining violations of our freedoms for much longer. This society is on the edge of something. It's kinetic, or electric. It is not yet quite visible but it is there, reverberating in the atmosphere. My suggestion to our federal bureaucracy would be to do what they did during the gun debate, and quickly back away.

Of course, we all know they won't.

Do the elites want to stir up insurgency in order to give pretense for a larger crackdown? They very well might. But it is transparent in the way they try to mitigate dissent and offer placation that they do not want a rebellion larger than they can manage. I think it is far too late for that. I think they've pissed off too many people, instead of just enough people. I think that though most pretend-Americans will do nothing but watch in horror or hide in their hovels, the size of resistance to the tides of despotism is growing far beyond common realizations. And, when this resistance erupts, it will shock even those who fully expect it.

You can contact Brandon Smith at: brandon@alt-market.com

 

[SheriffJoe]

The legacy of "Obama" - an illegal "president" who started a civil war! hno:

 

[SheriffJoe]

HEAVILY-ARMED FEDS SURROUND NEVADA RANCH...
FAA Orders No Fly Zone...
Cell Towers Shut Down?
County Commissioner Says Bundy Supporters 'Better Have Funeral Plans'...
Lawmaker: Cattle Roundup 'Reminded Me Of Tiananmen Square'...
Militia Members Arrive: We're not 'afraid to shoot'...
Supporters gather outside LVPD headquarters...
Rangers Brought in From Out of State...
Charlie Daniels: First test of military against citizens?
Feds Refuse to Say If They've Euthanized Cattle...
BREAK: Sen. Reid/Chinese gov't takeover of ranch for solar farm?

 

[akphidelt]

Your reaction warrants medication, if the Feds "suddenly" had hundreds of Agents around your property, I would just give up, you have the same amount of chance with an assault rifle as you do a squirt gun, that is something YOU can't grasp.

The days of the US citizens bearing arms to defend itself against the government are over, I would rather the gun nuts come up with a better excuse for assault rifles than to protect itself from the government. People need to come to the realization that if they fucked with the government with assault rifles, hell I will thrown in a tank, rocket launcher, grenades and a bazooka, they LOSE, MASSACRED. I guess normal people don't feel they need a weapon to defend itself from the government because normal people know they would get slaughtered. I would rather people's rationale for assault rifles would be for protection from criminals but that's just me.

These people like Sheriff Joe and JDouche are insane. They act like the govt is scared of them because they have guns, lol. The only thing the govt is afraid of is massacring them and the negative publicity it would cause.

 

[SheriffJoe]

These people like Sheriff Joe and JDouche are insane. They act like the govt is scared of them because they have guns, lol. The only thing the govt is afraid of is massacring them and the negative publicity it would cause.

Dream on.

If your foreign "epitome of perfection" man crush is stupid enough to act violently against US citizens, it won't be pretty.

Yes, the government can easily out muscle one rancher. But not millions of armed citizens who have had enough. No chance in hell.

Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto put it best during WW II: "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be rifle behind each blade of grass."

Think Iraq was ugly?

Thank GOD for the 2nd Amendment - this tyrannical government is EXACTLY why the Founding Fathers gave their citizens the right to bear arms.

Are Obama, Harry Reid and this out of control federal oligarchy THIS stupid?

We shall see...